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  1. On 17/09/2019 at 07:05, Calvin72 said:

    I think you are in the same place boginspro. I've never seen reference to a Bramall Lane Bridge so I'm back to Square One! Either way it's old, nice, hidden, and I'd love to find out more :)

    According to the tiny bit of information given in Grace`s guide to British Industrial History, the Vulcan Works in 1797 was in the ownership of Ebenezer Berdikin, Anvil Maker.

    So i guess it was foundry of some description?      

    httsearch=Vulcan+ps://www.gracesguide.co.Works+Sheffield&fulltext=uk/Special:Search?

    A couple of maps of the area in 1853 showing the location of Bramall Lane Bridge and a couple of the other bridges over the Porter in 1853.

     

    Also a Picture Sheffield Photograph of the Porter Brook in 1956, you can just about make out the name Yorkshire on the wall of the building in the background, anyone any idea where we are looking towards?

     

    Porter Brook.jpg

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    Porter Brook 3.jpg

    http://www.picturesheffield.com/s41973


  2. On 25/07/2019 at 16:09, sovrappeso said:

    I remember those shops quite well. Starting at the bottom of the row were: The Co-op, Oldham's sweet shop, Watson's Bakery, Swallow's newsagents & toys, Stevenson's fishmongers, Dalton's ?

    chemists, Middleton's chip shop, and Wright's beer-off on the corner. I may have missed a couple out & the order might be slightly wrong, but it's over 60 years since I lived in the area. Come to think of it, there was Cheetham's greengrocers on the corner of Norton Lees Rd & Cockayne Place, Cotterells greengrocers on the corner of Cockayne Place & Cliffe Field Rd , with Cutts' grocers on the opposite corner. There were 2 other corner shops a bit further on Cliffe Field Rd & a mid-terrace shop as well.

     

    sovrappeso  :  The shops on Derbyshire Lane from the 1957 Kellys Street Directory

    Derbyshire Lane.jpg


  3. 22 hours ago, Meersbrook said:

    Cutts grocers got took over by Barry Webster, who played for Rotherham United. Then at bottom of Pearson was Mrs Brown's a grocers. at bottom of welby was Marys. at Norton Lees Rd/Cliffield Rd was I think Richardson another grocers. I was told that the house at the junction of Cliffe Field and Crawford was a chip shop but long before my time. At top of Welby was a grocers. opposite that was the bakery which was next door to kitty cat Florie, she had loads of cats as pets. on other side to bakery was a hardware shop. Another grocers shop was on Norton Lees Rd just round corner from Pearson. 

    Opposite to beer-off nearly was Azellwood's garage/Baptist Ch that fell down after heavy snow 2014

    Meersbrook Baptist Ch -Azellwood Garage, Derbyshire Ln (2).JPG

    I remember the corner property previously (Aizlewoods) was in the ownership of a scrap dealer called Sanderson in the early 70s.

    I believe Fred Wright took over the running of the off licence from his father!


  4. In the late 60s my soon to be wife lived a couple of houses up from Wright's off licence on the corner of Norton Lee's Rd, remember calling in on many an occasion for the wife's aunt!  usually with an empty sherry bottle for a refill from the small casks of sherry kept on the countertop. Mrs Wright (Sheila) would ask do you want cream or cooking sherry? needless to say we were under orders to get the cheapest. (don't think the wife's aunt used it all for cooking though)

    Also remember a workshop type building with big green doors a little way up Norton Lee's Rd on the right hand side, where a guy kept his traction engine, you'd hear it chugging up and down the hill on the odd occasions he took it out for a spin.


  5. 23 hours ago, Heartshome said:

    Hi SteveHB, there is another now unused trough, noticed it this weekend. It is facing the 'top end' of Longline, on Sheep Hill Road, just after the bottom of the drive to the farm. It appears to have been rivited metal.

    Hi Heartshome  I've had a look at the trough on Google Earth! it looks like an old galvanized water storage tank albeit a big one, big cisterns like this were installed in some of the bigger houses around Sheffield, these big tanks were used in the steel works for quenching tanks and by farmer's for horse and cattle troughs.

    The biggest cistern I came across during my plumbing career was located in the roof tower of Endcliffe Hall, it was a huge construction made from slabs of slate held together by metal connecting rods.

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  6. On 04/01/2008 at 17:48, ceegee said:

    I have just finished reading Pierrepoint - A Family of Executioners by Steve Fielding - it's been that type of New Year

     

    At the begining of Chapter 7 the aptly named "Hangman's Holiday" he refers to Albert (Pierrepoint) being back in North London (Pentonville) to carry out the double hanging of two German POW's ARNIM KUELNE & EMIL SCHMITTENDORF. It appears that a month or so before the war ended inmates at a German POW camp on the outskirts of Sheffield were enraged when a tunnel which was near to completion was discovered. They had spent many months tunnelling. Suspecting an informer they rounded on a GERHARDT RETTIG who had been seen talking to guards near the tunnel entrance. Furthermore in a camp that had a large National Socialist contingent, he was not a Nazi. Once threats were made, it was decided by the Camp command to move him to another camp but before this could be enacted he was kicked to death by an angry mob. Four ringleaders were tried, two were acquitted but ARNIM KUELNE & EMIL SCHMITTENDORF were hung on November 16th 1945.

     

    Steve Fielding asserts that GERHARDT RETTIG was not an informer by the way

     

    I wonder if anyone has got any additional information on the incident and the aftermath.

    Some interest in the Camp Is being reported in the Guardian!

    https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/jul/04/biggest-second-world-war-prisoner-camp-unearthed-in-yorkshire-lodge-moor


  7. My first visit to the City Hall was a trip with School to see the Halle Orchestra and thanks to dunsbyowl1867 i can date it to 1956, first pop concert was Cliff Richard and the Drifters.

    Went to nearly all the City Hall pop concerts with my mate's in the late 50s early Sixties, saw all the big names of the day!

    One act i remember seeing that's not on the list is Marianne Faithfull?


  8. 22 hours ago, History dude said:

    Boundary Gleadless Road.

    Any clues as to where this one would be today?

    This is a possible location of the photograph History Dude!

    You can see the marked location of a spring on the map of the Gleadless Road area in 1854 (the Meersbrook appears to be the boundary line).

    On the second map from 1905 the spring is marked up as a well located at the end of Littlewood Lane.

    A rough idea as to where the spring/well was located can be seen on the modern day Bing photograph.

     

    Boundry Gleadless Road.jpg

    1854 Boundry well.jpg

    1905 Boundry Well.jpg

    Boundry Well Gleadless Road 2.jpg


  9. On 01/06/2019 at 22:48, boginspro said:

    It looks close so would it be Richards Bros. cutlery works. I think the factory finally covered the whole area, including the gaol, and cut short Thomas Street from about Button Lane not long after the war.

     

    Thank`s boginspro i couldn`t for the life of me remember what was there before the Wickes store was built.

    The buildings in the background of the photograph are probably what`s left of Green Street (now Wickes car park

     

     

    Gaol 2.jpg


  10. I agree with you boginspro the photograph was taken from the lane coming down from Pedigree Woods! Looking over to the left the lane climbs up the hill past Holmhurst Farm(circled) and onward to meet up with Holmhurst Road. Camping Lane winds over to the right,climbing up the hill on its way to Abbey Lane. 

    Holmhurst Farm.jpg

    Norton Hollow.jpg


  11. On ‎13‎/‎04‎/‎2019 at 19:23, OJ-OK said:

    Apologies for resurrecting this thread. 

    I came across the inscription on Eyewitness works a few weeks ago and decided to make a rubbing of it.  Since there is more interest in Eyewitness works at the moment (with the recent Mausoleum of Giants exhibition) and the buildings upcoming conversion into flats I thought people might appreciate it if I shared the outcome of the rubbing (and an enhanced version of it).

    In terms of the history of the inscription, I cannot add anything beyond what is discussed in the thread - other then to confirm that my own research hasn't offered any better theory for the inscription origins.

    I just hope that when they redevelop the block they don't destroy it - since its been on the building for more then a hundred years!imageproxy.php?img=&key=ff09c6054f30b62a

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    Pevsner Architectural Guide says the Eye-Witness Works built in 1852 was originally a two story building, construction work started c1875 extending the building and adding a third floor.

    It could simply be that Henry Baver/Beever was working on the construction site and with a bit of spare time on his hands decided to leave his mark on the building! 

    Henry Ibbertson Beever was born at Slack Fields, Oughtibridge the son of Thomas & Harriet Beever, he was christened at St Nicholas Church Bradfield on the 4th of May 1843.

    His wife Priscilla Beever(nee Smith) died in 1930 aged 83.

     


  12. The Polytechnic was called the College of Technology when i started my City & Guilds course there in 1961. My leap into the world of an apprentice plumber was an introduction course at the old Salmon Pastures School on Attercliffe Road (the school was in use as a training center for the Building Trade).

    From the age of 15 to 18 you attended 2 evening and 1 day release class, from 18 to 20 you did 3 evening classes.

    At the age of 18 you became an improver and trusted to carry out small jobs independent from your Master Plumber mentor and became too valuable to the Firm for you to attend day release classes. You had a pay increase every year on your birthday up to the age of 21 when you were then payed the full union rate (on qualification) some Firms payed above the union rate!  A couple of fellow apprentices worked for Firm`s that required you to sign indentures binding you to that company for several years after serving your apprenticeship.

    The plumbing, heating and gas workshops at the Tech in Pond Street were all located on the lower tier of the original building.

     

    College of Technology.jpg


  13. 17 hours ago, Rich47 said:

    Great club, brilliant atmosphere as it was on 2 levels, remember looking down on the stage from balcony above and watching top acts of the day such as John Mayall, Spencer Davis ( Steve Winwood), Joe Cocker ( Vance Arnold + Avengers ) and others like Dave Berry, Alan Price etc. Top blues club when I went.

    lived at Bradway and traveled from there to Pond St bus station not far away from Leadmill Road, a lady called Nora was always in the bus station shouting, I think she used to sleep there.

    Great times indeed Rich47, I remember the night of the Police raid when they kept us all locked in and you couldn't leave until they had taken your name and address and checked it out with a Kelly's directory, didn't get home until 3am, walked all the way home to Greenhill!

    When I first started going to the Esquire it was a Jazz Club at the weekend and a Pop Club during the week or vice versa, also went to Club 60 the other Night Club owned by Terry Thornton located in the cellar of a building somewhere along Shalesmoor.


  14. On 11/12/2018 at 20:02, RLongden said:

    As a buyer for my company in the 80’s, I used to purchase from Steadfast Tools, who used to specialise in screwdrivers, many of which we had own-branded....

    https://www.gracesguide.co.uk/J._Stead_and_Co

    i never realised their origins and I think they were eventually swallowed up by Neill Tools?

    J Stead and Co became part of the Balfour Darwin Group in 1961! The Plumbing firm I worked for carried out the plumbing maintenance for the group and during the long cold winter of 1963 i think I worked at most of the group's premises.

    The Sheffield Forge and Rolling Mill at Millsands and a Wire Mill at Kellam Island.

    Andrews Toledo on Neepsend Lane.

    Wardsend Works on Penistone Road and a Stockyard on Livesey Street.

    A Forge and Rolling Mill at Beeley Wood and the Fitzwilliam Works on Sheffield Road, Tinsley.


  15. On 07/02/2019 at 19:22, KateR said:

    Thank you so much ! Yes, the corner shop at the junction of Brooklyn and my grandparents house just along ,one of a terrace with a passage running down the middle of the terrace to give access to the backs .  So many memories , especially the sad day that they had to leave when demolition was due, they were moved to a bungalow on Cambridge Rd , off Kent Road, but life wasn't the same for them, they were in early 90`s when they left Albert Road in , I think 1982 ish . Thank you again .

    Cambridge Rd, That brings back some fond memories KateR, My Mother always dragged me along when she went to visit one of her old Aunties who live just off there in the 1950s.  We caught the tram from the top of Meadowhead (can`t remember how we got to Heeley Green) we would then walk down Kent Road.

    A couple of Photographs from Picture Sheffield showing the top of Kent Road just as i remember it from the 50s and one as it looks now from Google Earth.

    Can anyone remember who the three wheel truck belonged to, or when the slaughter house was last used?

    Kent Road.jpg

    Kent Road 2.jpg

    Kent Road 3.jpg

    Kent Road 4.jpg

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