Guest gafferflint Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 Hi,New member posting! Can anyone tell me anything about this building which stands at the corner of Bents Rd and Broad Lane? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 Hello and Welcome to the site Gafferflint. Any idea of how old the place is please ? Polite request for a map please from the map-people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveHB Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 ? 1905 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gafferflint Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 Its the building on the map at the corner of Broad Oaks and Bents Rd. It seems that at some point, the building marked as the mission was Broad Oak School. I wondered if The Old School House was the predecessor of that school. Whilst in the area, where does the name Hill Turrets come from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 Thanks Steve, I'm still lost mind you ? 1905 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveHB Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 Looks like Broad Oak became Broad Elms Lane as it is named today.. 1925 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveHB Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 Its the building on the map at the corner of Broad Oaks and Bents Rd.It seems that at some point, the building marked as the mission was Broad Oak School. I wondered if The Old School House was the predecessor of that school. Whilst in the area, where does the name Hill Turrets come from? Could well be. 1850's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 Frederick John Kibble, Teacher at Central Higher Board School, Broad Oak, Bent's Green Kelly's 1893 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 Ann Hardy, School, Broad Oak, Bent's Green White's 1849 William Shirley, School, Broad Oak, Bent's Green White's 1849 ------------------------ Still lost ! Bigger, newer map requested ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayleaf Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 Its the building on the map at the corner of Broad Oaks and Bents Rd. It seems that at some point, the building marked as the mission was Broad Oak School. I wondered if The Old School House was the predecessor of that school. Whilst in the area, where does the name Hill Turrets come from? Hill Turrets was the name of the large house that stood where the flats complex is now. If the other building we're talking about is the one actually on the corner, more or less facing Bents Road, its an old brush mill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveHB Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 Could well be. 1850's Having taken a look on Google Street, I am now unsure that the old building was the school house, sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 William Henry Beet, Master Endowed School, Broad Oak, Ecclesall Bierlow. Whites 1871. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 George Bartin, Day & Boarding School, Broad Oak, Hill Top, Bents Green, Rodgers 1841. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 George Barton, School Master, Broad Oak Green, Gells 1825. Bartin/Barton ... maybe we can find him in 1841 Census, where's Syrup ?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 1841 (I'm still lost ... !) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveHB Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 Hill Turrets was the name of the large house that stood where the flats complex is now. If the other building we're talking about is the one actually on the corner, more or less facing Bents Road, its an old brush mill. <iframe width="562" height="314" frameborder="0" scrolling="no" marginheight="0" marginwidth="0" src="http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&q=sheffield&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Sheffield,+South+Yorkshire,+United+Kingdom&t=m&layer=c&cbll=53.351397,-1.523716&panoid=ndjv640ui-eDgN71mSMnAg&cbp=13,175.7,,0,-3.05&ll=53.346824,-1.523752&spn=0.016089,0.048237&z=14&source=embed&output=svembed"></iframe><br /><small><a href="http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&q=sheffield&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Sheffield,+South+Yorkshire,+United+Kingdom&t=m&layer=c&cbll=53.351397,-1.523716&panoid=ndjv640ui-eDgN71mSMnAg&cbp=13,175.7,,0,-3.05&ll=53.346824,-1.523752&spn=0.016089,0.048237&z=14&source=embed" style="color:#0000FF;text-align:left">View Larger Map</a></small> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayleaf Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 <iframe width="562" height="314" frameborder="0" scrolling="no" marginheight="0" marginwidth="0" src="http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&q=sheffield&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Sheffield,+South+Yorkshire,+United+Kingdom&t=m&layer=c&cbll=53.351397,-1.523716&panoid=ndjv640ui-eDgN71mSMnAg&cbp=13,175.7,,0,-3.05&ll=53.346824,-1.523752&spn=0.016089,0.048237&z=14&source=embed&output=svembed"></iframe><br /><small><a href="http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&q=sheffield&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Sheffield,+South+Yorkshire,+United+Kingdom&t=m&layer=c&cbll=53.351397,-1.523716&panoid=ndjv640ui-eDgN71mSMnAg&cbp=13,175.7,,0,-3.05&ll=53.346824,-1.523752&spn=0.016089,0.048237&z=14&source=embed" style="color:#0000FF;text-align:left">View Larger Map</a></small> Yes, that's the brush mill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveHB Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 So this is The Old School House on Broad Elms Lane (former Broad Oak Ln) the one marked 'mission room' on the 1900's map image courtesy of Google Link to pictuiresheffield Link to Flash Earth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayleaf Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 A bit more detail, from Shirley Frost's book on Whirlow; Next to Broad Oaks Farm was Broad Oak School together with its school house.This long stone building is now converted into four flats, but for nearly 200 years it was a school. Founded as a Charity School in 1729, six poor boys or girls were taught English. In 1841 three scholars were boarding at the school and by 1871 there were 10 boarding pupils, 2 lodgers, 2 servants, the School Master, William Beet and his School Mistress wife, Sophia. In the early part of the 20th Century the school became a mission hall, harvest festivals were held in the school room and the Mothers' Union used it for their meetings. During WW2 it became an ARP Wardens' post. Around 1930 the Mission Hall once again became a school with Miss G L Jackson as Principal. Later Miss Hambley and Miss Givens ran the private school. Ecclesall High School maintained a high reputation and ran most successfully but in 1962 the two headmistresses and their 80 pupils were served with notice to quit; the whole building required a great deal of money spending on it and the church, who owned the properrty was forced to sell. (I've read elsewhere that the last straw was that the roof was very badly damaged in the Sheffield Gale.) A bungalow now stands on the school playground and 3 flats replace the rose garden. So yes Steve, your picture above is the old School House. Back to the Whirlow book; The Brush Factory (not Mill, my mistake), is a 3 storey building with its unusual arched windows situated at the corner of Broad Elms Lane and Bents Road, built in 1828 by Jonathan Makinson. Adjacent to it was a saw and timber yard.. The wood was reputed to have been stored under the arches, now the semi-circular windows. The cellar, now filled in, contained many millstones, and a deep well whose water even in times of drought remained constant. By 1841 Jonathan was making besoms, brushes made of twigs, tied around a handle. The twigs were often of heather readily available from the nearby moors. They were ideal for kitchen or garden use and had been made around this area for generations. In 1760 2 dozen besoms cost 4/- . The building had become 2 dwellings with the brush factory across the top which was approached by a stone staircase on the outside of the building. Jonathan was said to be 6'6'' tall. A Master Brushmaker, he lived here with his wife Mary, son harry, a journeyman brush-maker, and 2 other sons, William and Jonathan. Next door lived Charles Makinson with his wife and his young son Henry. In 1871 Johathan (now 80 and a widower) still lived here looked after by his son Harry, now married with a stepson. Brushes were still being made. The factory consisted of 3 rooms running off a long corridor and the views from the windows were magnificent. Joseph Vickers, a quarryman lived next door with his wife Elizabeth and their 6 children. The second house was approached from the now blocked-up doorway on Broad Elms lane. Later the house passed to the Mountford family from Abbey Lane and brush-making ceased. The garden was much larger than it is today and Fred Mountford was justly proud of it. Creepers covered the house, the 2 large yew trees in the front garden still stand, but when Bents Road was widened, part of the frontage was lost and the trees are now on the pavement outside the garden wall. After her parents' death, Hannah Mountford remained in the house until her death at the age of 92. On 16th November 1972 a preservation order was put on the old house and in 1975 it was converted into a maisonette and flat, the garden was sold for building and it acquired a new name, Bents Green House. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gafferflint Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 Amazing work! Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philkai Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Hi Guys Just found this post whilst researching Broad Oak school. "Next to Broad Oaks Farm was Broad Oak School together with its school house.This long stone building is now converted into four flats, but for nearly 200 years it was a school. Founded as a Charity School in 1729, six poor boys or girls were taught English. In 1841 three scholars were boarding at the school and by 1871 there were 10 boarding pupils, 2 lodgers, 2 servants, the School Master, William Beet and his School Mistress wife, Sophia." Sophia was Sophia Skelton who was born in Hollins End Handsworth in 1831 and married William Beet in 1853, She was the sister of James Skelton who went on to run the Woodthorpe Arms (see post). They later show in 1891 census living at: 92, Winter Street, Sheffield although William shows as a "widower" I would appreciate anyone with further info on the school Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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