popt Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 My ancestors lived at Belle View Farmhouse which was situated at the top of Terry Street which is now the Carbrook Rec. and the Sheffield Arena site. I saw a mention of the farm in a local book Ònce Round the Lump`. Does anyone know if the house which stands there is the original Belle View Farmhouse? Also I would love to hear any other information about the farm and the Terry family who lived there. PopT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveHB Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Hi PopT. A building named 'Belle Vue' appears on maps dated around 1854, on later maps (1890) the layout and size of the building looks to have changed and is called a Lodge. So whether the old farm was demolished and the new building (Lodge) replaced it, or if the old farm house was extended, would be hard to say. 1903 link to 1950's OS link to Flash Earth Mr. John Terry, Darnall. Kelly's 1854 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popt Posted November 4, 2011 Author Share Posted November 4, 2011 Hi SteveHB Thankyou for the maps and your observations. I know the family signed a contractto allow the Sheffield council to dump the nightsoil onto the land at the rear of the house but I do not know when the family moved into Sheffield. My Grandfather was born the Wicker in 1859, so I wonder if the Sheffield council bought the farm and the land to develop the site. In the family's day Terry Street was only a trck up to the farm but I guess as the nightsoil carts began to use the track it would probably made into a metalled road, adopted and given the name Terry Street after the family name. It would be good if anyone could fill in some of these details. Happy Days! PopT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveHB Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Stephen Terry, gentleman, Bellevue. Attercliffe. Directory & Topography of Sheffield, 1862 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveHB Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Chas Fredk Terry, insurance agent, 11 St. James Street, house; 292 Fernley Place. George Terry, shopkeeper, 43 Trinity Street. Samuel Terry, manager, Leeds Terrace, 251 (Lower) St. Phillip's Road. Directory & Topography of Sheffield, 1862 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syrup Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Hi SteveHB Thankyou for the maps and your observations. I know the family signed a contractto allow the Sheffield council to dump the nightsoil onto the land at the rear of the house but I do not know when the family moved into Sheffield. My Grandfather was born the Wicker in 1859, so I wonder if the Sheffield council bought the farm and the land to develop the site. In the family's day Terry Street was only a trck up to the farm but I guess as the nightsoil carts began to use the track it would probably made into a metalled road, adopted and given the name Terry Street after the family name. It would be good if anyone could fill in some of these details. Happy Days! PopT Stephen Terry 1846 The Sheffield & Rotherham Independent (Sheffield, England), Saturday, February 14, 1846; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syrup Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Stephen Terry 1851 The Sheffield & Rotherham Independent(Sheffield, England), Saturday, April 05, 1851; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syrup Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Stephen Terry, gentleman, Bellevue. Attercliffe. Directory & Topography of Sheffield, 1862 Stephen Terry 1851 SHEFFIELD INTERMEDIATE SESSIONS . The Sheffield & Rotherham Independent (Sheffield, England), Saturday, August 30, 1851 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syrup Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Hi SteveHB Thankyou for the maps and your observations. I know the family signed a contractto allow the Sheffield council to dump the nightsoil onto the land at the rear of the house but I do not know when the family moved into Sheffield. My Grandfather was born the Wicker in 1859, so I wonder if the Sheffield council bought the farm and the land to develop the site. In the family's day Terry Street was only a trck up to the farm but I guess as the nightsoil carts began to use the track it would probably made into a metalled road, adopted and given the name Terry Street after the family name. It would be good if anyone could fill in some of these details. Happy Days! PopT Terry Street 1889 The Sheffield & Rotherham Independent (Sheffield, England), Saturday, November 16, 1889; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popt Posted November 4, 2011 Author Share Posted November 4, 2011 I wish to thank you all for your postings, the information you have sent has been great. PopT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Stephen Terry, victualler Travellers Inn, Attercliffe (White's 1849) Stephen Terry 1846 The Sheffield & Rotherham Independent (Sheffield, England), Saturday, February 14, 1846; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Probably nothing to do with anything; here's some mentions of Belle Vue ... J B Furniss, Esquire Belle Vue Baine's 1822 John Bernard Furniss, Merchant h. Belle Vue White's 1833 John Yeomans, Merchant h. Belle Vue cottage White's 1833 Stacey, William and George, Ironmongers, 25 Fruit Market; h. Belle Vue Road White's 1833 Thomas Cawton Belle Vue House, Kimberworth Kelly's 1893 Edward Gatley Belle Vue House, Kimberworth Kelly's 1893 Alfred Gainsford (Capt., R.A.), Belle Vue, Norfolk Park Road White's 1905 Major Alfred John Gainsford, R.A., Belle Vue, Norfolk Park Road White's 1911 Major Alfred John Gainsford, R.A., Belle Vue, Norfolk Park Road White's 1919 Major Alfred John Gainsford, R.A. J.P., Belle Vue, Norfolk Park Road Kelly's 1925 Just for information and to add confusion as to whats going on :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveH Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Hi PopT. A building named 'Belle Vue' appears on maps dated around 1854, on later maps (1890) the layout and size of the building looks to have changed and is called a Lodge. So whether the old farm was demolished and the new building (Lodge) replaced it, or if the old farm house was extended, would be hard to say. 1903 link to 1950's OS link to Flash Earth Mr. John Terry, Darnall. Kelly's 1854 So this is Sheffield's real "Belle Vue" (Nice view , it's at Attercliffe for goodness sake! ), not to be confused with "Bell Vue" at the bottom of Norfolk Park which overlooked Bell Pits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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