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    Butchers in the 1950s

    Spencers Butchers at Firth Park was great. My school mate John Spencer worked there with his dad after he left school. His son worked there too for a time before it closed when John died I think.
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    Damflask

    Thanks Edmund - thats great !
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    Damflask

    My 2x gt grandad John King was killed age 25 along with 3 others on night of 11th March 1864 whilst working a night shift at Shaw & Co's Wire Mill at Damflask. Here are photos taken day after of Wire Mill & dam . You can see that if the men had been at the back of the mill they may have survived.
  4. My Grandad William Morris had the gold medalion below on his pocket watch chain.Its hsows he won the batting prize at EWSCC (ie EWS Cricket Club) for season 1902 at the age of 18. IN 191 he was working as a heating engineer & lived at 61 Sellers Rd. Between then & 1911 he went to work at Sheffield Gas Company as a gas fitter . Doieds anyone know please what Club EWSCC was ? Thanks, John
  5. Thanks Boginspro. Yes family was heavily involved in Wesleyan Reform Church. Both his dad & uncle were local preachers at a Wesleyan Methodist church (don't know which one) when they moved to Sheffield from Nottinghamshire about 1863 but in 1876 joined Ebenezer Brammall lane Wesleyan Reform Church when it was built. The medallion is gold & that suggests the Club was one which was well established & had resources. That's why I wondered if it was Exchange CC as I know from press reports it isssued gold medallions to players in 1902 although in all resports it's referred to simply as Exchange CC which doesn't really fit with EWSCC. Probably I won't find the answer with any certainty although Edmund has a psossible with Ellesmere Wesleyan Sunday CC which could fit although did they issue gold medallions ? I will check presss reports for them. Many thanks to both you & Edmund .
  6. Thanks Edmund. William was the first Secretary of the Ebenezer Wesleyan Reform (Bramall lane) Cricket Club but it was only formed in 1906 . He had attended there with his family from being a child & was only 18 in 1902 when he won the batting prize. I guess his dad must have been a cricketer but have no evidence of that. His dad was a Wesleyan Reform local preacher so it may be that he sent William to Ellesmere to play cricket although it was a distance from where he lived. Endcliffe would have fitted perfectly if it had started earlier !
  7. Hi boginspro . .having looked at street directories I think Sellers Rd & Sellers St are the same . In the 1901 census its down at Sellers Street & is off Aizlewood Rd but a later map shows the same as Sellers Road. It runds parallel to twon end of Abbeydale Rd . The only possibility I have come across is that there was an Exchange Cricket Club functioning in Sheffield at the time he won the medallion. I think it had a ground at Park Hill Lane.
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    Walter Ellis, Publican - killed by a tram

    The Local Studies library has old Sheffield newspapers which may have something in about his accident see https://www.sheffield.gov.uk/home/libraries-archives/access-archives-local-studies-library.html
  9. I remember in the 1950's going with my Uncle on that route to Tintwhisle in the Longdendale Valley . He was taking a Sunday School Anniversary service at the chapel there. Its was a great trip via Woodhead & the valleys beyond.
  10. Wonderful times at the City Hall ballroom early 1969's ! It was the best ballroom floor in Sheffield with wonderful springing. When we were 18 years old we graduated to The Locarno which was a great venue too.
  11. It seems surprising but back in the 1930's & 1940's , apart from cinemas , chapels & churches were the centre of most social activity. As well as weekily activities many put on a show each year such as light opera (Gilbert & Sullivan) . My family attended Grimesthorpe Wesleyan Reform Chapel & the photos show productions of HMS Pinafore & Iolanthe probably taken 1930's wirh my mum in dad Jim & Marjorie Moore (nee Morris) in them. THe standard of these shows was quite hight too.. In the 1950's & 1960 there was an active youth club there who put on shows too.
  12. There are 2 photos of the chapel on Picture Sheffield http://www.picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;s02140&pos=1&action=zoom&id=5908 http://www.picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;s02140&action=zoom&pos=1&id=5908&continueUrl=
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    Beer and steelworks

    I worked at ESC from 1960 until the Siemens furnaces were closed about 1962 or 1963 when the Arc plant was opened. It was the job of one of the furnace team (3rd hand I think) to go to The Wellington pub on the corner for the beer. He took a large plastic container which would contain around 2 or 3 gallons of beer I think. This was allowed as the men used it to replace the liquid they lost sweating. By the mid 60's salt tablets were supplied instead of beer !! I worked in research & we had a small furnace operated by an ex-melter who told me that when he was on the Siemens plant the beer he drunk at work & in the evening at home/pub could be up to 25 pints in a day !!
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    Anyone been to Malta?

    I have been but only for one day when on a cruise 2 years ago. Had a good trip round the island .I would certianly like to go again for a short visit. One of my friends worked there for 2 years on a desalination plant about 30 years ago - he loved it & always wanted to go back . He did so around 3 years ago but as expected it wasn't what he knew so was a bit disappointed.
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    Scarborough - Sheffield's favourite seaside town?

    I first went to Scarborough age 8 in 1952 although we actually stayed in a caravan at Wallis' camp at Cayton Bay. Here are some photos from that holiday. The caravans were fairly early versions. The bill for a 4 berth caravan (see photo ) was £20 3 shillings !! Have gone to Scarborough on & off ever since & now over 50 years later we go twice a year generally but now stay in a hotel!
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    J N O .Blyde Sheffield cutler

    Sheffield Indexers have a 1905 Directory entry; Blyde, John (, pen. pocket & table knives,scissors,razor manufts.). Address: Clintock Works 24 Milton Street, in 1905. Recorded in: White's Directory of Sheffield and Rotherham. I have also found this on the net: John Blyde, Clintock Works, Sheffield. A foundation date of 1841 is recorded in the trade literature for this company. John Blyde(1827-1899), a Sheffield-born scissor and surgical instrument manufacturer, was working at Norfolk Street Works, Norfolk Lane, in 1862. Ha may have been the son of James Blyde. By the 1870s, the address was Burgess Street, with John Blyde advertising surgical instruments, scissors, and trusses. The firm employed 27 workers in 1871. By 1883, the business had moved to Clintock Works, Milton Street. In directories in the 1880s, Blyde was described as a "Manufacturer of Fine Scissors, Pen, Pocket, and Table Knives; Razors, Horse Scrapes, Clipping Scissors, Singeing Lamps". John Blyde died "very suddenly" on 15 December 1899, aged 72. He was a Wesleyan Methodist. John Blyde's son, Arthur John Blyde(1857-19200, continued the business. According to local chronicler Henry Tatton, John Blyde's son, James, was remembered as the first man in Sheffield to drive a motor car. In 20th century, the business switched almost entirely to hand-forged surgical scissors. When A.J. Blyde died in 1920, his successors adopted limited liability and also took over Greenhough. The corporate mark was a picture of Saturn above the word "Genius", which was used on scissors and cutlery; and a picture of a golfer above the words, "Sure & Far", which was used on pen and pocket knives. A profile in Quality(March 1957) stated that it was the last surgical scissor house that could hand forge scissor of any description. In the 1970s, Blyde's was wound up. Hope this helps, John
  17. Any current or ex BB members on here? I was in 53rd at Grimesthorpe Wesleyan Reform Chapel as Life Boy then BB & officer until leaving Sheffield in 1976. Our company had an annual 2 week camp at St Helier Jersey where we stayed in an old church which was a youth club during winter. Here we are in 1960 & 1956. I
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    whit sunday customs in Sheffield

    Here I am on right with my next door but one friend Philip Nicholas in 1950 with our new Whit clothes. Its interesting to note that we didn't wear long trousers until we went to secondary school. Whit was a great time. I was in Boys Brigade at Grimesthorpe Reform Chapel & we had great parades in Whit Monday up to Firth Park for meeting then back. Some photos below taken 1952 (first & 3rd photo & 1961 second). I am on 1961 photto -side drummer at front on right. The crowds lining the route were really big . In afternoon we had games in Firth Park followed by a tea. Whit Tuesday was always a hike in Derbyshire. Great times!
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    The Sheffield Flood

    My 2 x gt granddad John KIng was killed in the flood. Malcolm Nunn of Bradfield is leading a couple of Flood Walks next weekend; I think he can be contacted at http://www.bradfield-yorks-pc.gov.uk/
  20. I remember the organ being played - probably only one in Sheffield then
  21. Can anyone please show me on a map where 108 Fitzalan St was in 1900 & was it nearer Burngreave end or Bridgehouses end? Thanks, John
  22. I lived near Firth Park & had a great time there on the slides & swings in the 1950's. Also at the pond near what was Firth Park library where we sailed our boats. When I was a bout 11 I fell through the ice into the pond & got home to be dumped into a hot bath! Firth Park also brings back memories of great Whit Monday marches up to the park with hundreds of people lining the route. In the afternoon we went up there for our Sunday School sports & afterwards back to Reform Chapel for tea.How sad that's all gone. Also played tennis there & occasionally bowls with my dad. Left Sheffield 1976 but come back a couple of times a year to see family & friends. Popped into the very nice café in Firth Park for coffee & a teacake 2 or 3 years ago.
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    Lunch and beers at The Sicey pub, Sheffield

    For quite a few years before it shut it was a really nice Beefeater pub. I used it a lot when visiting my mum at weekends after dad died.
  24. I was at ESC from 1960 to 1967. Up to around 1963 I don't think working hours & conditions would be significantly different from the 1930's. I recall we ( those on staff conditions) worked 8.30am to 5.30pm Monday to Friday. We had to clock in & out. Steelmaking was not a continuous process so steel plant workers would work Monday - Friday two 8 hour shifts per day , maybe Saturday if required. My first pay packet was £2 17 shillings & six pence. Prior to the early 1960's safety had a limited impact on operations. Manual operation of bar mills occasionally resulted in a man getting a red hot piece of bar through his leg! This changed when the new Tinsley Park automated bar mill was built in 1963 & overnight safety was vastly improved. People were killed in accidents from time to time in the steelmaking plant though particularly prior to the 1960's. Little safety equipment was used. On the Siemens furnaces which were used until they were replaced by electric arc furnaces about 1962, the 3rd hand would go to The Wellington pub every so often & bring back large plastic containers full of beer to prevent dehydration. I worked with an old steel melter & he mentioned drinking up to 24 pints a day including what he drunk at night. In the early 1960's beer was replaced by salt tablets. That might just give you some idea of what it was like.
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    Sheffield Records Office

    The Sheffield indexers site was set up b y a group of volunteers.. Most of the data on it has been transcribed by volunteers ( I did it for about 4 years) from information obtained from a variety of sources inc Sheffield Council for burial & school records etc. The webmaster is Elaine who now lives in Ottowa, Canada If you are interested in Family History do have a look at it. It contains a wealth of information. http://www.sheffieldindexers.com/
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