Guest clivenicholson Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Tricky one this. What year do you think this is from? Only ever seen this picture at auction and in an early publication. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest clivenicholson Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 top marks if you can name all the players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Does it say "Moor" on the ball ? Need HD's x-ray eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 I'm not a football fan, so, I'd start by identifying the ground from the shapes/structures - from a football fan's point of view - I'd identify the span that style of kit was in use. Tricky one this. What year do you think this is from? Only ever seen this picture at auction and in an early publication. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 try TheWednesdayPlayerswithMoustaches.com .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Early publication = Romance of the Wednesday ?? Never seen a copy, would love to get a scnned copy on here - keep trying to buy it - keep failing through lack of funds and being a small rodent that lives in a place of religious worship .... Tricky one this. What year do you think this is from? Only ever seen this picture at auction and in an early publication. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunsbyowl1867 Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Not seen that before - the stand at the back is the Olive Grove stand which was demolished at Hillsborough in 1913 so it is pre that date. The chap in the middle of the back row who looks like Lord Lucan looks like Ambrose Langley and he left Wednesday in 1905. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest clivenicholson Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Early publication = Romance of the Wednesday ?? Never seen a copy, would love to get a scnned copy on here - keep trying to buy it - keep failing through lack of funds and being a small rodent that lives in a place of religious worship .... Why don't you go for the re-print version which you should be able to find on abebooks.com The publication I'm refering to is much earlier than Romance of the Wednesday. It was not a book, more a 30 page booklet about Sheffield Wednesday and Sheffield United, This was the Wednesday team that was contempoary with the publication. I can narrow the photograph down to one of three matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest clivenicholson Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Not seen that before - the stand at the back is the Olive Grove stand which was demolished at Hillsborough in 1913 so it is pre that date. The chap in the middle of the back row who looks like Lord Lucan looks like Ambrose Langley and he left Wednesday in 1905. Correct with Ambrose Langley and the Olive Grove stand, this was taken at Olive Grove. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Re-print = copyright issues, need an original/ Fine photo, fine question - just not an area of expertise for me. Why don't you go for the re-print version which you should be able to find on abebooks.com The publication I'm refering to is much earlier than Romance of the Wednesday. It was not a book, more a 30 page booklet about Sheffield Wednesday and Sheffield United, This was the Wednesday team that was contempoary with the publication. I can narrow the photograph down to one of three matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest clivenicholson Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 It's 1898-1899 season. Last season at Olive Grove and the season Wednesday got relegated. Likely to be v Nottigham Forest 1st match of the season, but could also be Notts County or WBA I think (this is from memory) Couple of players that I've never previously seen in a team photogrtaph - Dryborough and Hemmingfield. The Publication was by Boots Chemist that season and is currently worth around £200 - £250, although I think I saw an original copy of this photograph sell at auction for £80ish. One myth about victorian football pitches was that they were heavy and grass was poor. Victorian pitches were much better quality and you can see this a little in this picture. I have a photograph of Olive Grove at the end of this season and you can see that the pitch is in superb condition. Pitches did become poor sometime in the Edwardian times I believe, but I'm not an expert in that area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunsbyowl1867 Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 HI Clive - this was as far as I got by looking at other photos before you posted the names! I Wednesday Photo Back Row 1 J Davis 2 R Ferrier 3 Thomas Crawshaw 4 Jimmy Massey 5 Jack Earp 6 Ambrose Langley 7 F Spiksley 8 9 Front Row 1 2 H Davis 3 4 W E Hemingfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 1898-99 It's 1898-1899 season. Last season at Olive Grove and the season Wednesday got relegated. Likely to be v Nottigham Forest 1st match of the season, but could also be Notts County or WBA I think (this is from memory) Couple of players that I've never previously seen in a team photogrtaph - Dryborough and Hemmingfield. The Publication was by Boots Chemist that season and is currently worth around £200 - £250, although I think I saw an original copy of this photograph sell at auction for £80ish. One myth about victorian football pitches was that they were heavy and grass was poor. Victorian pitches were much better quality and you can see this a little in this picture. I have a photograph of Olive Grove at the end of this season and you can see that the pitch is in superb condition. Pitches did become poor sometime in the Edwardian times I believe, but I'm not an expert in that area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest clivenicholson Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 sorry to have spoilt that for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest clivenicholson Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 One of the many illustrations I have in my collection. I have a lot on the 1896 FA Cup Final plus photographs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunsbyowl1867 Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 sorry to have spoilt that for you. Don't be daft - I couldn't get any further although there must be a photo of Hemingfield in another book but I can't remember which one.! Great photo many thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunsbyowl1867 Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 One of the many illustrations I have in my collection. I have a lot on the 1896 FA Cup Final plus photographs. That's a laugh ! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest clivenicholson Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 That's a laugh ! What's a laugh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunsbyowl1867 Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 What's a laugh? The Wednesday's discarded old nickname! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest clivenicholson Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 Oh, yeah. Sorry I don't really think about that as I'm not a Wednesday supporter and to me Wedneday of the 1890's were always the Blades so I never give it a second thought. Where as it sticks out loads to an Owl's supporter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 http://digitalgallery.nypl.org/nypldigital/dgkeysearchdetail.cfm?trg=1&strucID=231221&imageID=460271&total=50&num=0&parent_id=113570&word=&s=¬word=&d=&c=&f=&k=0&sScope=&sLevel=&sLabel=&lword=&lfield=&sort=&imgs=20&pos=14&snum=&e=w http://digitalgallery.nypl.org/nypldigital/dgkeysearchdetail.cfm?trg=1&strucID=231227&imageID=460431&total=50&num=0&parent_id=113570&word=&s=¬word=&d=&c=&f=&k=0&sScope=&sLevel=&sLabel=&lword=&lfield=&sort=&imgs=20&pos=17&snum=&e=w&cdonum=0 One of the many illustrations I have in my collection. I have a lot on the 1896 FA Cup Final plus photographs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 Maybe the 1896 Final deserves a topic of its own ... ? One of the many illustrations I have in my collection. I have a lot on the 1896 FA Cup Final plus photographs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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