SteveHB Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 These images appear in another Topic, thought I would post them here as they relate to machinery used in rolling mills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neddy Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 The billboards at the lower end of the picture were set on Penistone Rd., and by their position, I would suggest the shot is from Langsett Rd., in the vicinity of Wilcox's furniture shop. from about 1954 until 1971 my folks had a corner beer off/ grocery at the corner of Neepsend Land and Farfield Rd. They served sandwiches, tea, etc. to the workers at Andrews Toledo, as it was known then. I'd say you are right vicinity of Wilcock's, Jeff Hall Motorcycles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chavey42 Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 I thought this may be of interest. I found it on ebay (a picture for sale), and it is described as cica 1920's. The dress of the man at the side may well suggest that date, but the working mens clothes and the structure of the bar mill is very much as I remember when visiting it as a child in the early 1950's. I also found the following on http://www.sfbhistory.org.uk/Pages/SheffieldatWar/Page05 I remember my father talking about this kind of specialist steel work during the war. The Sheffield Forge & Rolling Mills Co. Ltd IN the early days of the war The Sheffield Forge & Rolling Mills Co. Ltd., Millsands Works, was called in to help, with its special sections, in the development of new weapons. The first request was for a special bomb-release section for heavy bomber planes, and this product was supplied continuously throughout the war, saving many thousands of man-hours in machining. Forgings were next required for reciprocators on multiple A.A. guns; and then came a demand for forged shafts for the main drive on naval landing craft. All this time various experimental sections were being made at Millsands Works for the ever-changing Barracuda dive bomber. Then the Air Ministry wanted a special "V" section to fit over the wing edges of Mosquito planes for cutting balloon cables when in flight. This again was accomplished to the satisfaction of the authorities. Considerable tonnages of rectangular section were supplied for the links of flail tanks, and a very large output was maintained, over several years, of bright cold drawn bars for Hispano cannon shell and of black rolled bars for the Oerlikon gun. Hundreds of tons of 2-lb. tank-piercing shell steel were produced, and after the Battle of Alamein, when the superior penetrating power of the German 6-lb. shell was discovered, a rapid turnover on to a British counterpart was ordered and dispatched in big tonnages. When the submarine menace made it necessary for our ships outside Coastal Command range to be protected, an urgent priority instruction was received for steel sections for making the catapult mechanism used in launching Spitfires from ships. This demand was successfully met in time to save many ships and their cargoes. The Company was also largely engaged on the production of agricultural plates, sheets and special sections. Over a third of its plant was devoted to this work, producing more than 40,000 tons of such material during the war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chavey42 Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 i started work at sheffield forge in 1957 that mill is SK2 i was cog backer in that mill in 1960 untill 1969 when i moved to australia. my brother worked in the same mill he was our puller out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayleaf Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 i started work at sheffield forge in 1957 that mill is SK2 i was cog backer in that mill in 1960 untill 1969 when i moved to australia A belated welcome to the forum chavey42. Not having worked in the industry, I'd like to know what a cog backer is/was? Sheffield industries were full of terms and names special to them, and many are in danger of being lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bullerboy Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 The picture shown is Andrews Toledo works and appears to be taken from the bottom of Ash St,the Sheffield Rolling Mills that I knew as a child was at the Junction of Bridge St and Corporation St. and always looked like hell on earth to me,it made my mind up at an early age never to work in the steel industry.The motorbike shops were,A Clayton near Wilcoxs shop and Motor Spares at the bottom of Greaves St and was owned by Joe Quince of Oughtibridge the other motorbike shops in the area were Leather and Simpson Infirmary Rd and Smiths at the bottom of Henry St also Howard Kenyon near Leathers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bullerboy Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Correction Nursery St should read Corporation St. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chavey42 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 A belated welcome to the forum chavey42. Not having worked in the industry, I'd like to know what a cog backer is/was? Sheffield industries were full of terms and names special to them, and many are in danger of being lost. The guy on the far left in the picture is the gog backer is job was to catch the billet and send it back through the bottom rolls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayleaf Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 The guy on the far left in the picture is the gog backer is job was to catch the billet and send it back through the bottom rolls Thanks, I learn something new every day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taylomax Posted July 15, 2012 Author Share Posted July 15, 2012 Bayleaf raises an interesting point about the names of the different jobs in a rolling mill. My father was (or described himself) as a roller, and for all his working life as I remember it, he was the man at the end of the chain of rolls who finished the rolling. I think he was in charge of the set (is that the right term?). Other specialist jobs I remember (as oppsoed to crane driver and furnaceman) was the 'puller-out' who took the finished rolled bar from the rolls on the last pass (a posting on http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/archive/index.php/t-71012.html refers to the same job as 'runner out'), to the 'straightener', who if my memory is correct sat in a sort of recess in the floor, and turned and adjusted the finished bar so that it cooled straight. As a very young boy, I knew all about fractions and how to use a micrometer because he taught me as he showed and talked to me about his work which seemed to require an extraordinary degree of accuracy to avoid spoiling the steel - it seemed to be a job that requiered enormous skill, and judgement. I can't imagine that a trade like this will ever be created again (and who would want to work in such appalling conditions), so collecting memories of it is I think important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taylomax Posted July 15, 2012 Author Share Posted July 15, 2012 At the risk of over posting on this topic, here is a little more background on Sheffield forge and Rolling Mills from http://www.gracesguide.co.uk/Sheffield_Forge_and_Rolling_Mills_Co Sheffield Forge and Rolling Mills Co of Millsands Works, Sheffield 1872 The company was established on 18 July. 1951 Nationalised under the Iron and Steel Act; became part of the Iron and Steel Corporation of Great Britain 1953 Sold by Holding and Realization Agency to Darwins Ltd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayleaf Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 At the risk of over posting on this topic, here is a little more background on Sheffield forge and Rolling Mills from http://www.gracesgui...olling_Mills_Co Sheffield Forge and Rolling Mills Co of Millsands Works, Sheffield 1872 The company was established on 18 July. 1951 Nationalised under the Iron and Steel Act; became part of the Iron and Steel Corporation of Great Britain 1953 Sold by Holding and Realization Agency to Darwins Ltd. Post away, it's all good stuff and very welcome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sammyopisite Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Two of English Steel Company,s lorries a 8 wheel Albion and Foden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lysander Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 I wonder, would "taylomax" have gone to FPGS, as well as Hucklow Road Junior and had a Dad called Dennis and a Mum called Gracie??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
douglas Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 Yes, this is Hillfoot Bridge where Neepsend Lane meets Penistone Road. You can see the Neepsend gas holders and what I think is a bin wagon going up to the Parkwood landfill. In the background, the hill rises up and it must be Pitsmoor - Pitsmoor Road, Pye Bank and the tower blocks on Andover St. It isn't Millsands, which is way downstream near the Wicker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southside Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Andrews Toledo shown in the Dave H photo was part of the Darwin Group of Companies.. The Firm i worked for had a building maintenance contract for all the Darwin Group. I started the first weeks of my apprenticeship in 1961 working at the Sheffield Forge and Rolling Mills on Millsands. I also worked at the bar straightening mill they had on Alma Street,it was located just before the Alma pub (Black Cat) and backed onto Kelham Island Andrews Toledo was a fascinating place to work for a 15 year old apprentice. The area close to the Electric Arc Furnace was a scary place to be especially when the furnace was being charged up with electricity,lots of flashes and explosions, and to see the men working in the mill catching the glowing metal rod as it came out of the rollers and then twist it over their head and back through the rollers was a sight to behold,these guys certainly earned their pay. Southside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Szpajer Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 On 7/12/2015 at 16:17, sammyopisite said: Two of English Steel Company,s lorries a 8 wheel Albion and Foden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Szpajer Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Just now, David Szpajer said: can anybody remember the Truswells horse and cart that carried stuff between no.7 gate grimesthorpe (light press ) to brightside lane ESC. this was in 1963. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lysander Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 a. Incidentally, is "taylomax" who started this thread still around? He and I were , I am pretty sure best pals as little snotty nosed, short trousered boys.My Dad worked for years in the Light Press department and I never heard mention of a horse and cart. He left Grimesthorpe when ESC opened the brand new spring department off Shepcote Lane in the early 60's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FayRob Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 On 10/02/2016 at 16:50, southside said: Andrews Toledo shown in the Dave H photo was part of the Darwin Group of Companies.. The Firm i worked for had a building maintenance contract for all the Darwin Group. I started the first weeks of my apprenticeship in 1961 working at the Sheffield Forge and Rolling Mills on Millsands. I also worked at the bar straightening mill they had on Alma Street,it was located just before the Alma pub (Black Cat) and backed onto Kelham Island Andrews Toledo was a fascinating place to work for a 15 year old apprentice. The area close to the Electric Arc Furnace was a scary place to be especially when the furnace was being charged up with electricity,lots of flashes and explosions, and to see the men working in the mill catching the glowing metal rod as it came out of the rollers and then twist it over their head and back through the rollers was a sight to behold,these guys certainly earned their pay. Southside I am assisting solicitors to investigate how a gentleman diagnosed with an asbestos disease was exposed to asbestos during his working life. He worked at Sheffield Rolling Mills Ltd 1969/70 to 1972/73 and Andrews Toledo Ltd.1966/67 and 1968/69 Can anybody assist with any information please as to asbestos in these workplaces. Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FayRob Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 On 03/12/2011 at 23:26, ukelele lady said: Where is this picture taken from, earlier Millsands was mentioned. What is the bridge in the picture. I didn't know anything like this was at Millsands. I am assisting solicitors to investigate how a gentleman diagnosed with an asbestos disease was exposed to asbestos during his working life. He worked at Sheffield Rolling Mills Ltd 1969/70 to 1972/73 and Andrews Toledo Ltd.1966/67 and 1968/69 Can anybody assist with any information please as to asbestos in these workplaces. Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southside Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 19 hours ago, FayRob said: I am assisting solicitors to investigate how a gentleman diagnosed with an asbestos disease was exposed to asbestos during his working life. He worked at Sheffield Rolling Mills Ltd 1969/70 to 1972/73 and Andrews Toledo Ltd.1966/67 and 1968/69 Can anybody assist with any information please as to asbestos in these workplaces. Thank you Sorry FayRob, Can't help you with any information regarding asbestos. I was a young teenager at the time and didn't take much notice of my surroundings. Regards Southside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FayRob Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 On 20/07/2022 at 13:51, southside said: Sorry FayRob, Can't help you with any information regarding asbestos. I was a young teenager at the time and didn't take much notice of my surroundings. Regards Southside Thank you for replying to me Southside. Much appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysanderix Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 Taylomax……If you are still around we grew up together on Downham Road! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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