Bayleaf Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 According to Henry Tatton, a Mr Robert Hales kept a pub on Langsett Road. He was 8ft tall, with a 62 inch chest, and weighed 39 stones. Anyone know which pub and when? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 According to Henry Tatton, a Mr Robert Hales kept a pub on Langsett Road. He was 8ft tall, with a 62 inch chest, and weighed 39 stones. Anyone know which pub and when? Burgoyne Arms, 1861-62 22/11/1863 Death, Robert Hales, "Norfolk Giant" aged 43, Height 7ft 6in Weight 452lb (Landlord of the Burgoyne Arms). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 According to Henry Tatton, a Mr Robert Hales kept a pub on Langsett Road. He was 8ft tall, with a 62 inch chest, and weighed 39 stones. Anyone know which pub and when? or did he ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayleaf Posted January 19, 2011 Author Share Posted January 19, 2011 or did he ? Mmm. A salutary lesson, I shall treat Henry's notes with a caution similar to Wikipaedia in future! I wonder if it's the source of the bit in your link about an inn in Sheffield? In which case... while trawling Vol 1 of his notes I came across the following: Star Inn, 1st house in Silver Street, 1742 Bird in Hand, next to the Cutlers Hall, chief resort of packmen. Barrel Inn, Pyebank, corner of Rock Street (drawing included) In 1812 Mr Hinchcliffe kept the Greyhound in Cambridge Street, and was the only constable. Tyrer's Vaults, bottom of Waingate (drawing included.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 or did he ? it would appear he might have been The Norfolk Giant after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Mmm. A salutary lesson, I shall treat Henry's notes with a caution similar to Wikipaedia in future! I wonder if it's the source of the bit in your link about an inn in Sheffield? In which case... while trawling Vol 1 of his notes I came across the following: Star Inn, 1st house in Silver Street, 1742 Bird in Hand, next to the Cutlers Hall, chief resort of packmen. Barrel Inn, Pyebank, corner of Rock Street (drawing included) In 1812 Mr Hinchcliffe kept the Greyhound in Cambridge Street, and was the only constable. Tyrer's Vaults, bottom of Waingate (drawing included.) I'll look into these, the Bird in Hand I know of. Must have nosh, I'm feeling slim compared to 39 stones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 it would appear he might have been The Norfolk Giant after all. Been on our Pubs list for years ... now, if we can find birth, marriage and death (believed to be in Norfolk), we already have 1861 Census then we are well on our way ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neddy Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Done this one before, http://www.sheffieldhistory.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=2095&st=0&p=10499&hl="robert%20hales"&fromsearch=1&#entry10499 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayleaf Posted January 19, 2011 Author Share Posted January 19, 2011 Done this one before, http://www.sheffield...h=1 My Grandma, what a great memory you've got.. Nice one Neddy!. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Done this one before, http://www.sheffield...h=1 Barely rememer yesterday never mind about 1863; Great stuff Neddy ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neddy Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Barely rememer yesterday never mind about 1863; Great stuff Neddy ! Our lass says how come i can never remember to turn the kettle on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 Bird in Hand, next to the Cutlers Hall, chief resort of packmen. JOHNSON : Our present complicated and wonderful trading system was not made in a day. It is going further back than the " stuffing" system, but let me read you this description of the infancy of the Sheffield trade:- " Formerly the manufacturers had no trade connections, but depended entirely upon persons coming to the town to purchase the articles manufactured. These traders were called ' chaps or chapmen,' and were mostly Scotch or Irish, with some English. Their chief resort was Tommy Rose's, The Bird-in-hand, Church Lane. The house stood where the Cutlers' Hall in part now stands. They generally had with them two, three, or more packhorses for the conveyance of the goods purchased. When a ' chap' arrived, the ostler went round to each of the manufacturers to inform him of the fact, and each gave him a penny for his information and trouble. An old man said, 'Oive been raand wi'him mony a toime, when oi war a lad, aboon 70 year sin.' Sometimes there were two', three, or four 'chaps' in the house at one time, and each had a separate room for business. The cutlers waited until all was ready and then went upstairs ' i' their kales.' If they bargained they left the goods and took the money home with them. The house was sometimes quite crowded. There were other houses in the town which travellers or 'chaps' frequented upon the same business, but none was as popular as Tommy Rose's. Source No year/range for Tommy Rose - shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vox Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 The cutlers waited until all was ready and then went upstairs ' i' their kales.' If they bargained they left the goods and took the money home with them. i' their kales One at a time, in turn (Old Sheffield dialect) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 1851 Craven Head Tavern, Drury Lane however, Sheffields claim to him is 10 years later. I do, however, like the Maria/Elizabeth Dimond (6 feet tall herself the article says) wife confusion .. and the Sheffield-based mans son being called General - born in London, so that fits well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 Confusion, was he 43 or 50 when he died ? Grave Died 22nd November 1865 according to this, aged 50. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 13/1820 ??? Not going to ague with a 36-inch thigh ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukelele lady Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 Our lass says how come i can never remember to turn the kettle on. Or send her an Anniversary card. he he Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukelele lady Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Can anyone place these? 1774 Blue Ball, Castlefolds Richard Wilson. Clerk to the old Leeds stage coach. 1893 Crown & Cushion Eckington, William Rhodes 1859 Corporation Vaults , Orchard Street Henry Rodgers 1833 Duke William Mosborough . George Fox 1856 Exchange Vaults , Castlefolds Market Peter Wilson 1879 Eyres Armrs , Carver Street Joseph Moseley 1859 Free Stags Head , 24 Pinstone Street . E Bradshaw 1851 Gate Woodhouse. W Turner 1859 Ghost Tavern 35 Campo Lane Thomas Downes 1859 Grapes White Croft . John Bartley 1859 Gardener's Rest Harmer Lane. Edwin Howard 1922 Grosvenor Hotel Nursury Street . Samuel Charles Dean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vox Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Can anyone place these? 1774 Blue Ball, Castlefolds Richard Wilson. Clerk to the old Leeds stage coach. 1893 Crown & Cushion Eckington, William Rhodes 1859 Corporation Vaults , Orchard Street Henry Rodgers 1833 Duke William Mosborough . George Fox 1856 Exchange Vaults , Castlefolds Market Peter Wilson 1879 Eyres Armrs , Carver Street Joseph Moseley 1859 Free Stags Head , 24 Pinstone Street . E Bradshaw 1851 Gate Woodhouse. W Turner 1859 Ghost Tavern 35 Campo Lane Thomas Downes 1859 Grapes White Croft . John Bartley 1859 Gardener's Rest Harmer Lane. Edwin Howard 1922 Grosvenor Hotel Nursury Street . Samuel Charles Dean FREE = THREE Stags Heads Edward Bradshaw known 1862, 24 Pinstone Street Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 I have Blue Ball, Dixon Lane/Castle Foulds, Richard Wilson, 1774. Possible it was removed for The Tontine maybe ??? Can anyone place these? 1774 Blue Ball, Castlefolds Richard Wilson. Clerk to the old Leeds stage coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vox Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Can anyone place these? 1859 Free Stags Head , 24 Pinstone Street . E Bradshaw FREE = THREE stags Heads lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Norfolk Vaults, 28 Dixon Lane, Peter Wilson known 1852-1854 Can anyone place these? 1856 Exchange Vaults , Castlefolds Market Peter Wilson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 I love the Ghost Tavern, especially since its so central. Eckington and Mosborough, I couldn't find without a map, but Campo Lane ... are these boozers or beerhouses ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Samuel Charles Dean, Proprietor Grosvenor Temperance Hotel, 10 Nursery Street (Kelly's 1925) Can anyone place these? 1922 Grosvenor Hotel Nursury Street . Samuel Charles Dean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Home or premises of a sausage maker, James Dowson in 1852 ... Can anyone place these? 1859 Ghost Tavern 35 Campo Lane Thomas Downes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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