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  1. On 08/07/2019 at 21:45, Heartshome said:

    Hi johnm, yes, I remember reading your write-up about the Sharrow Vale Chapel building 2012. Around that time there seems to have been a bit of a debate, between other people as to if it was that one, or one from another location. Personally, I can't see that it makes any difference where they came from, the important thing is they were re-used for a good purpose, and the enjoyment of many. To my knowledge here have been 4 constructions in that area over time, and our understanding is that the one in place today, was the old wooden Walkley Methodist Hall, delivered by horse and cart to the Forge.

    Hi Heartshome, I guess you are right. I have looked again at a picture of the cafe & it does have a tin roof but looks as though sides are wood  - if it had been a tin chapel the sides would have been tin too.


  2. Its my understanding that the tea room was  originally a "Tin Tabernacle" erected  in 1886 as the Sharrow Vale Wesleyan Reform Church. In 1902 it was replaced by a new building on the same site which is still in use. I am told  The Tin Tabernacle was moved sometime after that to the Forge Dam site.


  3. I used to go there a lot trainspotting from about 1953 & have no recollection of any buildings beyond the Gas Works. What is shown as  Holywell Rd  appears to stopsust past the Gas Works but from my earliest memories it carried on right to where Limpsfield Rd meets it. So I think what is shown as Chemical Works must have gone  by 1950 or so.


  4. Here is a photo of my grandad Harry Watson Moore (4th from left) in teh Sir John  Drake Lodge which according to an earlier entry on here met at teh Wellington Hotel, Grimesthorpe Road. Harry worked at Firth Browns as a plater/driller & lived at 305 Petre Street. Does anyone know exactly where teh Wellington Hotel was please? Also any other details about teh Lodge & its members?

    Thanks, John

    Grandad Harry W Moore in Buffs  late 1930's.jpg


  5. On 13/03/2013 at 21:27, lysander said:

    My great uncle Walter was a Captain in the Boys Brigade at All Saints before WW2 and I was in both the Life Boys and Brigade at Firth Park Methodist's ( 54th from memory) I also remember Spencer's the butchers and John and his sister and , of course, Ben Wing.

    Hi lysander, My dad was in 15th at All Saints through both  Life Boys & BB - he lived on Petre St.  He left there when he reached age limit & there was no room for him as officer so he weent to Reform Chapel to help start 53rd BB.  I remember him going back to a service there when they "laid up" the BB colours following closure. The 15th was one of teh oldest companies in Sheffield & Walter was weell known You will be surprised to know that there are now 2 BB companies at Firth park Methodist  - the 54th plus 23rd captained by Barrie Trigg ( originally on Beck Rd) which moved there a few years ago. They both function well I understand.


  6. My 2x gt grandad John King was killed age 25 along with 3 others on night of 11th March 1864 whilst working a night shift at Shaw & Co's Wire Mill at Damflask.  Here are  photos taken day after of Wire Mill & dam . You can see that if the men had been at the back of the mill they may have survived.

    Dale Dyke dam breach from inside.jpg

    Dale Dyke dam day after flood.jpg

    Shaw's Wire Mill view from downstream.jpg

    shaws wire mill where John King killed.jpg

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  7. 14 hours ago, boginspro said:

    Thanks  johnm ,   I could only find it referred to as Sellers Street. I knew the area quite well many years ago having lived not far away as a kid in the 50's and visited family round there for years after that. I also worked not far away in the 60's.

    I may be wrong but I think your Grandads house would have been relatively new at  that date, I believe that area was only developed in the late 19th century.

    Back to the medallion, Wesleyan was also one of the first W's that sprang to my mind, I seem to remember you mentioning previously your family having been associated with Wesleyan Chapels.

     

    Thanks Boginspro. Yes family was heavily involved in  Wesleyan Reform Church. Both his dad & uncle were local preachers at a Wesleyan Methodist church (don't know which one) when they moved to Sheffield from Nottinghamshire about 1863   but in 1876 joined Ebenezer Brammall lane Wesleyan Reform Church when it was built.

     The medallion is gold & that suggests the Club was one which was well established & had resources. That's why I wondered if it was Exchange CC as I know from press reports it isssued gold medallions to players in 1902 although in all resports it's referred to simply as Exchange CC which doesn't really fit with EWSCC.

    Probably I won't find the answer with any certainty although Edmund has a psossible with Ellesmere Wesleyan Sunday CC which could fit although did they issue gold medallions ?  I will  check presss reports for them.

    Many thanks to both you & Edmund .


  8. 17 hours ago, Edmund said:

    How about:

    Ebenezer Wesleyan (Sunday) School Cricket Club (various locations)

    Ellesmere (Road) Wesleyan (Sunday) School Cricket Club (Pitsmoor)

    Endcliffe Wesleyan (Sunday) School Cricket Club (but only started in 1904)

    I believe that all these clubs did exist, though their names were fluid.  Was Mr Morris living near any of them?

    Thanks Edmund. William was the first Secretary of the Ebenezer Wesleyan Reform (Bramall lane)  Cricket Club but it was only formed in 1906 .  He had attended there with his family from being a child & was only 18 in 1902 when he won the batting prize.  I guess his dad must have been a cricketer but have no evidence of that. His dad was a Wesleyan Reform local preacher so it may be that he sent William to Ellesmere to play  cricket although it was a distance from where he lived. Endcliffe would have fitted perfectly if it had started earlier !

     


  9. Hi boginspro . .having looked at street directories  I think Sellers Rd & Sellers St are the same . In the 1901 census its down at Sellers Street & is off Aizlewood Rd but a later map shows the same as Sellers Road. It runds parallel to twon end of Abbeydale Rd .

    The only possibility I have come across is that there was an Exchange Cricket Club functioning in  Sheffield at the time he won the medallion. I think it had a ground at Park Hill Lane.


  10. My Grandad William Morris had the gold medalion below on his pocket watch chain.Its hsows he won the batting prize at EWSCC (ie EWS Cricket Club) for season 1902  at the age of 18. IN 191 he was working as a heating  engineer & lived at 61 Sellers Rd. Between then & 1911 he went to work at Sheffield Gas Company as a gas fitter .

    Doieds anyone know please what Club EWSCC was ?

    Thanks, John

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  11. It seems surprising but back  in the 1930's & 1940's , apart from cinemas , chapels & churches were the centre of most  social activity. As well as weekily activities many put on  a show each year such as light  opera (Gilbert & Sullivan) . My family attended Grimesthorpe Wesleyan Reform Chapel & the photos show productions of HMS Pinafore & Iolanthe probably taken 1930's wirh my mum in dad Jim & Marjorie Moore (nee Morris) in them. THe standard of these shows was quite hight too.. In the 1950's & 1960 there was an active youth club there who put on shows too.

    GWRC hms pinafore with mum & dad  late 1930s.jpg

    GWRC Iolanthe probably Les Cusworth Jim Moore Ken Morris late 1930s.jpg

    GWRC late 1930s mum & dad.jpg

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