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  1. syrup

    Flour mill in Sheffield ?

    Hi beemerchez Here's one your uncle might find interesting in fact the whole site is very good. THE STEAM CORN MILL. Walk along Attercliffe road-or CarIton road as it was called in earlier days-for about a hundred- and-thirty yards, from the eastern end of Bridge terrace to No. 457, just beyond Armstead road. This distance indicates the frontage of the old Attercliffe steam mill property. Turn along Armstead road and note the houses numbered 8 to 16 on the right. flow they differ from their neighboursI The old-fashioned roof-tiles proclaim their old age! They formed the dwellings of Robert Bunby and other employees at the corn mill more than sixty years ago. Within the memory of many Atterclevians, here, at No. 8, were " The Attercliffe Turkish Baths " with Thomas Garbutt as proprietor and medical botanist, the best sixpenny Turkish Bath in England 1 " Cross over Stevenson road into Birch road: note the gloomy-looking stone building bearing the informative description " The Sheffield Foundry Workers' Club and Institute." That was. the Mill House once upon a time. Before the club had it 11 The Self-supporting Dispensary " was here in CarIton Hall its it had come to be known. " Poor persons can have medi cine by paying sixpence "-so ran a contemporary notice fifty years ago- provided they attend before eleven in the mornings, except on Sunday. Members pay one penny weekly, which entitles them to attendance and medicine. Mr.. O'Meara is chief, assisted by Mr. Turner." " The buoyant and vivacious Timothy O'Meara 1 His memory will long be fragrant in the recollections of hundreds of Attercliffe, people. And the same can be said of William Turner, who died at the dispensary on the seventh of February, 1893, an unqualified practitioner from the technical point of view, but credited by the thousands to whose ailments he ministered as a physician of rare discernment and skill."' Later, John Columba Byrne, physician and surgeon, carried on the beneficent work. Then followed the club and institute. The mill itself stood a little to our right as we walk from the Turkish Baths to the Dispensary, one corner in Birch road and another on the far side of Stevenson road. The 1795 Fairbank map shows a corn mill on this site, but a 1792 record states that William and John Hartop were proposing to take a part of Washford Meadow on a 99 years' lease. It is quite possible that this record gives us a clue to the early days of the mill. When it became a steam mill is not clear, but it carried this description in 1805. William Hartop was the miller, and in 1819 he was living in Heppenstall lane. Built into the wall of the new premises at the eastern side of Zion Chapel is an old tombstone, removed from the nowcovered part of the old graveyard, bearing the inscription " In memory of Mary Ann Hartop, the only child of William and Sarah Hartop, of Attercliffe, who died July 10th, 1817, aged 19 years." Mrs. Hartop, described in the Zion records as 'I the miller's wife," was also buried in this yet-revered God's acre. In a 1787 Attercliffe rate-book I find William Hartop and Company credited with two coal pits, an ironstone pit and a brickyard, but, unfortunately, the whereabouts of these centres of activity are omitted. Further, in the Minutes of the Overseers of the Poor under date July 30th, 1819, the names Wm. Hartop, Esq., and Mr. Jonathan Oakes, occur in the somewhat lengthy list of overseers present. Miller Hartop will long be remembered for his great generosity in the days of high prices of flour at the end of the 18th century and the beginning of the 19th. It is recorded that in 1801 the bellman announced that the people could be supplied with 1 Hartley for 1888 and 1894. flour at Michael Raybould's, in Snig hill, for 1016 a stone.' In August, 1795, it was 516, but Mr. Hartop, sensing the hardship laid on the working classes by demanding such a price, promptly sent his wagons into the town laden with flour at 2/7 a stone. In their gratitude' the people harnessed themselves to a coach and dragged it to Attercliffe for the purpose of bringing the benevolent miller to Sheffield and drawing him in triumph through the streets of the town. He declined the honour, but the importunity of the populace induced him to permit his servants to go instead, and the coach proceeded to the town amidst continual acclamations of Joy. This mill was destroyed by fire in 1805. Here is the account of the fire as it appeared in The Iris for October 31st. ---Thismorning at five o'clock the Steam Mill at Attercliffe was discovered to be on fire. The flames burst through the windows and raged with such fury that nothing could be coved. The roof fell in about six o'clock. All the grain, Machinery and so forth were consumed." . However, a new mill was shortly erected on the same spot. Fairbank, 1819, shows that the estate, just over three acres in extent was in the hands of William Hydes' executors and in the tenancy of John Shirley. There were two ponds, a house and garden, a small plantation and an acre enclosure adjacent to the highway, and then the 'steam engine, corn mill, stables, etc.,' to the right of the house. In 1822 we get J. mod T. Shirley: 1833, John Shirley, miller and maltster: 1838, Shirley and Parker, corn factors, miller& and maltsters (Benjamin Shirley at the mill house, Henry Parker at Hall Carr). In 1839 John Shirley is a corn miller and merchant me Not 10 Corn Exchange and at our steam mill. This takes tic sotto the Old Town when the Corn Exchange stood a little to the east of the River Sheaf (then-running in the open, not, as now, underground) between the Canal bridge in Exchange street and the Sheaf bridge in Broad street. In front of it was the New Haymarket, the site now occupied by the 'Wholesale Fruit Market. Thomas Shirley, grocer and flour dealer, 26 Church street and No. 1 Haymarket, supplies us with another memory of the old town in his further business description of " Corn Miller, Albion Mill, Shemeld Croft." Our present Commercial street viaduct approximately runs over the old croft, and down there in the Sheaf Market the Albion Corn mill is still standing and known as the Live Stock Market. Getting back, however, to Attercliffe, in 1849 Jackson and Smith were here, Samuel Smith being the resident partner. They were also the millers at the quaint little flour mill at Canklow which is now merged into John ,Brown's colliery premises there. Jackson and Sons were the millers in 1852, and then followed Philip Stevenson in '54, with Stevenson and Dodds a little later. Isaac Dodds was the senior partner in the firm of Dodds and Sons, engineers, millwrights, etc., at the Holmes Engine and Railway Works, Masbro' : whilst miller Stevenson (or Stephenson) resided in the mill-house with its " shrubbery, garden, greenhouse, fruit walls, stable and carriage house," to quote the 1861 rate-book description of the residential part of the mill property. The partners, had their own malt-kiln and wharf on the canalside, along with nine tenements, at the top of Wharf yard or Courts 20 and 22 near the Royal Oak Inn. It was in this yard that Tom Gill resided, the night watchman at Hornby and Elliott's chemical works (see p. 91), who, on the night of the Sheffield Flood in 1864, was suddenly alarmed by the rushing waters, gave a wild shriek, and perished in the flood. Calamity again overtook our mill: here is the Sheffield Daily Telegraph account of the second fire on July 24th, 1863. Great fire this morning. Destruction of the Attercliffe Steam Corn-mill. These extensive corn and flour mills, the property of Messrs. Stevenson and Dodds, were destroyed byfire this morning in about one-and-a-half hours. The main building was 25 to 30 yards long, and five storeys high, containing 300 sacks of flour and 1200 of corn, a very small part of which was saved. The fire engine arrived half-anhour after the outbreak was discovered, but the fire had then gained possession of the premises, and soon the building was a mass of flames. The stables, haylofts and other outbuildings were preserved. Several of the onlookers stated that they remembered the previous conflagration in 1805. The damage is estimated at £5000." Mr. David M.. Chapman says that the stones taken from the ruins were used in building the shops at the corner of Church. lane and Attercliffe road, where Lomas Clapson's clock-face on the front wall for so many years reminded us of his tenancy of No. 717 in the eighteen- seventies. Let us roam in imagination. over the steam-mill estate of eighty or ninety years ago, guiding ourselves by present-day landmarks. Walk a short distance along Stevenson road: we are really on the big lawn in front of Mr. Stevenson's residence, having made an entrance through the border of trees behind the CarIton road boundary wall 1 There's a fine shrubbery on our right, screening the mill department from the house. On our left, where is now Bessemer square, commenced a ten-foot carriage. drive from the road to the front door, and beyond that row of trees along its edge are a smaller lawn, a little copse, and a reservoir connected by a narrow channel with the larger one behind the house, the remotest corner of which miniature lake is fairly indicated by the junction of Birch and Livingstone roads. From this second dam a straight water course, about 900 feet long, ran, to the Don which it joined behind the Crown Works in Bessemer road. There seems to have been an underground water-supply for these dams from the Woodbourn estate and beyond. Mr. Paul, discussing the point some years ago, said that he remembered such a channel being 1 cleaned out' at the Stoke street corner. The house side of the property we notice is well wooded, but the mill section is devoid of such sylvan amenities. Armstead road represents the wagonway to the mill buildings: on our right are the employees' dwellings, and behind them a row of sheds and warehouses ending at the reservoir edge. A study of the 1819 plan on page 72 will materially help us in our 1 fairyland' ramble in 1850. The long, straight water course mentioned above is indicated by the division line between James Simpson's holding, number 51, on the right, and Joseph Read's, numbered 48 and 50, on the left. http://youle.info/history/fh_material/attercliffe_p3.html
  2. Information as much use as a chocolate fireguard, but here goes : Sportsman 20 Coal Pit Lane (1833)
  3. RichardB

    Division St pubs in the70s

    This would appear to be my contribution, some old, some new. Probably more that you asked for Bar Coast Division Street, S1 (1998) Devonshire Arms (1825- ) Dolphin Hotel 37 Division Street (1845- ) Forester's Inn/Yorick/The Yorl/Olive Bar 75 Division Street (1834 - ) John Bull 126 Rockingham Street (1871 - ) Lloyds No 1 2-12 Division Street (1999) Manchester 4 Division Street (1849 - ) Mansfield Hotel 73 Division Street (1871 - ) Original John Bull 6 Division Street (1846 - ) Union 1 Division Street (1837 - ), became the Albert Pub, usually listed as 2 Coal Pit Lane (Cambridge Street) White Lion/New White Lion 61 Division Street (1871 - ) Yates's Carver Street/Division Street (1993) Yorkshire Stingo 50 Division Street (1833 - ), site of Fire Station. Prince of Wales/Frog and Parrot 94 Division Street & 37 Westfield Terrace, S1 (1871 - ) There are additional details (Keepers names mainly) and some photos listed in the main Pubs A-Z threads. Additions/corrections gratefully received; especially the keepers of those pesky modern Pubs/Bars - Bar Coast .... etc etc Welcome to the Site Hope you find something of interest and that you are willing and able to contribute.
  4. Guest

    Sheffield Coal Mines

    Oh right that makes sense cos there's a Pit Lane near there. Always assumed they'd be Pits in Pitsmoor obvioulsy cos of the name. My 3xGreat Grandad was a clay/coal miner lived in Attercliffe, guess it was used for the steelworks

    Green Dragon Hotel

    Another one from the same source, Richard. Punch Bowl South Street 1880,s Robert J. Barrass--Licensed retailer of foreign wines and spirits ,Ale, beer ,porter and tobacco to be consumed on the premises. It also mentions The Sign of the Parrot, bottom of Coal Pit Lane in 1832. George
  6. Reform Tavern 76 Coal Pit Lane Open 1796 Closed Span Comments Earlier
  7. Old Cricket Players/Old Falcon 69 Coal Pit Lane Open 1822 Closed Span Comments 1822 was known as Old Falcon Earlier 1822 George Collier (Old Falcon) 1825 George Collier
  8. Union 1 Division Street Open 1825 Closed Span Comments Earlier See Union 2 Coal Pit Lane & 1 Division Street
  9. Dog and Partridge / Nell's Bar 53 Coal Pit Lane, S1 Open 1818 Closed Span Comments Earlier 1818 (pigots) E Middleton 1821 Edward Middleton 1822 Edward Middleton 1825 Edward Middleton 1828 Edward Middleton 1833 Edward Middleton 1937 Mrs Nellie B Cowley [ Nell's Bar, Cambridge Street ] ] 1938 Mrs Nellie B Cowley 1939 Mrs Nellie B Cowley 1942 Mrs Nellie B Cowley 1944 Mrs Nellie B Cowley 1948 Frank E Glennon (Nell's Bar, next Hippodrome, Cambridge Street) 1951 Mrs Elizabeth Hughes (Nell's Bar)
  10. Cambridge Arms / Hotel [ With Billiard Rooms ] 1 Coal Pit Lane Open 1736 Closed Span Comments formerly The Yellow Lion, became Cambridge Street Earlier 1865 F White [ 1 Cambridge Street ] 1868 F White 1871 Edward Stephenson 1876 Edward Stephenson 1879 Edward Stephenson 1881 Edward Stephenson (1 Cambridge Street) 1883 Edward Stephenson 1887 Edward Stephenson 1888 to 1890 Joseph Sanderson 1893 Mrs Mary A Sanderson 1895 -6 Mrs Mary A Sanderson 1898 Mrs Mary A Sanderson 1900 to 1903 Frederick Turner 1905 John William Ashworth (1 Cambridge Street) 1907 Bob W Dealtry 1910 to 1913 Bob W Dealtry 1916 -17 Owen Haslam 1919 to 1925 Owen Haslam 1929 James Garlick Crossland 1931 to 1933 James Garlick Crossland 1936 to 1939 James Garlick Crossland Picture Sheffield Image
  11. Albert 2 Coal Pit Lane, S1 & 1-3 Division Street Open 1797 Closed 1988 Span 191 Comments, formerly Union, became Cambridge Street Earlier 1876 Mrs Hannah Naylor 1879 Mrs Hannah Naylor 1881 Mrs Hannah Naylor (Cambridge Street) 1883 Walter Darley [ 2-4 Cambridge Street ] 1887 May Darley 1888 William Baxby 1889 William Baxby [1-3 Divsion Street & 2-4 Cambridge Street ] 1890 William Baxby 1893 Robert Gill 1895/6 Robert Gill 1898 Robert Gill [1-3 Division Street & 2-4 Cambridge Street ] 1900 Herbert Naylor 1901 Arthur Jackson (2-4 Cambridge Street) 1902 Mrs Martha Turner 1903 Mrs Martha Turner 1905 Robert Hynett 1907 William Fisher 1910 John Picken 1911 John Picken 1912 John Picken 1913 John Picken 1916 John Picken 1917 John Picken 1919 John Picken 1920 John Picken 1921 Hugh Mottram 1922 Thomas Sharpe 1923 Thomas Sharpe 1924 Thomas Sharpe 1925 Mrs Agnes C Mahony 1929 Mrs Agnes C Mahony 1931 Mrs Agnes C Mahony 1932 Mrs Agnes C Mahony 1933 Mrs Agnes C Mahony 1936 Mrs Agnes C Mahony 1937 Mrs Agnes C Mahony 1938 Mrs Agnes Mahony 1939 Mrs Agnes C Mahony 1942 Mrs Agnes C Mahony 1944 Mrs Agnes Mahony 1948 George William Swinburn 1951 George Booth Pictures: http://www.picturesheffield.com/cgi-bin/pi...ff.refno=s21723 http://www.picturesheffield.com/cgi-bin/pi...ff.refno=s14010
  12. RichardB

    Soon To Be Gone

    I want the "Urban Explorer" (can't remember his name, Sorry !) to urban explore Leah's Yard on Cambridge Street; or a placard-waving bunch of SH people to demand entry. Anyone got a map showing the area of the expected carnage please ? Sportsman 20 Coal Pit Lane opened 1833
  13. RichardB


    Pubs, unknown keepers only, Name, Address, Open (if known), Closed (if known), Span (years), rating out of 21 (Higher the score, the better the Pub is represented across all 21 sources used) Ye Old English Samson 1 Duke Street 0 Yellow Ball Nether Hallam 1822 1 Yellow Lion 59 Clifton Street 1796 1 Yellow Lion Coal Pit Lane 1736 10 Yeomanry Hotel 32 Norfolk Street 1833 1896 63 1 York Hotel Broomhill 1854 1 York House 20 Nag's Head Court 1822 1 Yorkshire Clown 24 Paradise Square 1830 1893 63 0 Yorkshire Cricketers 79 Pea Croft 1833 1895 62 1 Young Street Tavern 162 Young Street 0
  14. RichardB

    1871 Pubs "A" and, er, onwards

    "Y" Pubs Number at the end is score out of 17, low is not well represented in Directories, high is well represented; if no names listed, none known; any help/suggestions (1871 only) much appreciated. Name Address Open Closed Span 1871 17 Ye Old English Samson 1 Duke Street 0 Yellow Ball Nether Hallam 1822 1 Yellow Lion Coal Pit Lane 1736 7 Yellow Lion 12 Haymarket 1787 1928 141 Bartholomew Langstaff 8 Yellow Lion 59 Clifton Street 1796 Charles Pickering (Beerhouse) 1 Yeomanry Hotel 32 Norfolk Street 1833 1896 63 1 Yew Tree Malin Bridge 1828 Benjamin Shaw 3 York Hotel Broomhill 1854 1 York Hotel Fulwood Road 1871 Mrs Amelia Hague 1 York House 20 Nag's Head Court 1822 1 Yorkshire Clown 24 Paradise Square 1830 1893 63 0 Yorkshire Cricketers 79 Pea Croft 1833 1895 62 0 Yorkshire Man/Yorkshireman's Arms 31 Burgess Street 1796 still open Mrs Ann Ratcliff 3 Yorkshire Stingo 50 Division Street 1833 10 Young Street Tavern 162 Young Street 0
  15. RichardB

    Newly "proved" Pubs/Beerhouses

    Cambridge Arms, 1 Coal Pit Lane, Edward Stephenson 1871 Quite surprised, this is the only entry for this place (at this address).
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