Jump to content


Sheffield History Member
  • Content Count

  • Joined

  • Last visited

  • Days Won


Everything posted by emo924

  1. Many, many thanks to both Edmund and dunsbyowl1867 for their very quick replies. And the wealth of information they have given me - far more than I ever expected and I am extremely grateful. Has helped me with a much more rounded picture of the recipient of the silver vesta than I could have hoped for. Thanks again Chris
  2. If anyone has any information at akl on Leslie Norman Stubbs, born 1889 in Rotherham - died 1950 in Sheffield, I would be grateful to receive it. He played for Sheffield United Cricket Club certainly in 1919 and more than likely the years adjoining and was later the chairman of the Cricket Committee. He was also a member of Yorkshire County Cricket Club. The SUCC may have won honours in 1919 as he was presented with a silver engraved vesta commemorating his playing for the cricket club, Many thanks Chris
  3. Here is a picture of George's medals - British War and Victory plus a gold 'Welcome Home' medal given to him by the citizens of Hibbert where it appears he was living before the war. This would suggest that after the war he returned to Canada before coming home to England where he died in 1987. Chris
  4. Many thanks to those who have posted this extra information. I am very grateful. I researched as far as I could when I acquired the medals - or at least as far as I thought I could - but wasn't aware his parents were buried in City Road. A visit is on the agenda now. His daughter appears to have lived on Derbyshire Lane, Norton for several years. I am sure that she would have been living there when I was living literally a couple of hundred yards away - another coincidence in a small world. I clearly need to revisit his life story so again many thanks for providing further incentives. I still have George's medals. Chris
  5. Hi ianb To my eternal shame I have only just returned to this topic - probably far too late to be relevant to the previous posts now. I was also in Osborn House. I left in 1965. I remember Spike quite well although he never taught me - lucky for him as that would have been a trial for sure. I also remember John Brennan - once sent me for the cane as he accused me of cheating in a test - for once I wasn't so was particularly aggrieved. The was Mr Gomm - Chemistry - a Rowlinson old boy - 'Connie' Stephens who I think taught chemistry too - maybe after Mr Gomm had left. Yak would have had troubles trying to teach me maths for sure no matter how proficient he was. My favourite subjects were English and French. In later years our English teacher was Bob Etchells who also oversaw the school cricket team. I was lucky enough to play in it in my final year. I did not enjoy my shool years very much at all. I struggled academically (one measly O level) and truly believe I didn't develop the capacity to learn until I had left. Nevertheless of course it played a big part in my upbringing and despite my general alck of enjoyment there were many friends and times etc I remember fondly.
  6. Seeking any information on : Matthew Clarke - served as Sergeant / Colour Sergeant and Company Quartermaster Sergeant - 8329 / 4736243 with the 1st Battalion of the York and Lancaster Regiment. Was awarded the Meritorious Service Medal in 1918 (London Gazette dated 31st May) Born in Sheffield in 1888, his parents were John and Annie and the family mostly seem to have lived at Dunfield(s) in Neepsend. Any information at all would be very gratefully received. Thanks
  7. Hi A friend has told me of a book he purchased recently but the title of which he couldn't remember off-hand this morning which details Sheffield veterans of both the Crimea and the Indian Mutiny. He seemed to think that Greybeards may form part of the title. Does anyone know this book and it's correct title? And/or where I might be able to buy a copy? Many thanks Chris
  8. I am currently researching : Corporal / Sergeant 4661 John DALE of the Yorkshire Light Infantry. John's picture appears in the book : SHEFFIELD AT THE FRONT - in that image he can be seen proudly wearing his India General Service Medal which he earned in 1897/8. He went on to serve in the Boer War thus earning further medals - the Queen's and King's South Africa Medals. He was taken prisoner by the Boers in December 1900 at Nooitgedacht being released later. His service papers have not survived it seems so once more I have been trawling the other available records. I believe I have potentially identified him as the John Dale who was born in Sheffield circa 1875. He appears on the census for 1881/1891 and 1911 but not 1901 when, if it is the right man, he would have been serving in South Africa. This John Dale was married in1905 to Rosa Annie Marsh. The marriage certificate (a copy of which I have) suggests that at this time John was a 'Policeman'. However, by 1911, he had clearly left the service and was working as a 'Municipal Museum Attendant'. He died in 1949 and is buried in Crookes Cemetery ( I haven't as yet had chance to go and find the headstone) What I am endeavouring to establish, in the absence of Army records, is if the John Dale I have found is the same man who served in the Army as described. Any help would be very gratefully received.
  9. No worries at all Roger . Thanks for this latest addition to the growing file on Edwin. Thanks for all your help . Chris
  10. Thanks once again Roger I suspected it may be possible to establish an enlistment date from his service number. I will see what else I can find also. Regards Chris
  11. Plus of course if I had read the information you posted before posting a copy of the actual page I would have noticed this straight away. Patience has clearly never been my strong point!
  12. Roger Ignore my last diatribe. I have just read through the Soldier's Effects form again - this time using a magnifying glass and the 'Sarah' has been corrected to 'Clara' in September 1919. So, the mystery is solved and this is my Edwin Hancock for definite. Thanks again for all your help. Chris
  13. Good Morning Roger Once again many thanks indeed for your generous help. In the absence of his service papers I was trying to establish as much information on Edwin, to positively identify him, as I could but was therefore restricted to births, marriages, census etc on Ancestry. As I am sure you are familiar with, there is also the facility of checking on who else might have been researching the same person and on looking at that link I found two family trees - both of these dealt with that Edwin Hancock who was born, as I say, circa 1877/8. Now you could be forgiven for thinking that those researching had just dropped on this man and made certain assumptions but at the same time it occurred to me that someone within those families would recognise other family names thus confirming this was the right Edwin Hancock. However, if it is the right Edwin, then the Register of Soldier's Effects etc throws a small spanner in the works as his wife and sole beneficiary is called 'Sarah'. Records for the Edwin I thought it to be show that his wife was called Clara not Sarah (this could of course be an error on behalf of the compiler of this record as the names do sound slightly similar) However I can't now find a Sarah Hancock who was married to an Edwin. I had hoped that there may be a mention of his death in the local press which might have included either details of relatives or even an address but it seems this will not be the case although I do intend to check later in the week - a laborious process but one which might prove beneficial even though it seems that your newspaper checks have not revealed a possible article after all. A frustrating but still fascinating business - I enjoy the research aspect of my collecting as much as the collecting itself if not more. Many, many thanks again. Regards Chris
  14. Firstly - thanks syrup for posting this article which I greatly appreciate . You have saved me some trouble. Roger - thanks for your link but unfortunately my Ancestry subscription is one level below that which would enable me to view the Soldiers effects pages. Many thanks to you both for taking the time and trouble to respond . Chris
  15. Roger That's very helpful of you and very much appreciated. It should make it much easier for me to locate the article. I was looking in the Independent and not the Telegraph which I don't think is available on-line anyway. I have Edwin Hancock's First World War medals hence my interest in him. The avatar is a great image. Neither of my grandfathers served in the Great War but my maternal Great-Uncle was killed on the 1st of July 1916. Thanks again Chris
  16. Roger I know I am playing on your good nature but do you have the date of the newspaper in which this appeared. I have checked the Independent on the British Newspaper Archive without success. Regards Chris
  17. Hi Roger Thanks for this too - it certainly sounds like him. I am at the library later this week and will have a look in the newspapers of the period - any idea when he was actually sentenced? Chris
  18. Roger Many thanks for this information. The age is certainly right for him and if he was a Sheffield man that makes it more likely too. Plus from 1901 onwards he was employed as a Horse Slaughterer which although a stretch may mean his place of employment also dealt with sheepskins which might have given him the idea to steal some. Is this information on Ancestry or some other source? Cheers Chris
  19. Private 3/2043 Edwin Hancock, Kings Own Yorkshire Light Infantry. Edwin Hancock was killed on the 7th of May 1915. Unfortunately there are no service papers for Edwin. Information found so far suggests that this man is the Edwin Hancock born at Park, Sheffield c. 1877/8. This would have made him app 37 by the time the 1st WW broke out which seems a little old. This man is on the 1911 census still living and working in Sheffield and therefore suggests he would have been older than the usual recruit even had he enlisted between 1911 and 1914. I would be grateful for any information at all which might clarify the issue. Many thanks. Chris
  20. Southside Many thanks for this information - every little bit helps. Chris
  21. Hi I am researching the family of Job Holland, one of the founders of Pickford, Holland. Job was born in Sheffield c. 1867 and married Eva Dearden in 1892. They later lived at The Gables, Grindleford, Derbyshire. Their son Frank was killed in action in the First World War. I am particularly keen to know what became of Job and Eva and also their son, Clifford Stanley, born in 1904. I have been unable to find any trace of them after 1917. Any help at all would be very wwelcome. Thanks Chris
  22. Stuart Many thanks for taking the time and trouble to respond - much appreciated. His family moved about a little. From their Northumberland/Durham roots, they moved first to West Yorkshire, then South (Deepcar) before moving to the Midlands after or during the war. The father, Robert was a Pit Deputy so no doubt the frequent moves were driven by his work. It does seem though that Charles remained in the Deepcar area until his death in 1958. Do you know if, during the war years there was any kind of newspaper local to Deepcar/Stocksbridge? There is certainly no picture of him in the Sheffield newspapers of the time although there may have been a mention of the award of his DCM - I haven't as yet had the chance to check. Regards and thanks again Chris
  23. I am seeking any information at all on Charles Ashley Shute - Sergeant/2nd Lieutenant, York and Lancaster Regiment. Charles was born in Northumberland in 1895. By 1911 he was living at Outwood near Wakefield but sometime between then and the outbreak of the 1st WW his family moved to Deepcar where they lived at Low Wood Villa. Charles enlisted into the 1/4th Y&L - The Hallamshires before being commissioned in 1918 and being attached to the 13th Bn. He won the Distinguished Conduct Medal for gallantry during a trench raid in 1916 and then was awarded a Military Cross whilst serving with the 13th Battalion. He married Gertie Challis (who was born in Bolsterstone) at Wortley in 1918 and they had two children, Ruth born in 1919 and Charles born in 1925. Charles Shute died at Sheffield in September 1958 and Gertie died in 1974. Any information at all would be gratefully received, Thanks
  24. Good Afternoon I am researching Percy Warriner, Private 11238, York and Lancaster Regiment who died of wounds on the 30th August 1915. He is buried in Chatby Cemetery, Alexandria. He had been wounded during the Gallipoli campaign. I know that he was married to Ruth and for a time they lived at 31 Darwin Road, Sheffield. If anyone has any information/photos/anything at all, I would be very pleased to hear. Thank you. Chris