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Simon Greenwood

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About Simon Greenwood

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  • Birthday 02/09/1966

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  1. Mexborough is part of Doncaster so relevant records would be there. Ancestry.co.uk doesn't have a Geary in Mexborough in the phone books to 1984 so the only public record you might be able to find at the moment would be the register of voters. You could also try Doncaster and District Family History Society at http://www.doncasterfhs.co.uk/.
  2. This matches my query about my ancestors moving from the iron industry in the Forest of Dean to Sheffield. The Bessemer process probably lead to the growth of the steel industry as opposed to iron smelting and created the need for a new workforce that had experience in iron processing. This is all supposition but despite the development of inter-city train transport, mass transport within the cities was probably still sparse and beyond the reach of the new workers, so it made sense for the workers to live within walking distance of their places of work, which created districts such as Neepsend. Would this migration also give rise to the adage that you could once tell the streets that many Sheffielders lived on by their accents? It would make sense that incomers would cluster together in their own communities as well as work in the same factories, but that over time they would both dissipate into the general community and their dialects would blend with the local dialect while remaining sufficiently distinctive over the years. Someone *must* have done that study.
  3. Neither, that's what the seller has opened bidding at.
  4. I am tracing my family tree via ancestry.co.uk and have found that my paternal grandmother's family, name of Hancox. moved from the Forest of Dean in Gloucestershire to Sheffield in the 1870s, settling in Brightside Bierlow parish. I don't have much more information but I believe that the Forest of Dean had an iron industry so I assume that my great-great-great grandfather moved to work in the iron and steel industry in Sheffield. As it must have been a fair old journey in the 1870s, I assume that he wasn't the only one. Has anyone else traced their family back to the same area for the same reasons? Here's a bit more information: in 1881 my great-great-great grandfather George Hancox is listed in the census as being an Iron and Steel Forgeman and living at 26 Andover Street. In 1891 his son, my great-great grandfather Frederick Hancox is also an Iron forger, and all live at 127 Rock Street. In 1901 Frederick is married and lives on Fox Street. My Grandma lived on Wallace Road for most of her life. Are there employee lists for the steelworks in the area? That's probably quite a big list, as I can remember visiting my Grandma in the 70s and the bottom end of Wallace Road being still busy with small firms. I think it must be time to visit the library.
  5. I started having a look around this thread after seeing the programme about the history of mental health on BBC Four last night (17/05/10). This looked at High Royds in north Leeds, but its building is very much of the same design and is also currently undergoing renovation as flats and a new housing estate. However, my Uncle Wilf was resident at Middlewood from (I think) abut 1953 until the hospital closed and then in sheltered accommodation until his death last year. I've mentioned the circumstances before, in the Parkwood Springs thread: he went to the police to tell them that he had killed his mother and sisters, but when the police went around to their house, they were all alive and well. I only really met him a couple of times, most recently at my Grandma's funeral in 1981 and can remember that he looked very much like his mother and was very well spoken, like his brothers, including my father. After reading this thread, I'm starting to wonder if he wasn't Walter - my aunt visited him occasionally and I think I remember her telling me that he was calling himself that several years ago. Are there any pictures of Walter anywhere to confirm or deny this? He would have been about 80 when he died, having spent two thirds of his life in Middlewood.
  6. John Shuttleworth lives in Walkley and used to be a security guard at a sweet factory in the Rotherham area according to his biography. As well as the Shuttleworths, there's a full Jilted John LP called 'True Love Stories' and, as Graham Fellows. 'Love at the Hacienda' which is a lost classic post-punk LP that just happens to be quite funny.
  7. By all means. Indeed, if anyone else knows anything about the story I'd love to hear it - my aunts are still alive but I haven't seen them for a few years. I'm new to this site - is your history here?
  8. Yes, I found the photo several years ago, and I've tried to contact the site owner for a copy but he didn't reply. I haven't been to see the seat in Baslow but intend to do so soon. I once met someone from Baslow at university and asked if he knew Harry, and he did, so he was certainly well known in the 80s.
  9. That's my Grandma (just posted about that in the Parkwood Springs thread). Now, not to paint my family oddly in any way, but the mad axe man might have been my Uncle Wilf, who, according to family legend, went to the police in 195-something claiming to have killed his mother and sisters with an axe. The police went around to the house to find them alive and well. Uncle Wilf was placed in Middlewood Hospital and stayed there for the rest of his life, albeit in sheltered accommodation for the last ten years or so. He died in 2008, aged about 80. My Dad was evacuated to Hucknall, Nottinghamshire on Sept 3rd 1939 and didn't go back to Sheffield apart from the occasional visit. On at least one occasion he cycled, which must have been no mean feat during the war.
  10. Apropos of nothing, my Grandma and her sister both lived on Parkwood Springs, Grandma (Elsie Greenwood) at 107 Wallace Road (thanks to Neddy for posting the 1948 residents list in 2007) and Auntie Mabel (George Wragg) at 136 Farfield Road. They both pretty much lived there until demolition. My Grandma was moved to new flats on Glenholme Road S13 (think her postal address was Handsworth) and Auntie Mabel to Gleadless. As a kid in the 70s, we would visit Wallace Road regularily, and I was always amazed that Grandma had brought up seven children in a two up, two down house. I can remember seeing electric freight trains on the Woodhead Line and possibly passenger trains although I would have three when the last ones ran. The houses were in a poor state in the last few years - I can also remember my Dad pushing down an old dividing wall, possibly in one of the courts, to stop it collapsing when kids were playing on it - there were children of my age on the road just months before the bulldozers moved in. My Dad also had some of the radiators out of one of the pubs, either on Rutland Road or Douglas Road, that was demolished around 1976. They were still going strong when we sold the house in Doncaster in 2005.
  11. Were they off Parkgate Road? I have a very vague memory of prefabs up there.
  12. I've got a magazine/brochure that Hallam distributed when its broadcast area was extended to cover Doncaster and Barnsley in the late 70s/early 80s. I can also remember seeing the mobile studio at Battle of Britain Day at RAF Finningley in about 1978, with Ray Stewart doing his show - I need to find those things and scan them. I begged my Mum and Dad to take me to the studios in Hartshead when I was about 12 and we got into reception but at the time they couldn't find anyone to give us a tour. I think Tom Baker might have been in the studios that afternoon as well, but we came out with badges and other bits and bobs. Keith Skues is on BBC Norfolk these days and did a lightly deranged show on Friday nights in the early part of this decade - I can remember hearing it as it was driving back and forth between Bradford and London for a while and he could be heard along most of the length of the A1 because the show went out on the Eastern network. The show was a combination of rambling anecdotage and eccentric phone calls from across the east, and was as such really enjoyable - the sort of thing that Terry Wogan does nationally for considerably more money.
  13. The shop still seems to be there, but didn't it become a specialist shop dedicated to Prince later on? It's still called Revolution, which would of course still be relevant. However, I've also heard that there is/was a Prince shop in Ilkley of all places, and I'm sure there's not room for two in the same county!
  14. Hi all Harry Greenwood was my Dad's brother. I'm currently researching my family tree, and knew his history and indeed have some articles from the Star, including his obituary, but his celebrity has come as something of a surprise. In short, he, my Dad and his brothers and sisters were born in Wallace Road, Neepsend in the 1920s. Harry was good with electrical equipment and had his own shop (not sure where, but presumably in the same area). He was also something of a wanderer. He married a Greek woman in the late 40s/early 50s but after a few years decided that domestic life wasn't for him and went on the road. He would reappear at his mothers' and siblings' houses sporadically over the years and did seem to wander around the country. He returned to Derbyshire in the mid 80s, where my Dad ran into him in Baslow while on a walking trip. At first he denied who he was but then admitted and was quite pleased to be reunited. At that time he was living in a cave near the Robin Hood Inn, Chesterfield Road. My Dad took me to visit him and my memory is of a nut brown elderly man who looked the spitting image of my grandma, surrounded by bits of old electrical equipment - even if he'd left his old life, he'd kept in practice. He moved to Robin Hood's Cave a few years later, and my Mum and Dad visited him occasionally. I had gone to university and then moved to London, so it wasn't really until the articles in the Star and sadly not long after, his obituary, that I heard more about him. One thing that I'm not sure of from the article is that he died in 1997, not 1999 - I'm fairly certain I've found the right death certificate on ancestry.co.uk but I need to find the clippings from the Star. If anyone has any memories of him, I'd like to hear them.