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  1. Point taken,

    But I see that like me, even after years of not seeing the film you can quote whole sections of it (particularly lyrics from the songs)

    Doesn't that just show how powerfully memorable these films are.

    It does indeed Dave.

    I guess "My Fair Lady" has the best book of any musical, because Alan Jay Lerner did such a good job of keeping much of Shaw's dialogue from the original, and yet actually managed to improve it by the addition of those memorable lyrics.........and, of course, not forgetting Fritz Lowe's beautiful music.

    He did such a good job in fact that - when you watch "Pygmalion" today, all the song cues are there, but no one sings.

    It's most frustrating !

  2. To me "My Fair Lady" was an excellent film with an absolutely fantastic set of songs in it but was spoilt by a very sudden and inconclusive ending.

    I'm suprised that they would try to remake it these days as Professor Higgins (Rex Harrison) as well as being a pompous old snob was also the most sexist character I have seen portrayed in film.

    "Why can't a woman be more like a man?"

    What an attitude :o

    ..and who want a woman to be more like a man when the woman in question was the absolutely gorgeous Audrey Hepburn! B)

    Well Dave !......I think the ending of "My Fair Lady" is not inconclusive........just as Shaw's original ("Pygmalion") is not.

    The audience can think what they like, and make up their own ending, just as they see fit. If they think that Eliza and Higgins are going to live happilly ever after....fine.

    If (like Shaw), they realise that this can never be, because of the social mores of the time, and Higgins' being so happy with his lot.....fine.

    "Pygmalion" ends with the scene at Higgins' mother's house, where Eliza walks out on him saying: "Goodbye Professor Higgins, I shall nor be seeing you again".

    Higgins is left alone, chuckling and telling himself that she will be back.....not for a romantic purpose, but, just to continue the game they have been playing......which would suit Higgins perfectly.

    After all....he's grown accustomed to her face!

    Shaw later wrote an epilogue to his play, in which Eliza actually marries Freddy......who is basically nice, but an upper class twit! They open a flower shop, but it does not do well, and Eliza finally determines to set herself up as a teacher of phonetics, much to Higgins' dismay.

    Again, you can work out for yourself how they all end up.

    I always rather liked old Higgins. I guess because there is a lot of him in me. He can't be doing with the PC brigade, He does like women - to an extent, but the total lack of logic drives him to distraction!

    Like Higgins, i'm a man ...."Who prefers to spend the eveings in the silence of his room. Who likes an atmosphere as restful as an undiscovered tomb"

    BUT...."let a woman in your life............. !!!"....

  3. Hi S24

    You beat me to it. My next posting was going to celebrate the 45th anniversary of the opening of 'My Fair Lady' at the ABC Cinema,Angel Street,Sheffield.

    I remember going to see it there on December 27th 1965 (Matinee) I had already seen 'The Sound Of Music' in August 1965 at The Brighton Regent on a wet afternoon and fell in love with it. I subsequently saw it many times at the Sheffield Odeon then in Doncaster,Rotherham,London,the Gaumont in Sheffield (after twinning) at least twice,Mexborough (my local at the time) and elsewhere as when I was a cinema manager with ABC, it seemed to turn up with regularity at holiday times so I would sneak in to watch my favourite bits.(things!) I have spent many holidays in and around Salzburg so have seen the original locations many times - I not only fell in love with the film but also the country of Austria. The new DVD sounds like a 'must have'. I too have both the original British film brochure and the American one which is a slightly expanded version. In 1976 I went to the London Palladium to see Julie Andrews live in concert and it still remains my most magical evening in the theatre.

    Sorry I pinched your next posting Ab...... we went to see "My Fair Lady" at the first opportunity - Sunday, 10th October,1965. After all, we had been waiting eight years to see it.

    The original Broadway cast LP had been played many times in our house since the show opened in 1956. Indeed, I don't think there were many households in the Western World that didn't have a copy of that album!

    We weren't disappointed. Loved the film then, and still do.

    I don't think I shall be bothering with the projected remake...do you?

    I was lucky enough to see Julie Andrews in the late 80's. This was at the Royal Festival Hall, where she did a Christmas concert with Andre Previn and the LSO.

    They did most of the stuff from their RCA Christmas album and it was magical.

    She still had her voice then, and was in great form.

  4. On Sunday 3rd October 2010 it will be exactly 45 years since 'THE SOUND OF MUSIC' started its 16 month run at the Sheffield Flat Street Odeon.

    Where HAVE all those years gone.

    It doesn't seem possible, does it Ab ??? Where indeed did 45 years go ??

    It seems like only yesterday that I first saw it at the Odeon. I can remember the front of house displays, the programme sellers,etc,etc.

    If you're a fan, you may like to treat yourself to the new 45th Anniversary "Sound of Music" Gift Box from Amazon.

    This is due out next month (in the USA) and as well as the movie on Blu-Ray, you also get a repro of the original Souvenir Brochure (which I still have anyway!), several doccumentaries, postcards, a full colour hard-back book and a musical box that plays "My Favourite Things"

    Go on - spoil yourself !

    Just for the record, the other films showing in Sheffield that week were:

    "Darling" - at the A.B.C

    "What's New Pussycat?" - at the Gaumont

    ...and a double bill at the Classic

    By the way, next Sunday - October 10th is the 45th Anniversary of the Sheffield Premiere of the other big musical of that year - "My Fair Lady".

    It ran at the A.B.C. for 12 weeks, until January 1st, 1966.

    Everyone expected this movie to be the one that did the business that "Sound of Music" ended up doing, and Jack Warner was more than a little miffed when it didn't!

    It was still a big, popular hit though and made a lot of money for Warners.

    But 20th Century Fox made a whole heap more !

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  5. Walt Disney's version of Robin Hood :blink:

    I thought Robin Hood in this version was played by a cartoon fox!

    Or am I thinking of something else? :unsure:

    The "something else" you're thinking of Dave is the awful cartoon version which the Disney organization released in 1973, long after the death of Uncle Walt.

    It was part of the long decline in quality of the Disney product, which wasn't halted until 1989 with the release of "The Little Mermaid", and after that - "Beauty and the Beast" and "Aladdin"


    The Richard Todd Robin was re-issued several times, and returned to Sheffield later in the 50's, the 60's and 70's.

    It doesn't turn up on TV very often, but it is now available on DVD in the States.

  6. Ha ha very good. Yes, roses have never been cheap. It also meant my sister got two complimentary tickets to see the film. Working at the ABC, I got in free anyway - perks of the job you know.

    Hmmmm ! - alright for some eh ? I always had to pay !

    I was in Leicester Square, the night of "Oliver!"'s World Premiere, at the Odeon - Thursday, September 26th, 1968.

    I didn't have tickets for that performance, but I did go the very next night.

    I remember that Princess Margaret and Tony Armstrong-Jones were the Royals in attendance.

    Also there were most of the film's cast : Ron Moody, Shani Wallace, Oliver Reed, Mark Lester, Jack Wild,etc, along with Lionel Bart himself,

    who came out looking as pleased as punch in his big, black fedora!

    Harold Wilson and Mary were there too, along with Douglas Fairbanks, Lulu .....and many others, who I can't quite remember right now, without looking them up !.

    I did see it again when it arrived at our Odeon in Sheffield.

    And, of course, I still have the ticket stubs ...........

  7. Another Australian.

    Like I said in the earlier post, it just isn't good enough to have an Australian playing an English hero. :angry:

    So the Real Robin Hood, given his English pedigree, has to be Richard Greene lol

    Well! Before Richard Greene ................. there was Richard Todd - in Walt Disney's excellent 1952 version of the story.

    For me, this is the next best screen version of "Robin Hood" after Flynn's, and still stands up very well today.

    The supporting cast are terriffic too, with James Hayter being a stand-out as Friar Tuck .......long before he took up with Mr. Kipling !

  8. Display of stills & hanging cards for 'Oliver' at the Sheffield Odeon December 1968

    Nice photo Ab.

    Was this taken in the foyer of the Odeon ?

    "Oliver!" was the last of the Odeon's "Epic" Road Show presentations. It opened on December 22nd, 1968 and ran there until March 8th, 1969......11 weeks in all.

    When the re-vamped, twinned Gaumonts opened in July, 1969, the two cinemas' roles were reversed - with the Gaumont taking the prestige, long run Road Shows,

    and the Odeon getting the run-of-the-mill, weekly stuff.

    Poor old Odeon ! Thirteen years loyal service and suddenly it's "move over, for the new kid on the block !"

  9. If I remember correctly, Frys chocolate was quite a dark chocolate and it contained a white cream.

    There was also a variation with coloured / flavoured creams where each of the 5 pieces was a different colour / flavour inside.

    "Fry's Chocolate Cream" was the minty one in the blue wrapper -see 1960's jigsaw above.

    The fruity one was "Fry's 5 Center" - see 1950's jigsaw above.

    Both delicious !

  10. Whoahhhh!!!....what a mouth watering topic!

    So many memories of long lost favourites.

    If you want to obtain some more permament memories of your favourite sweety blasts from the past,

    you might like to tuck into one of these very tasty jigsaws.

    I bought a couple from the Jigsaw Shop in Meadowhall recently, and they are also available from John Lewis.

    A NUX bar anyone ?

    Enjoy !...........

  11. Thanks again, S24. In relation to Cinerama Topcities specifically I will mail you directly later in the week or as soonest I can get a reply back from America. At this moment, the proprietor could be away on what the Americans call "vacation" (My first cousin is American and I get endless fun out of her by making of mirth out of American terminology......).

    In the meantime, here's a later example of how Cinerama brought a dazzle to British cinemagoing some 40/50 years ago which maybe younger members on the forum may not realise makes all this HD presentation nowadays sound very old-fashioned! And also a link to the aforementioned American site that puts Sheffield up there with the utmost in presentation...

    Link .. www.cinerama.topcities.com

    Ok funky. I look forward to hearing from you. I have some original London flyers for Cinerama that don't seem to be on that website.

    Gaumont 1 was a beautiful cinema, but I still prefer our ABC and the Odeon. Their 70mm presentation was always up there with the best of 'em !

    I also never much cared for "Song of Norway", even though it comes in as Sheffield's joint fourth longest running film.

  12. The building is still there just up from the North Pier but since closing as a cinema it seems to have been several different clubs. The Princess was never twinned or tripled as this fate fell to the (new) ABC Theatre on Church Street which was tripled in 1981 thus ending all stage shows.The Princess was closed as a cinema at this time. The ABC on Church Street closed in 2000 and it too is now a club called the Syndicate - but it is a high class place. Photos of the former ABC Princess as 'The Waterfront' and ABC Theatre as 'The Syndicate.

    Thanks for the photos AB.

    Not exactly an improvement on the originals, are they ?

  13. Yes, Studio 7 definitely showed 'Paint Your Wagon' in 70mm although I didn't see it there. I first saw it at the ABC Princess in Blackpool in 70mm who ran it for the summer season in 1969 - this was during the period when ABC were not playing Paramount films but Blackpool ABC Princess was allowed to show it for some reason and then I saw it again in 70mm at the ABC Doncaster when Paramount backed down and returned to ABC.

    Is the ABC Princess still there in Blackpool, AB ?

    It's funny, isn't it ?....."Paint Your Wagon" was a huge hit here in the UK, even giving Lee Marvin a long running No 1 hit with "Wandrin' Star" , but it flopped in the States.

    There's just no accounting for taste !

  14. Many, many thanks S24. I think my profile on here mentions that Cinerama is a major route for me researching your region. I'm a lead contributor to the international Cinerama site www.cinerama.topcities.com and nearly all the UK London and birmingham ads on there are from my own collection

    May I ask if I can mention this posting to the proprietor of CineramaTopcities in America please; and also may we ask for a direct link to your posting? Maybe one of the Supervisors on here can explain how thats done please.

    I'm glad that the Cinerama info was of interest to you funky.

    There was (and is!) always something special about Cinerama, wasn't there ?

    Sure you can mention my posting to Cinerama Topcities in America, Let me know if there is anything else that I can help you with.

    You may mail me direct if you wish to.

  15. It was all to do with money. Paramount were demanding a 'bigger slice of the cake' and ABC said no. Paramount's biggie at the time was 'Paint Your Wagon' and this meant it was booked into smaller circuit cinemas - in Sheffield it was first shown at Studio 7. Paramount soon saw that they were the losers and went back to ABC more or less on the same terms.

    Ah! ....I see. I often wondered why Studio 7 got to show such a big hit movie like this one, rather than the ABC.

    What was it ? ............... a case of a "New broom" thinking that they knew better than everyone else, and soon finding out that they didn't !

    How many times have we seen that happen ?

    Studio 7 were laughing all the way to the bank anyway. "Paint Your Wagon" had a hugely successful eight week run there - from April 4th to May 29th, 1971.

    Was it really shown in 70mm there?

    I only saw it at the Astoria, in London, where it definitely was in 70mm, and I remember that the sound was absolutely fantastic.

  16. Bravo and thankyou again for those adverts again, S24. I hope you get the opportunity to post lots more :rolleyes:

    **Regarding Cliff Richard and the Shadows at Blackpool a few posts ago. The Britishpathe site has a lot of stuff on everything not indexed, since in some cases only the actual title gives the lead. Britishpathe newsreel number 43356 has a feature on the then new ABC Blackpool and the Cliff Richard summer show(s) Indoors too! (In at 05.23 mins approx)

    I also have a rare loose-leaf photo (i.e an A4 copy from a library book) of the new ABC Blackpool in its construction where on the outside of the building it says the ABC is about to become a theatre and cinema with a Cinerama screen!

    Thanks for telling us about that Blackpool clip Funky...very interesting - and nostalgic.

    I don't know if the ABC Blackpool ever did get a Cinerama size screen (I don't think it did ?), but the re-vamped Sheffield Gaumont 1 did, when it re-opened in July, 1969, with "Ice Station Zebra".

    Although billed as Cinerama, this movie ( and many other subsequent ones shown here ) were not made in real, three strip Cinerama, but single strip, 70mm prints.

    Still a very impressive image, but nowhere near as "all encompassing" as Cinerama proper.

    Sheffield did get real Cinerama - for three months at least - in the Spring of 1965.

    Early in 1964, a company named Itinerama set up a touring Cinerama theatre - on the lines of a large circus tent, and this appeared in major cities around the UK between April, 1964 and late 1967.

    It pitched up in Sheffield in February, 1965, on a site at the end of Devonshire Street, on what is today Devonshire Green.

    Four of the original five Cinerama feature films were shown - starting with "This is Cinerama", then "Cinerama Holiday", "Seven Wonders of the World" and finally "South Seas Adventure" -

    closing on the 9th May, 1965. (I don't know why they didn't have a print of the fourth one - "Search for Paradise" ?).

    It was the real mcCoy, with a gigantic curved screen and full 6 track stereophonic sound. It was just like a real cinema, with comfortable seats.

    We went three times, and, of course! ....I still have some of the ticket stubs.

    The Sheffield ticket stubs........

    A flyer for the Leeds engagement, towards the end of the tour. By this time, you can see that they had aquired a print of "How the West Was Won"

    which, by now had finished it's original two and a half year run at the London Casino Cinerama.

  17. Regarding the choice of opening film for the 'new' ABC in 1961.

    Richard Todd had by then become a 'celebrity spokesperson' for the ABC Circuit attending re-opening nights here and there as various cinemas became redeveloped.

    Here's RT opening the revamped ABC Preston, only a year or so earlier www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=75399.

    So logically therefore, "Dont Bother to Knock" was the chosen premiere presentation?

    That's an interesting clip that I hadn't seen before.

    Looking at that clip, our ABC was much nicer than Preston's ....don't you think?

    They had a much better opener than us though. "The Reluctant Debutante" was (and is) a much better film than "Don't Bother to Knock" !

    If you look at the ad for "Don't Bother to Knock", you can see that Richard Todd put his own money into it, for it's billed as a "RIchard Todd - Hailywood Production".

    Pity the finished product didn't turn out as well as he'd obviously intended it to be!

    I always liked him though, and he did turn out many fine films during his long career.

  18. Thanks for that S24. Haven't seen these clips for years. Reg Helley went on from Sheffield ABC in later years to become the driving force in charge of the ABC Cinema Circuits ABC Minors Saturday Morning Matinees for Children and I met him on many occasions. Sheffield ABC was the first cinema to stage a Children's Film Festival (1969 or 1970 I think was the year as I was still a projectionist there). I did recently manage to get a copy of 'Don't Bother To Knock' on DVD and I have to admit it was not really a worthy film to open such a magnificent new cinema. As you say, 'Ben Hur' which was shown there later would certainly have been the one to go for.

    I remember Reg Helley too, although i only ever met him as a customer. He was always friendly and always said hello when he saw regular faces coming in.

    He was a good showman too, and the theatre was always "well dressed" for those big occasions.

    It's such a shame that this beautiful theatre ended up in the hands of such a ruthless assett stripper !

  19. Great to see these old adds again.Well done & thanks.

    I'm glad they are of interest to you.

    Here are some pieces from the Star you might like, regarding the opening of Sheffield's ABC in May, 1961.

    I'm sorry the quality isn't better, but, it's the best i've got.

    It's a pity that they couldn't have found a more auspicious film than "Don't Bother to Knock" to open such a beautiful cinema with.

    I don't think it's been seen much since then, has it? I don't think it even turns up on Tv ???

    "Ben-Hur" would have been a much better choice!

    Hope you can read them........

  20. THATS IT !!!!!


    Look back at my post #82 in this thread.

    Thursday 15th February 1962 was the date of the Sheffield gale.

    That was the showing of "The Young Ones" that my cousin took me to see.

    There may have been an extra showing that day as it was a place to take all the homeless and evacuated kids out of the way and cheer them up a bit and take their minds off the chaos back at home.

    I seem to remember that this particular trip to the cinema, as well as being a treat and in the aftermath of the gale was supposed to be "something special"

    Alas, I didn't get to go and see Cliff and the Shads at the City Hall though.

    Well ! .....what do you know Dave ?

    I hadn't connected that date with the Great Sheffield Gale - but yes, you're right. That was the date.

    I wonder if Cliff and the Shads were windswept ? lol

    The ad for the concert was at the bottom of the page I have, and part of it is missing.

    But, here it is anyway.............