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  1. Hi, A wild guess ! Is it Campo Lane, looking towards Townhead Street? Therefore, the jumble on the left side of the picture would be gravestones in the yard behind the Parish Church/Cathedral. Just a thought. Regards
  2. I was off the the Sheffield History site when these pictures were originally posted so didn't comment and I'm now trying to play catch-up. The large building on the photo at the end of the street (right hand side) looks like the side of the the old John Walsh department store. If it is John Walsh's building, then the pub in the forground is the Mulberry Tavern. This old and well known establishment, on the street of the same name. It was demolished some years ago and replaced with the poor imitation you now see abandoned on Arundel Gate. Regards
  3. Hello, The other day, while rumaging throught some old files, I came across a booklet, published in 1948, on the occasion of the centennial of Holy Trinity Church, Wicker. At the time, I was a member of the Wolf Cub Pack at Holy Trinity so attended most of the ceremonies. Included in the booklet was a reprint of an article from the Sheffield and Rotherham Advertiser describing the original 1848 dedication. This caught my eye and I thought some of the Forum might be interested, if only for the archaic journalistic style. Unfortunately, it wouldn't scan very well so I re-typed it - See Attached. The italics in the text are mine. Regards Holy Trinity Church Centenial.doc
  4. Hi, Sorry to mislead anybody but the Dore House Farm area is at the opposite end of Handsworth to where the coking plant was located. If you are taking the Parkway to the M1, soon after it crosses the junction with Handsworth Road, you used to see a set of stone-built houses on the right hand side. They may still be there and were called Waveley Cottages. They are/were situated on Waveley Lane and the Parkway was built along side the lane. My recollection is that the Becker coking plant was situated somewhere at the far end of Waveley Lane (away from Handsworth Road). In my childhood, the lane started at the end of Halesworth Road and first went in the direction of the Triangle Housing Estate (before the Parkway was built) before turning to run down the hill towards the railway (along side the Parkway). Just one other point. The approx. latitude/longitude. I quoted in my original post didn't copy correctly. This has now been revised. My estimate of the coking plants location should have read: 53.38 deg. North and 1.38 deg. West. Sorry about that. I took the lat./long. information from Flash Earth, unfortuately my computer skills don't run to providing "air links" Now I'm sure you see why I need a Map. Best Regards
  5. Hello, There used to be a coking battery (25 ovens in the first phase) on the Handsworth side of the Rother Valley, close to the Parkway: before it joins the M1. It was located alongside the old LNER main line from Darnall as it leaves the cut (at what used to be Oliver's Mount) and curves to the right heading for Woodhouse. I cant find a map that shows the plant although I can give its approx. Latitude/ Longitude (53.38 deg.N: 1.38 deg.W - Revised 13/4/2010). Our wonderful set of "Jewel (1950) OS maps would be an ideal source, unfortuately we don't have a sheet for that location. The latest Google shows it as a 'Green Field' site. It was part of the Handsworth Nunnery Colliery operations but was somewhat remote from Handsworth Colliery site (over on Finchwell Road). I never knew its real name but most people used to call it "The Becker". It was built by Woodhall - Duckham in 1928 and the first in Britain to the patented design of the German/ American Joseph Becker. That's probably where the name came from. It must have gone out of operation when Handsworth Colliery closed, perhaps even earlier. Very few people seem to know "The Becker" ever existed and often confuse it with United Coke and Chemical's huge by-product plant at Orgreave. The Orgreave operation was some distance away from 'The Becker' and on the other side of the railway tracks. They were owned but totally different companies. Any offerings Regards
  6. Hi, See Eric Youle's 'Reminicenses of Old Sheffield: Chapter IX "The Old Haymarket - The Wicker - The Nursery Bridgehouses " . Reference is made there to the Brightside Bierlow Stocks being located at Bridgehouses. Incidentally, while we are the subject of Bridgehouses/ Iron Bridge, perhaps we might be able to clear another topic that has been hanging around the Forum for a while. On October 15, 2008, 'Richard B' placed a number of old Eric Youle maps on the 'Sheffield Maps' section under the topic: Other Maps/Plans/Layouts. One of the maps showed the Bridghouses area and as it is undated, we were invited to establish its age. Ive been looking at it - on and off - for the last three months but can't date it with the limited resources at my disposal here. My best-guess would be somewhere between 1845 (the platforms for old MSLR passenge station are shown) and 1878 (the survey still shows the Wesleyan Church at the corner of Rock Street and Chapel Street which was demolished that year, so we are told, for the enlargement of the Bridgehouses Goods Yard). The Iron Bridge is shown but there is no sign of Corporations Street. The end of Harvest Lane is there but Mowbray Street hadn't been cut-through then. Regards
  7. Hello, As someone who grew up in the area, I was interested in the above description but it leaves me a little confused. I'm OK with the description of the wooden bridge and recall the first iron bridge. was washed away in the 1864 flood but it doesn't say where these bridges were located. I think they were both located at or near the position of the iron bridge shown on the photo. (lets call it: Iron Bridge No.2) The text however suggests the wooden and first iron bridge was on the same alignment as Corporation Street and the later Borough Bridge, built so we are told, in 1851. But the Borough Bridge we all remember was masonry and carried both traffic and pedestrian. It wasn't a pedestrians-only like the Iron Bridge. I think the construction date for the Borough Bridge we all knew might be later than 1851 - more like 1871. (The Corporations Street swimming baths are supposed to have been built around 1870-71). This would place it after the 1864 flood and the building of Iron Bridge No.2 Otherwise why would they built a masonry bridge(c 1851) and late a new Iron footbridge( No.2) virtually along side of each other. Just a thought. Regards
  8. Hi, Electricians in steelworks a 100-120 years ago were really pioneers. When there was a breakdown, the owner would want to be back in production ASAP but the electrical boys had very few resources at their disposal when a piece of equipment failed. The OEM (original equipment manufacturer) could be dozens of miles away and there were unlikely to be any spares, particularly transformer and motors. Remember, in the early days of electrical equipment, the insulation was very poor and therefore coil failure and burn-outs would be regular occurence. They had to be capable of repairing just about everything and anything electrical. Winders were usually part of the electrical maintenance department. Their function was to rewind electrical equipment, This would mostly be motor windings but might also include transformers: anything with a coil. Regards
  9. Hello, At a guess, I would say electric lighting came into steelworks in about 1885/90 but electric motors on EOT steelworks cranes would have begun to appear about 1895. As you probably know, the first crane motors were stationary, at the end of the shop or bay and power trasmitted to the crane by an endless hemp rope. The motors ran all the time and the crane driver selected the hoist or trolley motion by pulling various leavers in the cab. Lowering would be by a brake. These could have been ac or dc motors. By 1900 or soon after, this primative; not to mention dangerous arrangement, was susperseded by cranes with seperate motors for each motion. The better cranes from this period were dc. Alternating current cranes were also around but didn't provide the accuracy that dc. provide particularly in places like melting shops or machinery assembly shops. Crane builders came up with all kinds of solutions such as ac wound rotor motors - with or without eddy curent brakes- dc injection, etc. But it was only when inverter controls arrived that the dc motor on the hoists were largely displaced . I recall the melt shop cranes at BSC Tinsley Park (c1963) were the four girder type, rated at 165 tons(?). They had ac wound rotor motors on the long and cross travel but the main hoists were dc. The direct current was provided by MG sets on the cranes themselves. As for the blooming and slabbing mills themselves they would be be steam-driven at the beginning. The Roughing Mill at Fox's StocksbridgeWorks was steam driven until the mid 1960's and the BSC/ESC armour plate mill at River Don Works was steam-driven to the end of its days. I don't know exactly when the rolling mill equipment began to be electrified but it most likely had to wait for two things: The invention of reliable control systems such as Ward-Leonard and somebody coming up with a good design of dc electric motor. The latter was the MD (mill duty) dc motors developed in the US by the American Iron and Steel Engineers (AISE) organization. They were virtually indistructable but very very expensive. GEC and AEI used to build them in England. Regards
  10. Hello, Two things: 1 - I was still living in Sheffield when the hole in the road was dug/built. If my memory serves me right, the partially blocked opening shown in the photo was one of four pedestrian walkways which gave access into the 'Hole' itself. This particular opening/tunnel only extended about 30 feet beyond the partially built wall. Then you either turned left and went up an escalator into High Street or you turn right and went up a ramp into Angel Street. The tunnel did NOT penetrate the building behind in fact there was a great deal of amusement that a tunnel would be built at that particular location at all. Remember the building used to be the Market Place Branch of the Midland Bank. There was quite a bit of joking about the end wall of the tunnel coming so close to the banks foundation. An open invitation, some people thought, for a few "Likely Lads" from a well known housing estate to try their luck at bank robbery. 2 - As for the tunnel between the Police Station and the Old Town Hall/Court House, I went therough it in the mid 1950's. This was as a visitor on a guided tour - not as a felon. Most people will remember the central Police Station used to be up a long flight of stairs in Castle Green, next to the Hen and Chickens P.H. But the Charge Office was right behind the station in Water Lane. The tunnel had been dug so that "customers" could be brought from the Charge Office through the Castle Green "Nick" and into the Court building without having to take them outside and run the risk of them escaping . Apart from being shown around the various departments in the Castle Green Station itself; we also visited the photographic department. At the time, this was in rooms in the Court building, facing onto Waingate. That's how I came to go through the tunnel. Regards
  11. Hi, My family weren't big on eating-out but on special occasssions, they went to a place called Stephenson Restaurant. It was on the city block bounded by Castle Street, Haymarket, King street and Angel Street. It was destroyed in the first night of the blitz and they spoke about it long after it was gone. In my childhood it was just a pile of rubble. Apparently it was very Victorian, having a large glass and iron dome, which shows up occasionally on pre-war photos of the area. It must also have been all potted palms, white linen table cloths and meticulous service. It most likely had an orchestra as well or at least a string quartet. Old Mr. Stephenson himself was very much in evidence so I'm told. There used to be a restaurant in Leeds that must have been a contemporary of Stephensons. I don't know if is still there.. It survived the Luftwaffe but probably didn't survive the developer's Panzer divisions. Regards
  12. Hello, Just a piece of trivia. If you look at the photo taken of the upstream side of the bridge, it shows sets of nicely painted railings over each arch. While crossing the bridge one day on my 2009 visit to Sheffield, I took particular notice of these handrails. As far as I can tell, at least one section is new, ie installed during the latest bridge reconstruction, possibly more. The old railings were likely to have been made of cast iron and this may have become a safety concern. The present handrails closely resemble the ones installed in the 1900 widening scheme but soon after the blitz, one section of original handrail on the U/S side had the bars cut in a number of places so that that it left a series of square holes..... Four I think. These were for fire fighting as each was large enough to accomodate the basket on a fire brigade suction hose. To prevent kids like me falling through these openings, each one was fitted with a hinged steel flap. I think each flap was padlocked but I can't remember. Looking at the photo, you would expect the holes to have been cut in the section at the extreme left, where water could be drawn from the deeper part of the river above the weir; however, I'm inclined to think they were at least one arch over- more towards the centre of the channel downstream of the weir. The railings on the 'White Rails' section of Nursery Street also received the same cutting and flap treatment but these old railings seem to have been replaced new rails of a different design. Regards
  13. Hello, Thanks for all your help: Good to see they are still around. The last company I worked for in Shefield used them exclusives for testing. Some of our requirements were way outside the realm of regular materials testing but they always seemed to have a piece of equipment that would do the job. Regards
  14. Hi, A lot of good details on the overlay. A couple of quick observations which you may have already made: 1 -The building identified as the SYPTE offices was in an earlier life the offices of Sheffield Corporation Transport. But the SCT hadn't been there all that long. The original occupants(and possible the owners) was W,H.Smith. It was their distribution centre for magazines. Before moving to Exchange Street, the SCT office used to be the old waterworks building at the bottom of Division Street. 2 - Looking at the map, a building is shown between the arrows identifying the Alexandra Hotel and the Smithfield Hotel: alongside the Don but end-on to Blonk Street. This was the Sheffield Testing Company and they were at this location until the late 50's/early 60's. Then they moved to a new building on Nursery Street. Does anybody know if they are still in business ? Regards
  15. Hi, I knew the building as the Grosvenor Hotel but not sure if it was the correct name. Never went inside though. Regards
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