Joseph Moran Sheffield

[Oscar]

wondering if anybody has a

Joseph Moran brn c1886 in their family tree

Joseph married a Lily Emmett in 1911

Joseph's father is listed as John Moran(Blacksmith)on the marriage certificate

3 Sorby street Sheffield Yorkshire is where he was living at the time of marriage

Their children

Joseph bn c 1912

James bn c1915

Lily born c1919

and Francis bn c1922

all born Sheffield

when Joseph died in 1932 he was living at 69 Bramber St.

and is buried in the Catholic Section of Burngreave Cemetery

I do have details of a Moran family in the 1891/1901 census

but not certain it's my Joseph

Sylvia

[RichardB]

For your consideration

Court 2 House 3 Smithfield on the 1901 Census

Michael Henry 63 Father in Law (widower)

Owen Kavney 7

Catherine Moran 43 Wife born Ireland

James Moran 16 Son Rolling Mill Labourer

John Moran 19 Nephew Railway Labourer

Joseph Moran 14 Son Errand Boy

Peter Moran 23 Son Blacksmiths Striker

Thomas Moran 42 Head Blacksmith born Leeds

[Guest Hennypenny]

wondering if anybody has a

Joseph Moran brn c1886 in their family tree

Joseph married a Lily Emmett in 1911

Joseph's father is listed as John Moran(Blacksmith)on the marriage certificate

3 Sorby street Sheffield Yorkshire is where he was living at the time of marriage

Their children

Joseph bn c 1912

James bn c1915

Lily born c1919

and Francis bn c1922

all born Sheffield

when Joseph died in 1932 he was living at 69 Bramber St.

and is buried in the Catholic Section of Burngreave Cemetery

I do have details of a Moran family in the 1891/1901 census

but not certain it's my Joseph

Sylvia

Hi Sylvia

I have had a look on the 1891 and 1901 and there is one family (John and Catherine Moran, Sheffield) that stands out as being the right one for the details given. I can see that the father changes his name between censuses, which could be confusing, but as his place of birth, wife, children, age and occupation stay the same, I think it would be reasonable to assume it is the same person. To check you would need to obtain Joseph's birth certificate to find his mother's maiden name, which would hopefully be HENRY to fit in with the father-in-law present on the 1901 census.

Janet

[Oscar]

Thanks RichardB and Janet

yes it is the change of the Head's name from

John to Thomas that's confusing

I really am glad you both came up with the same

family as i did, now i'm more than certain it's them

thankyou

Sylvia

[RichardB]

Hi Sylvia

I have had a look on the 1891 and 1901 and there is one family (John and Catherine Moran, Sheffield) that stands out as being the right one for the details given. I can see that the father changes his name between censuses, which could be confusing, but as his place of birth, wife, children, age and occupation stay the same, I think it would be reasonable to assume it is the same person. To check you would need to obtain Joseph's birth certificate to find his mother's maiden name, which would hopefully be HENRY to fit in with the father-in-law present on the 1901 census.

Janet

From my posting; the Father in Law in the 1901 Census has a surname of Henry ....

[Oscar]

Hi

Yes

John Moran married Catherine Henry in Sheffield 1877

What's more confusing, in the 1881 census John and Catherine along with

Son's Peter, John and Daughter Agnes are living in Norton Derby

but also in 1881 There is Michael Henry living with his own family

and 2 grandson's Peter and John Moran in Pinfold St.

What i am trying to find out is if the John Moran listed as Nephew in the 1901

census is in fact their son,because they did have a son called John bn 1879

Because my Grandad John Moran was supposedly a orphan who was brought up with

Joseph Moran and his family.

thankyou

Sylvia