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    Historian for Sheffield & Hallamshire CFA

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  1. I have been approached by an elderly gentleman, from out of the area, regarding a football medal he found many years ago. It is for winning the Clegg Shield in 1905/06 with All Saints National School. This was a competition for players from local Sheffield Schools, which is still being played for today. The medal is in the name of N Skillington, who was a full back. I have found the same name appearing in the Heeley Charity Cup competition some 20 years later, so that could be the same person. Does anybody know anything about N Skillington, and are any of his family members still alive, as the gentleman would like to return the medal to his family. Chris Eyre (Sheffield & Hallamshire CFA Historian)
  2. Hi I can confirm the ground was the old B&C Co-op ground which from memory was behind the co-op milk depot at the top of Bellhouse Road. Its some years since I was on that ground, and I assume it is now built on. A lot of local finals were played at that ground over the years. For your information, Bellhouse Road WMC won the game, but I have not got the score in my records. Chris Eyre (Sheffield & Hallamshire CFA historian)
  3. Went down to the Crucible Theatre on Saturday looking for the Commemorative plaque re the formation of both Yorkshire Cricket club and Sheffield Wednesday at the Adelphi Hotel which according to picture Sheffield should be attached to the wall. I could not find the plaque and nobody at the Crucible or tourist information could help me. Anybody got any ideas where it is.
  4. Anyone remember Sarsaparilla ?

    I well remember the sarsaparilla shop near the Abbeydale Cinema in the early 60's. I used to ride on my bike there with empty pop bottles to be filled up for my aunty and uncle who lived on Boyton Street at Heeley There was also a sarsaparilla shop opposite the Rotherham United football ground in the late 1960's The last time I had draft Sarsaparilla was whilst touring in America 15 years ago when I stopped at a small town in the middle of nowhere for my dinner and came across a drinks shop that sold all sorts of herbal drinks. You can still get bottle of sarsaparilla at some garden centre in cordial bottle to dilute. Root beer and sarsaparilla are similar, but are different drinks altogether. Sarsaparilla is much the better drink.
  5. I am trying to trace any information on a Frederick Fidler who attended the Sheffield School of Art in 1877. He appeared to be very talented, winning a £5 prize for designing the Sheffield Football Association Challenge Cup as well as winning the Master Cutlers prize for designing daggers and sheaths. He also won a National Art gold medal for his designs. Does anybody know if any of his designs were used to produce and daggers or sheaths, or if he went on to design further works of art or important items in Sheffield history. Is anybody still alive who is a member of his family. Any information would be appreciated as I am working on an article about the football cup
  6. MACES Pet Shop.

    In the late 1960's I worked for a firm of Accountant who did the financial accounts for Maces. When completing the account's, we always used to ask business owners if they had any dead stock - meaning any that they were not expecting to sell because of age, damaged etc. I still smile today when I remember that when we asked one of the female manages at Maces, she provided us with a list of all the dead animal's/birds etc. that they had had during the previous 12 months. We were always careful how we asked that question in future years.
  7. Also formed there, 150 years ago this week on 6 March 1867 was the Sheffield Football Association which is now known as the Sheffield & Hallamshire CFA. There was a blue plaque on the Crucible which stands on the spot of were the Adelphi Hotel stood to mark the fact that Sheffield Wednesday, Yorkshire Cricket Club and Bramall Lane Cricket ground where founded there. Not sure if it is still there. A picture of the plaque can be found on the Picture Sheffield site
  8. Staniforth Works - Hackenthorpe

    I remember the works at Hackenthorpe from passing it each day 1961 -1966 on my way to school at the Carter Lodge School. now renamed Rainbow Forge. In June 1966 I worked at the factory for one week on works experience followed by a week at the education office on Campo Lane in Sheffield. It was a complete self contained factory, with everything from a forge to finishing department. It even had its own fishing pond inside the grounds, which I believe is still there. I worked in most department during the week and sat on the managers table for my dinner. His wife was the sister of the owner of a Sheffield Accountancy practice. I wanted to go into accountancy, so she arranged for me to have an interview, and I got a job there as a trainee accountant. Things went from there, and I have run my own accountancy practice for the last 35 years. Most of the building is still there, but the wooden steps that were inside the building which went up to a wooden building, have long since gone. On Main Street there was a door were the employees entered and clocked in and off. I remember an old man sat just inside the door in front of an open fire to keep his eyes on things. Just through the door and to the left was the forge. The thing I really remember of my week there was one department with older women in it. They were real oggers, and the other workers at the firm took great delight in sending the young trainee lads to them to be tormented. Possibly the equivalent of fetching the glass hammer trick that were played on new workers in those days. Fortunately, only being there for a few hours I was left alone by them. But I will always remember the fear of the lads as they game it. It was a shame that the property was not kept in tact to act as a museum as I have always felt that it was more of an interest that Abbeydale Museum, being a self contained works
  9. As a football historian, I have noted that this year is the 150th anniversary of important dates in Sheffield football history. The first every football cup competition in the World - The Youdan Cup was played in February/March 1867. The Sheffield Football Association was formed on 7 March 1867 and Sheffield Wednesday were formed in September 1867. I am trying to put an article together about this, so does anybody know of any other important Sheffield event, sports or other things, that took place or started in that year, which I can include in the article
  10. Hi All Put you in the picture about the Sheffield & District Works Sports Association which was started in 1919. They had sections for all sorts of sports, football, hockey, cricket, swimming, and tennis, which is still going today. I believe there were over 80 sections at one time. Many of the cups/shields for these competition were sold at auction about 5 years ago. They had various leagues in the football section. there was, in order of seniority, Premier League, Beatty League, Haig League, Drake League, Raleigh League and a minor league started in 1939/40 and a knock out Cup - A S Lee Cup Competition in 1926/27. The last two running were the Premier League and A S Lee, both finished in 1994. The Drake League finished in 1962/63 and the Raleigh League in 1940. Most of the early trophies appear to have gone long ago. I do have pictures of most of them in my collection. The Drake League was for players under 18 on 1st September and the Raleigh League for players under 16. The teams in the picture represented Thomas Firth steel works, later to become Firth Browns. I believe that their home ground was on Bawtry Road at that time, possibly the one which is now owned by Sheffield University or the one on the other side of the road now owned by Rotherham United.. To play for the team, you had to work at the firm, so the player's in question would be work mates. The Beatty Shield was presented by Lord Beatty. He took the surrender of the German navy at the end of the first world war and the Haig league was from Lord Haig who took the surrender of the German Army. The Drake league had a rose bowl as its trophy. This was donated by Prince Albert. I believe I know where this is at the moment. Anybody interested in the early years of local Sheffield football should obtain a copy of a book that I am co-author of called Football in Sheffield. It was released last September. It is 224 pages long, A4 size and covers the first 150 years of the amateur football game in Sheffield. It has the winners of nearly 100 leagues and cups, its is full of team, medal and cup photos, and much more. It can be obtained from myself for £20, including postage or from the Sheffield Star or Waterstones for £25. You can get an idea about the book by looking on eBay. If anybody has any old football trophies, football pictures or medals they want to know more about, then I am the man to try and help you. I am the official historian for Sheffield & Hallamshire CFA and I try and sort out peoples football queries in my spare time I can be contacted on 01709 541619. Chris Eyre
  11. Arts Tower

    Was this tower owned in the late 1960's by Husband & Co a firm of arcitects, before the uni took over, or was that demolised,
  12. Zulus

    The Zulus period in local football was an interesting chapter, but lasted a short time of about 18 months Whilst the team called themselves the Sheffield Zulus, they were actually made up of players from other teams in the area. Initially it was a good idea, with the team playing all over the Country. However, troubles soon set in as many people in the football authority thought that they were degrading football. More important was the fact that these players were actually being paid to play in these games - professional football players were not allowed to play in the Sheffield Football Associations area at that time. The local footbal association issued a ban stopping these players playing in any game under their control Matters came to a head in January 1880 when the Zulus played in Edinburgh. The Sheffield Football Association quickly banned the players who had took part, and notified their clubs accordingly. Three of the clubs involved, The Wednesday, Heeley and Exchange were due to play in the semi finals of the Wharncliffe Charity Cup which was run by the Sheffield FA in the following weeks. Sheffield FA would not relent, so the clubs refused to play in the cup competition. As a result, the competition was scrapped for the season. However, The Wednesday and Exchange did play each other in a fund raising game to make up for any money the local charities would lose with the competition being scrapped
  13. I remember going to the B&C co-op in Sheffield near the old court house, one Friday night after school, in 1965 I had gone to buy 10 football shirts for a team that I ran, Hackenthorpe Boys, as we were due to play our first game of the season the next day. Our goalkeeper had his own shirt, thats why we picked him. I had tried Suggs Sports to buy the shirts, but they were more than the money I had. Next I went into the B&C and again I was a little short of the cost price. The kind lady behind the counter on hearing that I needed the shirts for the next day, said that if I did not ask for the divi, then I could have them for the money I had. What a nice lady she was. We turned out the next day in our new white shirts and beat Catcliffe FC 6-2.
  14. Blonk St Bridge

    Do not know anything about the initials. But I remember being taken by my father in the mid 1960's to the barbers shop that stood on Blonk street. One of the barbers was a female who had a club foot, and I remember with fear the sound of her iron boot on the floor as she moved round you as she was cutting your hair.. Can anybody else remember going to that barbers
  15. I appreciate what is in the Wragg league handbook re their formation, but I have pointed out to them several times that that information is wrong. I have a press advertisment from 1903 asking for teams to enter the Wragg league competition, and to contact W Wragg to do so. This advert clearley shows that this competition was formley the Lewis Cup and that Nelson FC had kept the previous cup as they had won in 3 years in a row, hence the need for a new cup which W Wragg donated. It appears that many teams thought that the competition had folded because of this, and the advert pointed out the reason for the name change. I have found a brief reference to an Attercliffe LV Competition, but this did not start until about 1906 and was short lived. A Sheffield LV League did start in 1903, but this was short lived because Sheffield & Hallamshire would not sanction it. The cup for that competition sold a few years ago at a London auction house for £10000 I have recently come across an article in the Green Un from 1946 stating that the Wragg League started in 1892, which is the year that the Lewis Cup started. Surprisingly it states that W Dyson was the secretary for the first 40 years when all the paperwork and records point to all correspondance going to W Wraggs shop in Attercliffe. This is something I am now checking out
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