tozzin Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 Curiouser and curiouser! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmund Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 How about - the floor plate for mounting a flat section bollard (fits into the long cutout with securing screw in the middle). Would make sense in terms of being in the middle of the jennel - cyclist deterrent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tozzin Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Coal chute cover? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmund Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Coal chute cover? Sounds promising - link to a Coal Ole Spotters photos here: Coal Hole Covers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tozzin Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 There wouldn't be a bollard in the middle of the entrance to the old fiirm on Sidney St, it would hamper carts and such going in and out and I can't see a bollard being put in the middle of a " Jennel". Is there a bollard at the entrance of the walk? That's where it would work not halfway down. Quite a few cellars have cellar grates tethered from inside by means of a chain with a bar on the surface, maybe fitting where the slot is on these particular covers. As you say the cover is a distance from the properties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin72 Posted February 24, 2015 Author Share Posted February 24, 2015 I have taken a few pics around Abbeydale Road and I have seen this feature before but I didn't really think it was interesting until now - as has been said, it appears to be something new! There is always something interesting around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saw119 Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Do you know about the Sheffield Local Board cover that is on Redmires Road just before Allen Sike Farm at the entrance to the footpath there? I only ask as it raises some serious questions in my mind about whether these features are in situ. I find it almost impossible to conclude an early date for these covers if one is positioned so far away from what we could legitimately claim was the Sheffield Local Board area and I certainly find it hard to believe that the Local Board would have been digging drains out on Redmires Road in the early Victorian period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin72 Posted February 24, 2015 Author Share Posted February 24, 2015 Thanks for the pointer saw119 - I don't know the area or feature. You raise an interesting point about things being 'in situ'. Just about everything of interest found so far in the City has been somewhere it COULD have been originally placed. The several Local Board covers in Palm Street, Walkley, for example match closely the date of the Board and the construction of the street. What is needed is to find features that could NOT be originally sited (as in your suggestion), and then we would know that re-location has happened. The only place that I have seen dates that definitely pre-date the road is on Prince of Wales Road which has many 1900 and 1901 covers and drains. I would think they came from street demolition elsewhere in the area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southside Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 sewer map from 1883 http://www.picturesheffield.com/maps.php?file=034 Regards Southside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saw119 Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 Was just going to post that myself southside. I really wish it was a little bigger though. It appears as though the sewer line finishes at Crosspool on this map which makes the drain cover on Redmires Road an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmund Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 From Wikipedia: "Water provision for the growing city of Sheffield was taken over from the private sector by the Water Committee of Sheffield Corporation in 1830. The Rivelin Dams were part of a series of reservoirs subsequently built to the west of the city by the Committee with the Lower being completed in 1845 and the Upper in 1848." Drainage from the area would go into the Allen Sike and potentially into the reservoirs. Possibly the grates were installed at the time the dams were constructed or soon after? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saw119 Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 I think that is a very good suggestion Edmund and could well explain the presence of a Local Board cover out there. It would also provide a very good date for the Local Board covers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin72 Posted February 25, 2015 Author Share Posted February 25, 2015 I think that is a very good suggestion Edmund and could well explain the presence of a Local Board cover out there. It would also provide a very good date for the Local Board covers. 1845-1848 is bang in the period that the Local Board installations were taking place in other parts of the City. Excellent stuff ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmund Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 Hi saw119 Here's a map of showing Allen Sike in 1855, and a man made (ie bang straight) drainage channel approaching the sike from the south. Where were the grates in relation to that? Possibly placed to empty surface water from the road into the sike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmund Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 Hi saw119, If you're out and about a deal in the area, maybe this archaeological survey of would be of some benefit for you? (very detailed, but doesn't throw any light on the drainage questions): Fox Hagg Archaeological Survey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saw119 Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 The Local Board cover is positioned at the entrance to the footpath that borders the Allen Sike spring. I'd say that's close enough to the drainage ditch marked on the map.I'd recommend that you visit it Calvin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hilldweller Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Hi saw119 Here's a map of showing Allen Sike in 1855, and a man made (ie bang straight) drainage channel approaching the sike from the south. Where were the grates in relation to that? Possibly placed to empty surface water from the road into the sike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin72 Posted March 16, 2015 Author Share Posted March 16, 2015 Recent walking around the Rivelin Valley area has produced two very rare beasts indeed; On Rivelin Terrace, off Rivelin Road, a Sheffield Corporation 1890, and a little further up the hill on Linaker Road, a whole street of Sheffield Corporation 1891's. These are interesting as they are on the pavement / grass verge, so I wonder if the street has been narrowed, or the property boundaries altered at some point. Both of these examples have only been found in one or two places before, and 1890 remains the earliest dated drain cover on our streets. ">"> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin72 Posted March 19, 2015 Author Share Posted March 19, 2015 Charles Ross of Heeley already features in this thread and his"> work can be seen all over Heeley, Abbeydale and Ecclesall in particular. I recently saw a couple of his coal chute covers with name legible in the 'Lakes' area off Abbeydale Road. There are thousands of these covers about, but I have only seen a handful with the name remaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin72 Posted March 24, 2015 Author Share Posted March 24, 2015 Just behind 'Champs' sports bar on Loxley New Road a new 'Sheffield Local Board' ! The question is, as ever, does the date of the development of the area match the mid-19th century date of the Local Board's activities? "> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin72 Posted March 30, 2015 Author Share Posted March 30, 2015 On Loxley Road ... W.R.D.C ... ? West Riding District Council? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madannie77 Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 On Loxley Road ... W.R.D.C ... ? West Riding District Council? "> Wortley Rural DIstrict Council? Loxley was part of Wortley RDC until 1974 http://www.visionofbritain.org.uk/unit/10042483/boundary (zoomable map) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin72 Posted April 3, 2015 Author Share Posted April 3, 2015 Dawes (Plumber), Hillsborough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveHB Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 Dawes (Plumber), Hillsborough "> 1925 directory. Dawes George William, plumber 147, & house 149,Holme lane, Hillsbro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveHB Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 1925 directory. Dawes George William, plumber 147, & house 149,Holme lane, Hillsbro. Dawes George William, plumber, 108 Holme lane, Hillsborough (1905).Dawes George William, plumber, 147 Holme lane, Hillsborough (1911). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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