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  1. On Sunday 3rd October 2010 it will be exactly 45 years since 'THE SOUND OF MUSIC' started its 16 month run at the Sheffield Flat Street Odeon.

    Where HAVE all those years gone.

    It doesn't seem possible, does it Ab ??? Where indeed did 45 years go ??

    It seems like only yesterday that I first saw it at the Odeon. I can remember the front of house displays, the programme sellers,etc,etc.

    If you're a fan, you may like to treat yourself to the new 45th Anniversary "Sound of Music" Gift Box from Amazon.

    This is due out next month (in the USA) and as well as the movie on Blu-Ray, you also get a repro of the original Souvenir Brochure (which I still have anyway!), several doccumentaries, postcards, a full colour hard-back book and a musical box that plays "My Favourite Things"

    Go on - spoil yourself !

    Just for the record, the other films showing in Sheffield that week were:

    "Darling" - at the A.B.C

    "What's New Pussycat?" - at the Gaumont

    ...and a double bill at the Classic

    By the way, next Sunday - October 10th is the 45th Anniversary of the Sheffield Premiere of the other big musical of that year - "My Fair Lady".

    It ran at the A.B.C. for 12 weeks, until January 1st, 1966.

    Everyone expected this movie to be the one that did the business that "Sound of Music" ended up doing, and Jack Warner was more than a little miffed when it didn't!

    It was still a big, popular hit though and made a lot of money for Warners.

    But 20th Century Fox made a whole heap more !

    MY F L SH AD0001.bmp


  2. Walt Disney's version of Robin Hood :blink:

    I thought Robin Hood in this version was played by a cartoon fox!

    Or am I thinking of something else? :unsure:

    The "something else" you're thinking of Dave is the awful cartoon version which the Disney organization released in 1973, long after the death of Uncle Walt.

    It was part of the long decline in quality of the Disney product, which wasn't halted until 1989 with the release of "The Little Mermaid", and after that - "Beauty and the Beast" and "Aladdin"

    .

    The Richard Todd Robin was re-issued several times, and returned to Sheffield later in the 50's, the 60's and 70's.

    It doesn't turn up on TV very often, but it is now available on DVD in the States.


  3. Ha ha very good. Yes, roses have never been cheap. It also meant my sister got two complimentary tickets to see the film. Working at the ABC, I got in free anyway - perks of the job you know.

    Hmmmm ! - alright for some eh ? I always had to pay !

    I was in Leicester Square, the night of "Oliver!"'s World Premiere, at the Odeon - Thursday, September 26th, 1968.

    I didn't have tickets for that performance, but I did go the very next night.

    I remember that Princess Margaret and Tony Armstrong-Jones were the Royals in attendance.

    Also there were most of the film's cast : Ron Moody, Shani Wallace, Oliver Reed, Mark Lester, Jack Wild,etc, along with Lionel Bart himself,

    who came out looking as pleased as punch in his big, black fedora!

    Harold Wilson and Mary were there too, along with Douglas Fairbanks, Lulu .....and many others, who I can't quite remember right now, without looking them up !.

    I did see it again when it arrived at our Odeon in Sheffield.

    And, of course, I still have the ticket stubs ...........


  4. Another Australian.

    Like I said in the earlier post, it just isn't good enough to have an Australian playing an English hero. :angry:

    So the Real Robin Hood, given his English pedigree, has to be Richard Greene lol

    Well! Before Richard Greene ................. there was Richard Todd - in Walt Disney's excellent 1952 version of the story.

    For me, this is the next best screen version of "Robin Hood" after Flynn's, and still stands up very well today.

    The supporting cast are terriffic too, with James Hayter being a stand-out as Friar Tuck .......long before he took up with Mr. Kipling !


  5. Display of stills & hanging cards for 'Oliver' at the Sheffield Odeon December 1968

    Nice photo Ab.

    Was this taken in the foyer of the Odeon ?

    "Oliver!" was the last of the Odeon's "Epic" Road Show presentations. It opened on December 22nd, 1968 and ran there until March 8th, 1969......11 weeks in all.

    When the re-vamped, twinned Gaumonts opened in July, 1969, the two cinemas' roles were reversed - with the Gaumont taking the prestige, long run Road Shows,

    and the Odeon getting the run-of-the-mill, weekly stuff.

    Poor old Odeon ! Thirteen years loyal service and suddenly it's "move over, for the new kid on the block !"


  6. If I remember correctly, Frys chocolate was quite a dark chocolate and it contained a white cream.

    There was also a variation with coloured / flavoured creams where each of the 5 pieces was a different colour / flavour inside.

    "Fry's Chocolate Cream" was the minty one in the blue wrapper -see 1960's jigsaw above.

    The fruity one was "Fry's 5 Center" - see 1950's jigsaw above.

    Both delicious !


  7. Whoahhhh!!!....what a mouth watering topic!

    So many memories of long lost favourites.

    If you want to obtain some more permament memories of your favourite sweety blasts from the past,

    you might like to tuck into one of these very tasty jigsaws.

    I bought a couple from the Jigsaw Shop in Meadowhall recently, and they are also available from John Lewis.

    A NUX bar anyone ?

    Enjoy !...........


  8. Thanks again, S24. In relation to Cinerama Topcities specifically I will mail you directly later in the week or as soonest I can get a reply back from America. At this moment, the proprietor could be away on what the Americans call "vacation" (My first cousin is American and I get endless fun out of her by making of mirth out of American terminology......).

    In the meantime, here's a later example of how Cinerama brought a dazzle to British cinemagoing some 40/50 years ago which maybe younger members on the forum may not realise makes all this HD presentation nowadays sound very old-fashioned! And also a link to the aforementioned American site that puts Sheffield up there with the utmost in presentation...

    Link .. www.cinerama.topcities.com

    Ok funky. I look forward to hearing from you. I have some original London flyers for Cinerama that don't seem to be on that website.

    Gaumont 1 was a beautiful cinema, but I still prefer our ABC and the Odeon. Their 70mm presentation was always up there with the best of 'em !

    I also never much cared for "Song of Norway", even though it comes in as Sheffield's joint fourth longest running film.


  9. The building is still there just up from the North Pier but since closing as a cinema it seems to have been several different clubs. The Princess was never twinned or tripled as this fate fell to the (new) ABC Theatre on Church Street which was tripled in 1981 thus ending all stage shows.The Princess was closed as a cinema at this time. The ABC on Church Street closed in 2000 and it too is now a club called the Syndicate - but it is a high class place. Photos of the former ABC Princess as 'The Waterfront' and ABC Theatre as 'The Syndicate.

    Thanks for the photos AB.

    Not exactly an improvement on the originals, are they ?


  10. Yes, Studio 7 definitely showed 'Paint Your Wagon' in 70mm although I didn't see it there. I first saw it at the ABC Princess in Blackpool in 70mm who ran it for the summer season in 1969 - this was during the period when ABC were not playing Paramount films but Blackpool ABC Princess was allowed to show it for some reason and then I saw it again in 70mm at the ABC Doncaster when Paramount backed down and returned to ABC.

    Is the ABC Princess still there in Blackpool, AB ?

    It's funny, isn't it ?....."Paint Your Wagon" was a huge hit here in the UK, even giving Lee Marvin a long running No 1 hit with "Wandrin' Star" , but it flopped in the States.

    There's just no accounting for taste !


  11. Many, many thanks S24. I think my profile on here mentions that Cinerama is a major route for me researching your region. I'm a lead contributor to the international Cinerama site www.cinerama.topcities.com and nearly all the UK London and birmingham ads on there are from my own collection

    May I ask if I can mention this posting to the proprietor of CineramaTopcities in America please; and also may we ask for a direct link to your posting? Maybe one of the Supervisors on here can explain how thats done please.

    I'm glad that the Cinerama info was of interest to you funky.

    There was (and is!) always something special about Cinerama, wasn't there ?

    Sure you can mention my posting to Cinerama Topcities in America, Let me know if there is anything else that I can help you with.

    You may mail me direct if you wish to.


  12. It was all to do with money. Paramount were demanding a 'bigger slice of the cake' and ABC said no. Paramount's biggie at the time was 'Paint Your Wagon' and this meant it was booked into smaller circuit cinemas - in Sheffield it was first shown at Studio 7. Paramount soon saw that they were the losers and went back to ABC more or less on the same terms.

    Ah! ....I see. I often wondered why Studio 7 got to show such a big hit movie like this one, rather than the ABC.

    What was it ? ............... a case of a "New broom" thinking that they knew better than everyone else, and soon finding out that they didn't !

    How many times have we seen that happen ?

    Studio 7 were laughing all the way to the bank anyway. "Paint Your Wagon" had a hugely successful eight week run there - from April 4th to May 29th, 1971.

    Was it really shown in 70mm there?

    I only saw it at the Astoria, in London, where it definitely was in 70mm, and I remember that the sound was absolutely fantastic.


  13. Bravo and thankyou again for those adverts again, S24. I hope you get the opportunity to post lots more :rolleyes:

    **Regarding Cliff Richard and the Shadows at Blackpool a few posts ago. The Britishpathe site has a lot of stuff on everything not indexed, since in some cases only the actual title gives the lead. Britishpathe newsreel number 43356 has a feature on the then new ABC Blackpool and the Cliff Richard summer show(s) Indoors too! (In at 05.23 mins approx)

    I also have a rare loose-leaf photo (i.e an A4 copy from a library book) of the new ABC Blackpool in its construction where on the outside of the building it says the ABC is about to become a theatre and cinema with a Cinerama screen!

    Thanks for telling us about that Blackpool clip Funky...very interesting - and nostalgic.

    I don't know if the ABC Blackpool ever did get a Cinerama size screen (I don't think it did ?), but the re-vamped Sheffield Gaumont 1 did, when it re-opened in July, 1969, with "Ice Station Zebra".

    Although billed as Cinerama, this movie ( and many other subsequent ones shown here ) were not made in real, three strip Cinerama, but single strip, 70mm prints.

    Still a very impressive image, but nowhere near as "all encompassing" as Cinerama proper.

    Sheffield did get real Cinerama - for three months at least - in the Spring of 1965.

    Early in 1964, a company named Itinerama set up a touring Cinerama theatre - on the lines of a large circus tent, and this appeared in major cities around the UK between April, 1964 and late 1967.

    It pitched up in Sheffield in February, 1965, on a site at the end of Devonshire Street, on what is today Devonshire Green.

    Four of the original five Cinerama feature films were shown - starting with "This is Cinerama", then "Cinerama Holiday", "Seven Wonders of the World" and finally "South Seas Adventure" -

    closing on the 9th May, 1965. (I don't know why they didn't have a print of the fourth one - "Search for Paradise" ?).

    It was the real mcCoy, with a gigantic curved screen and full 6 track stereophonic sound. It was just like a real cinema, with comfortable seats.

    We went three times, and, of course! ....I still have some of the ticket stubs.

    The Sheffield ticket stubs........

    A flyer for the Leeds engagement, towards the end of the tour. By this time, you can see that they had aquired a print of "How the West Was Won"

    which, by now had finished it's original two and a half year run at the London Casino Cinerama.


  14. Regarding the choice of opening film for the 'new' ABC in 1961.

    Richard Todd had by then become a 'celebrity spokesperson' for the ABC Circuit attending re-opening nights here and there as various cinemas became redeveloped.

    Here's RT opening the revamped ABC Preston, only a year or so earlier www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=75399.

    So logically therefore, "Dont Bother to Knock" was the chosen premiere presentation?

    That's an interesting clip that I hadn't seen before.

    Looking at that clip, our ABC was much nicer than Preston's ....don't you think?

    They had a much better opener than us though. "The Reluctant Debutante" was (and is) a much better film than "Don't Bother to Knock" !

    If you look at the ad for "Don't Bother to Knock", you can see that Richard Todd put his own money into it, for it's billed as a "RIchard Todd - Hailywood Production".

    Pity the finished product didn't turn out as well as he'd obviously intended it to be!

    I always liked him though, and he did turn out many fine films during his long career.


  15. Thanks for that S24. Haven't seen these clips for years. Reg Helley went on from Sheffield ABC in later years to become the driving force in charge of the ABC Cinema Circuits ABC Minors Saturday Morning Matinees for Children and I met him on many occasions. Sheffield ABC was the first cinema to stage a Children's Film Festival (1969 or 1970 I think was the year as I was still a projectionist there). I did recently manage to get a copy of 'Don't Bother To Knock' on DVD and I have to admit it was not really a worthy film to open such a magnificent new cinema. As you say, 'Ben Hur' which was shown there later would certainly have been the one to go for.

    I remember Reg Helley too, although i only ever met him as a customer. He was always friendly and always said hello when he saw regular faces coming in.

    He was a good showman too, and the theatre was always "well dressed" for those big occasions.

    It's such a shame that this beautiful theatre ended up in the hands of such a ruthless assett stripper !


  16. Great to see these old adds again.Well done & thanks.

    I'm glad they are of interest to you.

    Here are some pieces from the Star you might like, regarding the opening of Sheffield's ABC in May, 1961.

    I'm sorry the quality isn't better, but, it's the best i've got.

    It's a pity that they couldn't have found a more auspicious film than "Don't Bother to Knock" to open such a beautiful cinema with.

    I don't think it's been seen much since then, has it? I don't think it even turns up on Tv ???

    "Ben-Hur" would have been a much better choice!

    Hope you can read them........


  17. THATS IT !!!!!

    FANTASTIC WORK S24

    Look back at my post #82 in this thread.

    Thursday 15th February 1962 was the date of the Sheffield gale.

    That was the showing of "The Young Ones" that my cousin took me to see.

    There may have been an extra showing that day as it was a place to take all the homeless and evacuated kids out of the way and cheer them up a bit and take their minds off the chaos back at home.

    I seem to remember that this particular trip to the cinema, as well as being a treat and in the aftermath of the gale was supposed to be "something special"

    Alas, I didn't get to go and see Cliff and the Shads at the City Hall though.

    Well ! .....what do you know Dave ?

    I hadn't connected that date with the Great Sheffield Gale - but yes, you're right. That was the date.

    I wonder if Cliff and the Shads were windswept ? lol

    The ad for the concert was at the bottom of the page I have, and part of it is missing.

    But, here it is anyway.............


  18. Once Billy Graham realised that a big name like Cliff was "in the fold", he wasted no time in getting him to further the cause.

    "Two a Penny" was financed by Graham's organisation - World Wide Pictures, and featured extensive footage of his 1967 London Crusade at Earl's Court.

    It turned up in Sheffield at Studio 7 (of all places!), and was really quite good.

    I had been to see "The Taming of the Shrew" the week before (Sept, 68), and was intrigued by the trailer for "Two a Penny"....so I went.

    Looks like I was wrong about "Taming of the Shrew", because that played at Studio 7 in Aug/ Sept, 1967.

    Maybe it was the other Zefferelli/Shakespeare - "Romeo & Juliet" ? I don't have the relevant info to hand right now.

    Anyhow, I saw the trailer for "Two a Penny" with something at Studio 7 - and, as that film had premiered in London on 20th June, 1968,

    it must have reached Sheffield sometime in August/Sept ?

    We've been decorating recently and i've been unable to get into the cupboard where a lot of my stuff is stored.

    However, I finally managed to get in there this afternoon and retrieved my files.

    So - i'm posting here the ads with relevance to Sheffield cinemas that I wanted to post earlier...... for some of the films we've been talking about in the threads above.

    By the way - something I noticed today whilst getting these ads..........

    On Thursday, February 15th, 1962 - you could have gone to see "The Young Ones" at the ABC in the afternoon - and, in the evening,

    you could have gone to the City Hall to see Cliff and the Shads live in concert. How many of you did ??????

    Held over for 3 weeks

    Held over for 4 weeks

    Held over for 3 weeks

    Cliff vs. The Beatles

    Held over for 3 weeks

    The return of Cliff....

    London opening.....


  19. Cliff APPEARED, with Billy Graham in his next film, a social-dramatic piece, "Two a Penny" although there doesn't seem to be a scene with both in simultaneously.

    Once Billy Graham realised that a big name like Cliff was "in the fold", he wasted no time in getting him to further the cause.

    "Two a Penny" was financed by Graham's organisation - World Wide Pictures, and featured extensive footage of his 1967 London Crusade at Earl's Court.

    It turned up in Sheffield at Studio 7 (of all places!), and was really quite good.

    I had been to see "The Taming of the Shrew" the week before (Sept, 68), and was intrigued by the trailer for "Two a Penny"....so I went.

    Cliff wasn't over convincing as a drug pushing thug (how could he be?), but....full marks for effort. Dora Bryan was excellent as his mother though.

    It was all about Cliff getting dragged along to one of Billy Graham's meetings by his girlfriend and, eventually "seeing the light".

    When I was doing my data base for Sheffield cinemas, I didn't keep a full record for The Wicker / Studio 7 as most of the films shown there were cheapo sex,

    or horror movies.

    However, there was a period in the late 60's when they started to get first runs of some prestige movies.....

    due mostly to the tying up of the Odeon for nearly 18 months by "The Sound of Music".

    Things like "A Man for all Seasons", "The Taming of the Shrew", "The Thomas Crown Affair", "Romeo & Juliet" and "Paint Your Wagon" all had good runs there.

    I don't have the exact dates, so I didn't include them in my longest running list.

    I really should do, I guess, because "Taming of the Shrew" ran for 6 weeks and "Man for all Seasons" for 7 weeks.

    I must do an update.

    The LP from the film. The girl involved was Ann Holloway.


  20. Well. just as in "The Young Ones it co stars Robert Morley

    ..but the attractive Carole Gray has been replaced with...Peggy Mount :blink:

    Wasn't she the dragon out of the TV series "George and the Dragon", George being played by Syd James.

    Yes....she was Dave. Voice like a foghorn !

    But - don't worry. She wasn't Cliff''s love interest in the film.

    That was Viviane Ventura.......who later went steady with the Sultan of Brunei. And he's got even more money than Cliff ! lol


  21. Cliff, accompanied by The Shadows naturally, had one more movie musical extravaganza to come: "Finders Keepers", a United Artists release which had its opening night (no proper premiere as far as one can tell) on December 8, 1966, at the Odeon, Leicester Square, London. Well considered by many to have made the series past its sell-by date.

    I remember that "Finders Keepers" sort of - crept up, unannounced!

    It had been over two years since his last film "Wonderful Life", and, for me at any rate, Cliff was going through quite a fallow period in his career

    and hadn;t been in the limelight as much as he had been before the Beatles,etc..

    I think he had been off, finding Christianity, with Billy Graham?

    This movie was not as big an extravaganza as the three he made for ABC

    This one was more a story with a few songs thrown in, and was based on an actual event that had happened a short time before.

    That was when America had accidently dropped (and lost!) a large bomb out of a plane, somewhere over Spain...... I think they did eventually find it ?

    So.....what a perfect premise for a Cliff Richard movie !

    It did feature the hit song "Time Drags By", which he did with the Shads, and it played for one week at the Sheffield Gaumont - w/c January 22nd, 1967.

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