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We already knew about Thomas Amory (will I did) : Major Thomas Amory, Barrack Master, Farfield House (White's 1833) but additional to that

March 9th 1830 - John Barry, formerly of Boyne-hill, near Navan, East Meath in Ireland, and late residing with Major Amory, at Farfield House, near Sheffield, gentleman.

So there !

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One last appeal to find information to allow us to fill in the gaps. Census images appreciated, even though it may not add much. Newspaper acticles, marriages and death dates for any of the people listed; maps etc etc.

Shakespeare

146 - 148 Gibraltar Street

Open 1818 Closed early 2010 Span 192 years

On 7th August 1863 the licence for the Shakespeare was transferred from Isaac Rubbins to Thomas Drabble. After leaving the Shakespeare, Rubbins continued to run his carriage/omnibus/funeral business, auctioning off his horses, omnibuses and carriages in September 1865, before dying aged 58 on 26th October 1865 (Sheffield Local Register).

Drabble soon had a mess to clear up in his new pub - he made an insurance claim (ref 194) for Flood damage - £48 2s was claimed and the assessors granted £40 in June 1865. He was still at the Shakespeare in March 1875 when there was vandalism in several pubs including the Shakespeare - two youths slashed the horse hair seating in the best room.

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Great update, Thank you very much. Editied this information into my original entry.

On 7th August 1863 the licence for the Shakespeare was transferred from Isaac Rubbins to Thomas Drabble. After leaving the Shakespeare, Rubbins continued to run his carriage/omnibus/funeral business, auctioning off his horses, omnibuses and carriages in September 1865, before dying aged 58 on 26th October 1865 (Sheffield Local Register).

Drabble soon had a mess to clear up in his new pub - he made an insurance claim (ref 194) for Flood damage - £48 2s was claimed and the assessors granted £40 in June 1865. He was still at the Shakespeare in March 1875 when there was vandalism in several pubs including the Shakespeare - two youths slashed the horse hair seating in the best room.

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A (large) correction to Son of Pub Updates (post no #91) Porter Cottage and the Index. See the 1853 map showing the public house on the Lescar site being called the Porter Tavern.

Ralph Swift and the Dungworths were actually at the Porter Tavern, which later became the Lescar Hotel, NOT the Porter Cottage

2nd February 1859 Sarah the widow of William Dungworth , late of the Lescar Hotel, died aged 72

An inquest held in July 1859 made it clear that Colbeck's beer-house was a separate premises (ie the Porter Cottage)

In 1878 J Mettam held a concert in aid of distressed brothers of the Rose of the Vale Lodge of the Oddfellows - this Oddfellows lodge had been based at the Porter Tavern.

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I'm pleased its you and Ukelele Lady untangling this lot !

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Three Travellers Inn, Snig Hill update :

Open in 1774 (Sketchley Directory; premises listed, no publican shown), betters the previous date.

1869 J. Cundy (PictureSheffield link from Steve)

1891 Henry G. Lee, 84 Snig Hill (UKL lists)

We should be able to locate this in 1901 census. "We" being anyone that isn't me ... !

Edited by SteveHB

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For the consideration of Ukelele Lady :

1774 Jonathan Wilde, springknife cutler and Publican, Broad Lane.

Not a MASSIVE amount of information until we consider :

John Wilde, Victualler, Ratten Row, 1787

and Brown Cow/Little Castle, 1 Broad Lane, Mark Wild (1822-23), Mary Wilde (1825-1829) and this remarkable address in 1843 :

junction of Tenter St, West Bar Green, Broad Lane End and Ratten Row.

Over to you Bigears.

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Hold your fire Mr. B, its "Harrow" which confuses me somewhat, Broad Street, Park - Broad Lane near Tenter Street ... surely (Don't call me Shirley etc etc).

Yours

Confuzzled

Epping.

For the consideration of Ukelele Lady :

1774 Jonathan Wilde, springknife cutler and Publican, Broad Lane.

Not a MASSIVE amount of information until we consider :

John Wilde, Victualler, Ratten Row, 1787

and Brown Cow/Little Castle, 1 Broad Lane, Mark Wild (1822-23), Mary Wilde (1825-1829) and this remarkable address in 1843 :

junction of Tenter St, West Bar Green, Broad Lane End and Ratten Row.

Over to you Bigears.

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Crosspool Tavern much updated on A-Z.

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Three Travellers Inn, Snig Hill update :

Open in 1774 (Sketchley Directory; premises listed, no publican shown), betters the previous date.

1869 J. Cundy (PictureSheffield link from Steve)

1891 Henry G. Lee, 84 Snig Hill (UKL lists)

We should be able to locate this in 1901 census. "We" being anyone that isn't me ... !

Three Travellers Hotel 82 Newhall Street. Albert H LEGH in 1901 (census)

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Lee May, son of the present landlady, gave me these pictures for the site.

The date of 1925, in the attached text file, conflicts with what we already have.

Bell docs.txt

Members of the Bell family in a cabbage patch - Crookes

Members of the Bell family in a cabbage patch - Crookes

Princess Royal - C1900

Wedding of Lily Ada Armin and Arthur Bell - 1895

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Myrtle Inn - Myrtle Hotel, 33 Alexandra Road, Heeley, S2.

http://www.sheffieldhistory.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic/3530-pubs-f-to-m-keepers-picture-links/page-14?p=18569#entry18569

John Eaton, beerhouse. White's 1879.
Walter Berridge, beerhouse. White's 1901.
James Taylor, beerhouse. White's 1905 & 1911.
James Taylor, beerhouse. Kelly's 1925.

A Dungworth, 33 Alexandra Road, Heeley. 1888. http://www.sheffieldhistory.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic/3616-beerhouses/page-14#entry120134

Walter Berridge 33 Alexandra Road, Heeley Beerhouse 1895. http://www.sheffieldhistory.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic/9698-1895-pubs-and-beerhouses-ongoing/#entry116633

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A-Z updated

Edited by SteveHB

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Prospect View Hotel, 500 Gleadless Road, Heeley.

http://www.sheffieldhistory.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic/3531-pubs-n-to-s-keepers-picture-links/page-9?p=18707#entry18707

Oldfield Henry, beerhouse, White's 1905.
Oldfield Henry, beerhouse, White's 1911.
Oldfield Henry, beerhouse, Kelly's 1925.

Also a possibility it dates back to 1869 ....

published: September 18, 1869

A-Z updated.

Edited by SteveHB

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Lee May, son of the present landlady, gave me these pictures for the site.

The date of 1925, in the attached text file, conflicts with what we already have.

attachicon.gifBell docs.txt

A little more on the Princess Royal, Slinn Street:

September 1869 Brewster Sessions - Thomas Barber was granted a wine and spirits licence

1891 Census - William Armin (publican), wife Louise and daughter Lily A - at 75 Slinn Street (see below)

September 1894 Brewster Sessions - William Armin applied for a renewal of his wines and spirits licence. He had been fined 7s on the 7th June and 20s on 12th December 1889 for serving after hours. Armin had been in the house for eight years. He was granted the renewal because the last prosecution had been the result of a discrepancy between the Town Hall clock and Walkley Church clock.

2nd December 1970 - death of Stanley Lawton, licensed victualler, Princess Royal, Slinn Street.

Here is a Google view of 79 Slinn Street, corner of Mona Road - do we think this was the original pub shown in the old photos? (subject to alterations and street numbering changes)

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Good work Edmund, I was pretty sure that the photos that I posted are of the present building, ie. on the corner with Bates Street.

However, looking at both of the present day buildings, neither of them match up with the older building in the photos. The chimney on the front being a good example of the differences. Then there's the arch over the doorway which, on the old picture, is made up of curved stone, whilst the present day pub has an arch made of small stones. There are lots of differences that I've only noticed since you pointed out the possibility.

I think "can of worms" is an appropriate phrase at this point in time. lol

Lee did tell me that the landlord (Bell) probably lived off the premisses at one time. (on Bates Street I think)

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Springfield Tavern Broomspring Lane

1911 Joseph Herbert Lownds (Beerhouse)

1919 Joseph Herbert Lownds (Beerhouse)

1925 Mrs Sarah Jane Lownds (Beerhouse)

A-Z updated

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Thomas Bunting, late of the Yellow Lion Hotel, Haymarket, died 10th May 1899.

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The following is to link three public house buildings on the same site – The Rein Deer Tavern, The Albion Hotel and the Royal Hotel – all on what became Haymarket, the corner of Waingate and Castle Folds.

Prior to Sept 27th 1779 a Mr Barlow had been running a smithy and public house ,which may or may not have been named the Rein Deer, on the corner of Waingate and Castle Folds. Godfrey Fox bought the land and rebuilt the public house as the Rein Deer Tavern.

Godfrey Fox was still running the Rein Deer in 1781 but later ran into difficulties and took the job of “gaoler and liberty bailiff” of the Pudding lane debtors’ gaol.

By 1828 the Rein Deer had become the Albion Hotel -there was a report of a robbery at the Albion Hotel in December 1828, and Blackwell’s directory of that year reported the Albion, Haymarket as being run by W. Travis. The Duke of Norfolk Sick Society festival was held at Mr Travis’ Albion Hotel, Haymarket in July 1829. (This was probably William Travis junior, son of the Wm Travis who ran the Queens Head in Castle Street)

November 1830 the coach fro Gainsborough left from Mr Travis’ Albion Hotel

Whites 1833 directory shows Wm. Travis at the Albion Hotel.

In November 1834 an advert was printed in the Independent stating that Richard Sorsby had taken over the Albion Hotel, Haymarket, possibly running the public house side of the business whilst Travis concentrated on the transport.

In 1837 Travis was in Whites directory as a coach proprietor (and lime burner) based at the Albion Hotel office. In January he placed an advert in the Independent stating that he had been running his coach business to Manchester from the Albion for 5 years (ie since 1832) in the face of an anti-competitive cartel, the Company of Coach Proprietors. In May 1837 Travis was prosecuted (12 cases) by “Benson the informer” for not having painted the proprietor’s name or number of persons allowed to be carried, on his coaches to Manchester and Salford.

In April 1838 Richard Sorsby was auctioning wines and spirits for the benefit of his creditors at the Albion Hotel, the bankruptcy notice was printed in May 1838.

In July 1838 William Travis advertised that he has opened the Royal Hotel (late Albion Hotel) – perhaps a name change due to Victoria's accession and taking back of the alcohol licence following Sorsby’s failure?

November 1847 – John Thompson (bankrupt ex landlord of the White Lion, Barkerpool) was put in as manager by Royds Brewery, and lasted til his financial status came to light in February 1848.

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Sportsman's Rest / Inn

45 Park Hill Lane

Directory listings.....

Marsden James, beerhouse. 1879

Sheppard Joe, beerhouse. 1901

Sheppard Joe, beerhouse. 1905

Potts Arthur, beerhouse. 1911

Wilson Henry, beerhouse. 1925

"1914 plan - Ind Coope & Co" on ebay

A-Z updated.

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Can we add to this ......?

Mason's Arms, 14 Capel Street, S6.  (known locally as The Capel, recently demolished).

"1936 to 1939 Albert Carr

1942 Albert Carr

1944 Albert Carr [ beer retailer only ]

1948 Albert Carr

1951 Frank Hinchcliffe"

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Here is what I found.

From the directories, all at #14 Capel Street.

Steward William, beerhouse. 1879
Holbery Thomas, beerhouse. 1901
Holbery  William, beerhouse. 1905 & 1911
Makin Harry, beerhouse. 1925

Application for wines & beer licence granted, September 18, 1869.

5573270893dd2_September_18_1869_Masons.t

*Steward or Stewart?

Edited by SteveHB

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Photo thanks to Steph Woods at the New Barrack Tavern

Masons.jpg

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8th June 1869 - Death of Mr Henry Steeel of the Merry Heart, aged 57.

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30th May 1860 - Decease of Mrs Sarah Woodhead, landlady of the King's Head for 36 years.  (William showing in early trade directories) Sarah still listed in 1861 but to be expected as directories prepared/printed ahead of time.

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Bankrupt, William Marples, Sheffield, Licensed Victualler, October 22nd 1873.

(Doesn't state but odds on this is the Cup, 52 Button Lane)

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