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  1. Lets try and get it sorted out. The main pictures are of Woodbourne Hotel who played in the Attercliffe Alliance League. There are 2 sets of medals on display - being runners up in the Attercliffe Alliance Charity Cup and the runners up of Division "B" of the Attercliffe Alliance League in season 1920/21. The picture obviously was taken outside the pub as can be seen by the sign on the right-hand side of the pub. There was a Woodbourne Road WR (Wesleyan Reform) team that played in the Bible Class League. To play in the Bible Class League, the team had to be connected to a Church or Church youth club. Pub teams, like Woodbourne Hotel, were not allowed in the Bible Class League. The Attercliffe Alliance league started in 1917/18 season as the Fowler League (Named after the person that started it) For season 1918/19 it changed its name to the Attercliffe Alliance League, before dissolving at the end of the 1922/23 season. The Attercliffe Charity Cup started in season 1917/18. At the end of the War, it was a prime time for the setting up of Charity Cup Competitions with the Darnell Medical Aid and Tinsley Charity Cup being two other local competitions that started that same season. The Alliance Charity Cup ran until 1940/41. Like so many other Football competition, the loss of players to the war effort saw the end of the Competition. It would be nice to know if the cups played for in the Attercliffe competitions are still around somewhere.
  2. There was another Church team in Hackenthorpe in the mid 1960's. It was the Hackenthorpe Christ Church team. It also played on Drakehouse fields in the Highgate and District league (this was an under 16 league) before moving into the Sheffield & Hallamshire Junior (under 21) League. My next door neighbour Michael Hall was the manager, and I ended up being the Secretary. In 1966 we moved our base to the newly opened Hackenthorpe Social Club for sponsorship, playing under their name. We moved our pitch to Woodhouse because the changing rooms at Drakehouse were falling down and not acceptable by the new league.We won the Junior League in season 1967/68. At the end of the season we tried to move to a more senior league, but were rejected because of our poor changing rooms. This was a surprise to us as we shared the ground with Sheffield United juniors. The club folded I started a team (manager, player, secretary Etc) under the name Hackenthorpe Boys in 1964, also playing in the Highgate & District League. However, the league folded at the end of the season and a year later we joined the Sheffield & Hallamshire Under 18 Sunday League as Hackenthorpe FC. Their is still a team playing under that name, which I believe is the continuation of the club I started. The thing I remember about Dralkehuse was having to mark the pitch out before the game. Somebody had found a water spring in the farmers field on the top side of the pitch nearest the road. We wound climb over the fence, fill our buckets with water, and them made a lime solution which we applied by using paint brushes. The pitch cost 2/2/- per season from Southall Parish Council. We could play on it 24/7. In 1968 the area was taken over by Sheffield Council and the charge went up to 10/- per game, collected during the game by a Council worker riding a motor bike. Being the treasurer, I often had to leave the pitch during the game to pay him. Chris Eyre
  3. My Father was a bus/tram driver during the war years for Sheffield Corporation. He once told me that the aerodrome was used at nights during the blitz to store the Corporations buses, to save them from damage.
  4. looking at the map, the fish market was part of the old Rag & Tag market. I believe it moved from there to the new Castle Market when that opened in the early 1960's
  5. I remember going there in the late 1960's for the firm of Accountants I worked for to do the audit of some of the firms books that operated there. There are 3 things that I still remember. One was that I was walking down a narrow corridor and hearing a rattle in front of me. The next thing was about 6 sides of meat come flying round a corner on an overhead rail. You had to be quick and lean against the wall, otherwise you got flattened, I remember that one day I parked my car near some buildings. At dinner time I went to my car to eat my sandwiches. Unfortunately, I had parked near a vent, and the smell from that had got into my car. It was so bad, that there was no way I could eat my food. It took days to clear the smell from my car. I remember a man walking past me with 2 buckets full of raw tripe. It was pure black. Up to then I had often enjoyed having a plate of tripe at the stall in the Castle market. You used to buy a small plate with the "white" tripe on and then add your own salt, pepper and vinegar. Anybody else remember that stall. Also my mum used to cook tripe and onions in a milky source. We used to have this on a bed of bread and butter. I do not think I had any further tripe after seeing the raw black stuff. There was a firm with a name I believe of Sheffield Hides, Skins and bones. I believe they had a premises in the abattoir They also collected these items from most of the butchers in the Sheffield area for recycling. Not sure what happens today.
  6. Is there a list of winners of the Clegg Shield since it's beginning?  I have an old photo of my father's taken at Hillsborough School, Parkside Road with "Clegg 1930-31" written on a football.  I just wondered if they'd actually won it.

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      I have checked my records and note that Wadsley Bridge won the Clegg Shield in 1929/30 but not in 1930/31. However, they would have taken part in the competition which had 14 divisions in 1930/31.

      The Clegg Shield is the oldest running football competition for school boy in the World. It was started in 1889 and is still running today with their final usually played at Sheffield United's ground in late April or early May.,

      Originally it was for Under 14s but today it is for Under 16s

      I have a list of most of the winners, some of the shields on the shield have fallen off over the years and to date I have been unable to trace the winners.

      I am the joint author of the book Football in Sheffield which came out about 16 months ago. This coverts just about all the Sheffield football leagues and cup competitions, from day one plus the Clegg, United and Wednesday Shields for schools football.

      If you would like a list of the winners of the Clegg Shield and a photo of it, then send you email address to me at chris@cjeyre.co.uk, and I will let you have copies. I have been unable to attach them to this email for some reason.

      It would be nice to see the photo you have to add to my collection.

      Come back to me if you need any further info


      Chris Eyre (01709 541619)



  7. I have been approached by an elderly gentleman, from out of the area, regarding a football medal he found many years ago. It is for winning the Clegg Shield in 1905/06 with All Saints National School. This was a competition for players from local Sheffield Schools, which is still being played for today. The medal is in the name of N Skillington, who was a full back. I have found the same name appearing in the Heeley Charity Cup competition some 20 years later, so that could be the same person. Does anybody know anything about N Skillington, and are any of his family members still alive, as the gentleman would like to return the medal to his family. Chris Eyre (Sheffield & Hallamshire CFA Historian)
  8. Hi I can confirm the ground was the old B&C Co-op ground which from memory was behind the co-op milk depot at the top of Bellhouse Road. Its some years since I was on that ground, and I assume it is now built on. A lot of local finals were played at that ground over the years. For your information, Bellhouse Road WMC won the game, but I have not got the score in my records. Chris Eyre (Sheffield & Hallamshire CFA historian)
  9. Went down to the Crucible Theatre on Saturday looking for the Commemorative plaque re the formation of both Yorkshire Cricket club and Sheffield Wednesday at the Adelphi Hotel which according to picture Sheffield should be attached to the wall. I could not find the plaque and nobody at the Crucible or tourist information could help me. Anybody got any ideas where it is.
  10. I well remember the sarsaparilla shop near the Abbeydale Cinema in the early 60's. I used to ride on my bike there with empty pop bottles to be filled up for my aunty and uncle who lived on Boyton Street at Heeley There was also a sarsaparilla shop opposite the Rotherham United football ground in the late 1960's The last time I had draft Sarsaparilla was whilst touring in America 15 years ago when I stopped at a small town in the middle of nowhere for my dinner and came across a drinks shop that sold all sorts of herbal drinks. You can still get bottle of sarsaparilla at some garden centre in cordial bottle to dilute. Root beer and sarsaparilla are similar, but are different drinks altogether. Sarsaparilla is much the better drink.
  11. I am trying to trace any information on a Frederick Fidler who attended the Sheffield School of Art in 1877. He appeared to be very talented, winning a £5 prize for designing the Sheffield Football Association Challenge Cup as well as winning the Master Cutlers prize for designing daggers and sheaths. He also won a National Art gold medal for his designs. Does anybody know if any of his designs were used to produce and daggers or sheaths, or if he went on to design further works of art or important items in Sheffield history. Is anybody still alive who is a member of his family. Any information would be appreciated as I am working on an article about the football cup
  12. In the late 1960's I worked for a firm of Accountant who did the financial accounts for Maces. When completing the account's, we always used to ask business owners if they had any dead stock - meaning any that they were not expecting to sell because of age, damaged etc. I still smile today when I remember that when we asked one of the female manages at Maces, she provided us with a list of all the dead animal's/birds etc. that they had had during the previous 12 months. We were always careful how we asked that question in future years.
  13. Also formed there, 150 years ago this week on 6 March 1867 was the Sheffield Football Association which is now known as the Sheffield & Hallamshire CFA. There was a blue plaque on the Crucible which stands on the spot of were the Adelphi Hotel stood to mark the fact that Sheffield Wednesday, Yorkshire Cricket Club and Bramall Lane Cricket ground where founded there. Not sure if it is still there. A picture of the plaque can be found on the Picture Sheffield site
  14. I remember the works at Hackenthorpe from passing it each day 1961 -1966 on my way to school at the Carter Lodge School. now renamed Rainbow Forge. In June 1966 I worked at the factory for one week on works experience followed by a week at the education office on Campo Lane in Sheffield. It was a complete self contained factory, with everything from a forge to finishing department. It even had its own fishing pond inside the grounds, which I believe is still there. I worked in most department during the week and sat on the managers table for my dinner. His wife was the sister of the owner of a Sheffield Accountancy practice. I wanted to go into accountancy, so she arranged for me to have an interview, and I got a job there as a trainee accountant. Things went from there, and I have run my own accountancy practice for the last 35 years. Most of the building is still there, but the wooden steps that were inside the building which went up to a wooden building, have long since gone. On Main Street there was a door were the employees entered and clocked in and off. I remember an old man sat just inside the door in front of an open fire to keep his eyes on things. Just through the door and to the left was the forge. The thing I really remember of my week there was one department with older women in it. They were real oggers, and the other workers at the firm took great delight in sending the young trainee lads to them to be tormented. Possibly the equivalent of fetching the glass hammer trick that were played on new workers in those days. Fortunately, only being there for a few hours I was left alone by them. But I will always remember the fear of the lads as they game it. It was a shame that the property was not kept in tact to act as a museum as I have always felt that it was more of an interest that Abbeydale Museum, being a self contained works
  15. As a football historian, I have noted that this year is the 150th anniversary of important dates in Sheffield football history. The first every football cup competition in the World - The Youdan Cup was played in February/March 1867. The Sheffield Football Association was formed on 7 March 1867 and Sheffield Wednesday were formed in September 1867. I am trying to put an article together about this, so does anybody know of any other important Sheffield event, sports or other things, that took place or started in that year, which I can include in the article