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  1. hilldweller

    Mowson Lane, Worrall

    It appears that the route was selected to avoid built up areas, considering that the pipeline can carry some dangerous liquids including aviation fuel and petrol. Remember Buncefield ? hilldweller
  2. hilldweller

    Mowson Lane, Worrall

    You may well ask. It seems to me that sucessive governments have been only too eager to sell off the nation's family silver. Whatever became of the notion of keeping strategic necessities "in house", so as to speak. Don't get me on about Brexit, I'd gladly take a 20% cut in income and pay 20% more for goods in order to be shot of that completely un-democratic, unelected and un-accountable bunch of shysters telling us what we can and can't do. If I live long enough to need another car I'll buy an electric car, made by a Japanese company and produced in the North East.
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    Mowson Lane, Worrall

    The bit of the pipeline that runs locally was part of the link between Rawcliffe and Bramhall. We picked it up at the pumping station and mothballed distribution depot at Black Bank near Oxspring. From there it runs along Wharncliffe Chase, past the crem at Grenoside, down under the Don by Middlewood Tavern, up past Worral, down Long Lane to cross the River Loxley by Rowall :Lane. It then runs up and over the Stannington Ridge and down to cross the Rivelin by the bottom of Lodge Lane. It runs up the fields to the hairpin junction on Lodge Lane and the through side gardens to the junction with Redmires Road. At this point it crosses to the other side of Blackbrook Road and through front gardens to a point just past Rochester Road where it bends at right angles and runs over the fields up to Fulwood Lane. From there it runs across the fields to Ringinglow Road, turns at a right angle, and follows this out to Upper Burbage Bridge, down Callow Bank, around Hathersage, Hope and Castleton. It then runs up the right hand side of the Winnetts Pass under the wide grass verge and at the top runs across to Bramhall. It was just past this point that a JCB damaged the pipeline and I understand the clean-up costs ran into millions. I hope this answers your question. hilldweeler
  4. hilldweller

    Mowson Lane, Worrall

    As the article states the WW2 Pluto network was found unsuitable for further use and abandoned. It was replaced by the present network, the local bits were installed in the 1950's. There was a small pumping station / depot for the old network, located at Calver Sough where the car park of the present shop / cafe is nowadays. A long diagonal depression in the Calver Cricket Ground pitch was found to be due to the collapse of the old pipeline. My brother in law, sadly no longer with us, used to work at the spa processing plant up above Stoney Middleton and when they were digging a service tunnel under the road to link two parts of the plant they came across the severely corroded pipeline. I believe the bit of the modern pipeline running through the outskirts of Sheffield is still operational because they still overfly the route every couple of weeks and it's only a year or so ago that I saw the bloke with a instrument strapped to his chest and carrying two ski-stick probes making his way through peoples front gardens in Lodge Moor. He is checking the efficiency of the cathodic protection on the pipeline. The leases of the properties contain a covenant from the MOD giving the bloke access. It's only a few years ago when they replaced worn sections of the pipeline at Lodge Lane and Upper Burbage Bridge.
  5. hilldweller

    Mowson Lane, Worrall

    No, that is almost certainly WW2 air raid shelter, probably provided for the use of the people living in the surrounding properties. Or it could have been a Home Guard Post on the road up to Worral. I was refering to this. I missed the shelter on my armchair Google tour of the area. Incidently the heavy power cables in the background are one of two 66Kv links from Deepcar to the Cement Works at Hope. It was run from the old YEB area when the East Midlands supplies out there were too weedy to supply the Hope Works. hilldweller
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    Mowson Lane, Worrall

    I am not in a position to wander far from Hilldweller Towers, but I wonder if you are refering to a structure in the field over the wall on the left as you drive down what has at this point becomes Stockarth Lane. Just over the wall in front of it is a little five bar gate gizmo which gives the clue to what it is. The gate is the marker to show the line of the oil pipeline which forms part of a national pipline network connecting oil refinaries and depots all around the country. The pipe is of a considerable diameter and depth and contains oil products at very high pressures. Because it is not a contour pipeline the operating pressure is highest near the low parts of the line and following some ruptures and spillages, valve houses were installed at lower points to limit the escape of oil when excessive flows (escapes ) occur. I think that is what the structure which has a removable lid is. The entire original system was installed by the government in the 1950's, at the height of the cold war, to enable oil to be transported around the country in times of national emergency. I believe it is now operated privately. The little five bar gates are falling into disrepair in some cases but tall white steel poles with a yellow pent roof and a black stripe across it give guidance to the helicopters which fly over it on a regular basis. The only reason I know about this is because we once bought a bungalow at Lodge Moor which had the pipeline running through the front garden about 15 feet from the house and quite understandably I went into it further. A then young nephew and I had great fun tracing it's route across Yorkshire and Derbyshire by following the little five bar gates. I hope that I am not being indiscrete but the entire urban route of the line is marked by little roadside signs stating "Oil Pipeline" "In case of emergency ring so & so". There is even one sited in front of the struture. I think the Russians probably knew about it before it was laid. Co-incidently I remember my father and I talking to the gangs who were laying the pipes across the Loxley Valley in about the mid fifties. I took me about 50 years to find out what they were for. Hilldweller
  7. hilldweller

    Mystery building

    The Plot Thickens. I've found a large scale OS map dated 1974/79 on old-maps.co.uk which is copyright 'so I can't post it on here. It shows that the entire plot from the first of the terraced houses, No59, until the boundary with out-buildings at the bottom of the Burgoyne Arms pub yard, has been cleared. This includes the site of our mystery building. It looks as though the present buiding was rebuilt, possibly using some of the demolition rubble from the archway building. It looks as though Neddy was right with his 2007 post. hilldweller
  8. hilldweller

    Mystery building

    I'll chuck my twopenneth in. Entry in my 1942 Kelly's Directory. Don Johns(Chemists) Ltd Wholesale Chemist 2 Birdwell Road Sheffield 9 Laboratories:- 47 Cuthbert bank Road Sheffield 6 I must say that it looks like the place where a lone mad scientist might dwell hilldweller
  9. hilldweller

    Can you do this?? Mobile phone users a challenge!!

    My phone is a "grandads" Doro clamshell, years old and still going strong. I keep it in my jacket pocket where it's spends most of it's life with a flat battery. As I never go out without my jacket (even in this weather) and I never go out without the car ( I can't). It's there for emergency use only and if it's flat then it can be brought back to life with a car charger adapter. I don't subscribe to social media (otherthan this forum) and I'm all the happier for that. The number of people that know my number are limited to about 5 persons and I can't remember the last time it rang. Up The Luddites.
  10. hilldweller

    Beer and steelworks

    There was a pub called the Rising Sun on Hunshelf Road at Stocksbridge directly across the road from the billet mill. In the billet mill large ingots were rolled at yellow heat down into blooms of say up to 4" plus square, and then cut up on a hot saw into lengths to suit the customers. In an early application of technology the blooms were measured for length and a very early computer made by Elliot Automation determined the best cuts to make out of a given length to suit the various customers. The computer use first generation germanium transistors and had a 1K magnetic core store for it's memory. The pub was obviously very (too) convenient for the parched workforce and I was told the Fox's had bought out the licence and closed and demolished the pub in 1967. My connection with this came in the early nineteen seventies when I parked my A35 van (Wallace & Gromit Mobile) on the cleared ground of the pub in order to carry out the " Redex Treatment". This consisted of running around until the engine was hot, parking up, removing the air filter; and pouring a can full of Redex engine detergent/cleaner into the top of the carb. This was supposed to clear the valve stems and piston rings and restore performance. It also produced huge quantities of black smoke. When I started this procedure I had failed to notice the large billet mill high voltage substation downwind just a few yards away. I'd also forgotten that large substations often used photo-electric ray fire detection in case of fire in the oil-filled switchgear. I'd just got about half the can of Redex in the engine and couldn't see a hand in front of my face when there was a loud bang from the substation and the loud whine from the billet mill opposite wound down to a worrying silence. The penny dropped ! I flung the air filter inside the car, shut down the bonnet and was speeding back down the hill in the opposite direction to where I knew the high voltage gang would be approaching within about ten seconds. My stealthy departure was not helped by a smoke trail that the Red Arrows would have been proud of. I think I got away with it 'so don't tell anyone. hilldweller.
  11. hilldweller

    The Food Police !

    Having a taste for savoury foods I've always been fond of cream crackers with cheese. This last couple of years I've been disappointed to find that cream crackers of any brand are now baked to an insipid off-white colour instead of the rich golden brown that they used to be. They don't crunch any more but rather melt into slush under your molars. I used to enjoy the cheese flavoured "Chedders" but they too, seem to be baked to a Dulux Colour Chart shade of off/white magnolia and are so bland as to make you retch. My solution is to properly bake the crackers , ten at a time, under the grill to a rich golden brown. Don't tell anyone, the Food Police will be knocking at my door. It would appear that the "Food Police" have ruined things yet again by instructing manufacturers not to bake food as they used to in case it produces acrylamide, a substance that might, possibly, perhaps, cause cancer if administered to rodents in MASSIVE doses. We can't have suger in our drinks any more, must not drink more than one unit of alcohol every Preston Guild and chips apparently cause instant death. We don't eat ready meals, I eat lean red meat almost every day and consume quantities of full-fat cheese, my cholesterol levels continue to amaze my GP, coming in south of 4.5 every time. The local Lincolnshire sausage can be grilled to a nice deep chocolate brown and is very tasty if you ignore the green bits in it. For the first twenty years of my life, breakfast consisted of toast done with a long home-made toasting fork in front of a coal fire. The best efforts produced toast that varied across the slice from raw bread to carbonised charcoal. I might not live to be a hundred and twenty, (who would want to), but at least I will have enjoyed my food. hilldweller
  12. hilldweller

    Mimimoking

    My wife came out with an expression this morning I've not heard in a long time. She told me someone was "mimimoking" behind someone's back. I knew that she meant using silent facial expressions to express disbelief at what a person was saying. Is this a Sheffield expression or is it something my wife brought with her from her native Derbyshire Dales earlier life ? Any ideas ? hilldweller
  13. hilldweller

    Kelly's Directories

    I'm afraid it would be a very short book, Thorntons Girl. My walking days covered only a few years from my mid teens to my early twenties. As I've explained before I've suffered from Lympoedema problems from my late teens, caused by a congenital absence of lymph vessels in my legs. An attempt at an experimental surgery in my thirties only made the situation worse and things have gone downhill ever since, but at least they tried. I bought a huge mobility scooter some years ago, (I'm now on my third), and I used to enjoy "walks" on that but the onset of joint problems means that's now too painful. We've got a very nice car with a smooth ride and I shall use that to have a run out. I've got my memories of some wonderful places to fall back on. Keep On Walking ! hilldweller
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    Kelly's Directories

    It's all such a long time ago but some of the best walks I had were in the Lake District in the nineteen sixties. Equipped (or should that be ill-equipped) with a very cheap pair of what were described as "fell boots" and sold by Millets for about five bob, I managed to walk along Striding Edge to the top of Helvelyn without falling off. I chickened out at "The Chimney" and took the bypass. Memories of camping at Glenridding and chugging up and down all day on the little Ullswater steamer, (the bar sold draught Guinness while ever away from shore). The local pub didn't do any meals apart from chicken and chips in a basket, but after a days walk it tasted great, despite the baskets being coated with thick grease from previous meals. I remember tearing around Lake Coniston in a tiny hired speedboat when I went too close to the shore and didn't notice a spit of sand to the left. The boat stopped as if it had run into a brick wall and I went sailing over the prow into the shallow water. Unfortunately there was a large brass mooring cleat fastened atop the prow and for the next two weeks I was moved within the choir from the bass/baritones to the trebles . The view of Tarn Hows ,the day we saw it was surreal, It looked completely artificial, like a Agfa print with 200% saturation. We climbed the Langdale Pikes one day, up and down all the way around. We were sat eating our snap on a wonderfully hot sunny August day, prior to our descent, when we spied a very strange small black cloud coming along the valley. As it neared us it began to rise to breast the peaks and suddenly we were being pelted with huge painfull hailstones. We took off our parkas and held them above our heads to protect us. My favourite spot was a tiny lake above Keswick called Dock Tarn. We sat there for ages completely alone with no sound but the buzz of hundreds of dragonflies. Happy Days, as they say. hilldweller.
  15. hilldweller

    Kelly's Directories

    Thank you THYRACINE for your good wishes. The MG is mostly under control and with the agreement of my specialist I've been very gradually reducing my dosage of steroids with the aim of coming off them completely eventually. Unfortunately my symptoms started returning and I've had to increase them to a maintenance dose indefinately. I began to lose strength in my hands and legs and things came to a head when I had to ask a slip of a girl filling her car at the next pump to unscrew my car filler cap. My walking is very poor because my left knee has completely collapsed and surgery is out of the question. It's being so cheerful that keeps me going. hilldweller.
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