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  1. 12 hours ago, chauvin said:

    James Andrew was a farmer who used to own Greenhill Hall as explained in the document called "Greenhill conservation area appraisal 2008" (P7) and confirmed by a relative (Granddaughter of M. James Andrew).

    Quoting from the Harrold Armitage book Chantrey Land!

    "Many will remember Greenhill Hall as the home of Mr William Lister, land agent and surveyor, who was at Greenhill in the fifties and more recently the Misses Lister dwelt here and owned the place.   After them came the Crawshaws, and in 1900 the present occupier Mr James Smith Andrew, bought the Hall"

    Here`s the census page from 1901

     

    James Andrew 1901.jpg


  2. On 04/07/2008 at 09:27, ceegee said:

    Has anyone got any information etc on when the housing in that area of Sheffield was built, and by who. The area is private housing and a combination of detached, semi-detached and bungalows. It is quite a large area stretching from Abbey Lane upto the borders with Bradway, inc Westwick Road, Crescent. Old Park Road, Avenue, Cockshutt Road, Crescent etc. Any info would be welcome

    Estate agent Frank Crawshaw purchased a lot of the land in the Westwick area from The Beauchief Abbey Estate in the 1920s.

    A possible builder of the housing in the Westwick area could be local builder Robert Jones of Greenfield Road, Greenhill. He carried out a lot of the housing construction in the area including his own home and road that he lived on.


  3. I remember Timberland on the Moor, we'd just married so it'd be some time in 1971.

    We'd taken out a mortgage on an old semi in Meersbrook, for which we'd paid the princely sum of £1450, outside loo, no bathroom and an old Ascot gas water heater over a Belfast sink in the kitchen which I replaced with a new sink unit from Timberland.

    Seem to think you could hire a van from them by the hour to get your good's home?


  4. As you`re saying tozzin!  looking on the bright side(no pun intended) at least it will get some well deserved maintenance and lets hope any work carried out internally compliments the original decor.

    Just working from the early census records the Hall became an Inn sometime between 1851 & 1861.

    Carbrook Hall in 1851 was the home of George Bradford a farmer of 100 acres employing 2 men, by the time of the 1861 census it was trading as the Carbrook Hotel in the ownership of publican William Bunting and his wife Elizabeth.

     

    Carbrook Hall.jpg

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  5. On 04/09/2009 at 22:11, SteveHB said:

    Overlay one two and three .. lol

    post-188-1252098743_thumb.jpg

    In the past I spent a lot of time fishing at Dam Fask,

    one area on the reservoir that we always referred to as 'the point' (marked)

    I was on good terms with most of the water bailiffs at the time,

    and one who lived local near to the Nags Head PH always

    spoke of the point as being an 'old Road'

    It can be seen quite clearly in this third image when the water level was low.

    ukelele lady has posted a photo when Dam Flask was at very low level in 1948,

    and an old stone bridge is visible ... link here

    I had a drive over to Low Bradfield to see how low the water level was in Dam Flask, its not low enough to see any signs of the old Hamlet of Dam Flask but if we don`t get any serious rain fall soon i think we might get to see the old bridge last seen when the Dam was drained for repair work in 1948.

    There is a link in the post above about to a photograph of the old bridge over to the Hamlet.

    My 3rd Great Grandfather lived and worked in the old Hamlet where he owned a wheelwright business, the census taken in 1871 shows he was still living there for at least 8 more years after the Great Flood of 1863.

    Anyone know the year the Hamlet was finally abandoned to make way for the Dam?

    Thanks

    Southside

    Dam Flask 1.jpg

    Dam Flask 2.jpg


  6. On 24/10/2018 at 21:09, RLongden said:

    Thanks for the links RLongden. 

    In one of the links about the Hall it says Charles Boot carried out the demolition of the Hall, wasn't he the guy who demolished Clumber House after it was destroyed by fire?

    Next time I'm out at Derwent I'll look out for your dad's bench!  In the early seventies i installed some heating in the building called the Old House over on the opposite side of the reservoir from your dad's bench, if I'm remembering correctly it was leased at the time to a Mr Ollerenshaw JP.

     

     


  7. On 21/10/2018 at 21:47, boginspro said:

    I believe the Chantrey terminus was only the end of the track for a short time in 1903 until the track was extended to Abbey Lane and that the caption inserted on the original postcard has obliterated the track in the foreground, but the overhead wires are still visible.

    I would appreciate expert help here, first to correct me if I am wrong and secondly to say when car 24 got it's covered top deck.

     

    If the date on this Picture Sheffield Photograph is correct boginspro, the track extension to Abbey Lane would be a year or two after 1912

    Question for Voldy! did trolley buses ever run in Sheffield?

    Woodseats Tram Route 1.jpg

    Woodseats Tram Route 2.jpg

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  8. On 10/06/2018 at 21:16, rover1949 said:

    I have occasionally been fly fishing on Ladybower, using one of the rowing boats.

    If you row under the viaduct towards Derwent it seems you can nearly touch the top of the arches. The water must be very deep.

    No chance of touching the arches this week rover1941

    Derwent 2018.jpg

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  9. On 19/10/2018 at 18:31, boginspro said:

    A postcard on Ebay with an interesting picture of Woodseats tram terminus, posted just twelve weeks before the end of The Great War.       ----------------        https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/352486327999?ul_noapp=true

     

    tram_terminus,_woodseats_1918.jpg

    These Picture Sheffield Photographs show the same scene 10 or so years earlier,spot the changes?  The other photograph shows the view in the opposite direction.

    Woodseats Terminus.jpg

    Woodseats Terminus 3.jpg

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  10. Greenhill Methodist put on the occasional social evening in the old Chapel on Greenhill Main Road.

    I remember going along with my mates to see a local guy put on his escapology/magician act, another time was to see a pop group, "don't remember their name"  well it was 1959, first time we'd seen a local group play live music!


  11. The sale of the White Swan in 1845 didn't go through, John Camm was still the owner of the Swan in 1854!

    Thomas Wilson the publican at the White Swan in 1856 was the Son in Law of John Camm, he married John Camms daughter Ann in 1854.

    As well as owning the White Swan John Camm leased several Quarry's, including a Quarry at Whirlow, the Quarry & Brickyard on Meadowhead (now Morrison's) and a Brickyard on Derbyshire Lane, he also owned a farm on Little Norton Lane.

    His building firm did all the construction work at the new Norton Cemetery on Derbyshire Lane which  opened in 1869.


  12. The Landlord of the White Swan I remember from the sixties was a guy called Edwin Brocklehurst, who before going into the pub trade worked as a painter and decorator.

    In 1845 a property and land sale was advertised in the Sheffield and Rotherham Independent, one of the lots for sale was the White Swan, at the time of the sale the Swan was in the occupation of John Camm.

     

    White Swan.jpg

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  13. On 12/09/2018 at 18:20, RLongden said:

    As far as I can determine, I would estimate the date as 1902 and also the month as maybe June or July?

    Heeley tramcar No.31, built 1900, so could not be earlier than that

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tramcars_of_the_Sheffield_Tramway

    Other postcards of the ‘Valentines Series’, Number 64403, show views of Sheffield and surrounding parks and country scenes, dated as c.1902

    http://www.picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;v00308&pos=51&action=zoom&id=41733

    Sheffield Town Hall clock is showing 12:50pm and shadows under the tram and shop front canopies are vertical, as they would be in ‘high’ Summer, with the sun at its zenith.

    But that’s just my estimate, based on what I can see and find a reference point....

    Thanks for that RLongden! The wickipedia link was interesting. My wife's great grandfather moved up from Bristol in 1899 to demonstrate and teach the workings of the electric trams to the driver's of Sheffield's new tram system.


  14. A couple of then and now photographs of the two buildings in question! Laycock House is the building on the left of the first photograph.

    Can anyone date the old photograph showing the Laycock Building for me?

    From what i`ve found out about Laycock House it was built about 1896.

    The old Photograph of the Pepper Pot shows it with a pointed turret, i hope that gets replaced when the refurbishment takes place!

     

     

    Laycock House.jpg

    Laycock House 2.jpg

    Pepper Pot.jpg

    Pepper Pot 2.jpg

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