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  1. Hello, Was the Synagogue always at Bailey Street or located in different places in the downtown core at different times? (I'm not confusing this with the present Synagogue on Wilson Road) I was always told that the Synagogue had been at the upper end of North Church Street, just below Campo Lane. In my childhood: say the 1940s, the location pointed-out to me was just a bombed-our ruin and remained that way for quite a few years. Eventually, the site was clear and new buildings erected. I haven't been down North Church in 40 years but seem to recall one of the building that later occupied the site was an ELIM Church. Regards
  2. Hi, I seem to remember your grandfather was also a Past President of the Institution of Production Engineers. Regards
  3. Hi, As mentioned earlier, LNER A4 - Dwight D. Esienhowver is also on display at the Green Bay Museum, infact it has prideof place alongside UP 4017. When the A4 was sent to the US, the shipment included the passenger coach (car) Eisenhower used during his stay in England. This is coupled behind the locomotive. Section members probably know more about the history of these two exhibits than I do. One other thing. The photo may give the impression there is damage to the lower parts of the side sheeting: below the nameplate and extending towards the cab. But its not damage, its reflections from other exhibits across the way. The sheeting is in fact in very good condition and highly polished. Regards
  4. Hi, Here, hopefully, are a few more compressed pictures of big boy. As I mentioned before, the shear size of it is impressive. For instance, I'm 5ft-8in (or used to be). So you can get some indication of the scale of the beast. The construction was also impressive. Just look at all those rivets. Last but not least was the footplate: Suprisingly small for a loco of this size. Of course, it had a mechanical stoker so you didnt need extra space for a fireman to swing his shovel. It was also Right-Hand Drive. I know why Canada had right hand drive but dont know if the same reasoning applied south of the border. Regards
  5. Hi, Thanks for info. Will get right onto ezthumbs. In the meantime, this cruder version of the photo might work. Regards
  6. Hello, Forgive me if I'm breaking the Section's rules but I thought you might like to see this. On May 19/20th, my wife and I were on our way to see our son in Minnesota and had an overnight stop in Green Bay WI, Before leaving town we spent a couple of hours in the Railway Museum there. As many of you know, The US didn't preserve a lot of their railway history and what has been saved is spread all over the country. Although its called the "National" its relatively small museum but they do have a Big Boy (hopefully photo attached). I was ready for its size but even then it does tend to take your breath away. Some of the detail, such as the rivetting around the firebox, is really impressive. They also have the classic Pennsylvania RR GG1 Electric locomotive (seen behind Big Boy). The museums is also home to the old LNER A4 "Dwight D. Eisenhower", displayed in its later BR livery. Regards PS having difficulty attaching photo due to file size. Will keep trying
  7. Hi, This quote reminded me of a bit of personal history on this topic: My wife and I were married at Nether Congregational Church* on Norfolk Street in the early 1960's. As this was defined as a "Dessenting Place of Worship", most likely under the same legislation refered to above, the "Bann's" were not "Read" in the church but had to be "Posted" on a special notice board inside the entrance of the Surrey Street Registry office. I remember we had to go down to the office on a particular Saturday morning prior to the wedding, to make sure they were up on the board and everything was in order. Other couples were there doing the same thing. Then on the day of the wedding, a Registrar was at Nether and we signed the Register in his presence. * The old Nether church buildings were demolished in the late 1960's(?). The present Central United Reform Church occupies most of the original site.
  8. Hi, Pictures Sheffield should have shot of the Registry office at Surrey Street; however, this was not the 'original' site of the office. Before Surrey Street, the office was in the Corn Exchange on Sheaf Street. Not even sure if the Corn Exchange was the original site either. Regards
  9. Hello, I remember this building well, as it was across Shrewsbury Road from our Doctor's surgery. In my early childhood (say the1940's) it was empty: however, at the end of the war, it became a tyre depot. Big wooden doors were fitted where the front entrance used to be. On my last visit to the area, the church had been demolished but the front yard had been kept and used as a sort of lookout. You always had good view of the city from there. The location was always the coldest and windiest place in winter. I never knew what happened to the congregation. I always assumed those that were left moved along the street to Talbot Street Methodists. As for the records, a good place to try is the Victoria Hall on Norfolk Street. Methodist Churches used to be organized in to various "circuits" and back then, Victoria Hall was headquarters for one or more of these. Regards
  10. Hello, If you were expected to use the shop door on a 45 deg. angle, that would be in the old part of the works, corner of Stanley Lane and Joiner Lane. You certainly had your-work-cut-out manoeuvering a low loader in there. Come to think of it, Snow's shop doors never had good truck access, even the one in the new (1951) part. Regards
  11. Hello, Two things: 1 - That's Park Iron Works (PIW) with a suprising amount of detail shown on the Map(s). If you are interested, I could tell you the use of each building. Because many things on the site were at different levels, there were few interesting archtectural wrinkles that obviously don't show up on the map. I spent a year (1952) at PIW as an office boy before my apprenticeship and used to go prowling around the site on my lunch hour. This got me into one or two scrapes as well. 2 - I was always lead to believe that the Davy Brothers moved from Millsands and built the PIW in 1842, however, more recent information I've found suggest the works may have been there for more than 40 years. This came in G.R. Vines' "The Story of Old Attercliffe - Part 2" (another of Eric Youles amazing transcripts) and has the following reference: "In 1787, Booth, Binks,Hartop & Co. were iron founders, probably at the Park Iron Works - now Davy Brothers. In 1797, the firm was Jno. Booth & Co., Iron Founders, Sheffield Park. In 1833, Booth & Co. were coal merchants, having the Tinsley Park Colliery Wharf at the Canal Basin, and Iron Masters at the Park Iron Works" The quote then goes on to describe a Mr. Thomas Booth of Tinsley Park Colliery as a very impressive and Important man in the 1830's., however, by 1843 things seem to have taken a turn for the worst. In "The Jurist " No. 365 (London, December 9th, 1843) there is a notice of a meeting to be held on January 9th, 1844, in the District Court of Bankrupcy, Leeds, regarding a Mr. Thos. Booth of the Park Iron Works, Sheffield and the Tinsley Park Colliery, Rotherham. I haven't found anything that would confirm that Thos. Booth was in fact declared "Bankrupt;" however Davy Brothers may have bought PIW from the Receiver although I dont know where to find confirmation of this. Regards
  12. Hi, My mother had a thing that she called a "Tea Infuser" The main part was really a tea spoon with holes in the bowl. Ours had a hinged flap that was really the perforated bowl from another teaspoon. To use it, you put tea in the main bowl, closed the flap and then swished it around in a cup of boiling water. It was supposed to be for single cups of tea but it never beat a "cuppa" from a pot. It did however, save you from a mouth full of tea leaves if you couldn't find the strainer. (our strainer seemed to have legs - sound familiar?) Speaking of tea reminds me of something else. Those of you who still remember the old Corn Exchange will also recollect there were various small businesses, and even a pub (The Maunche) in the outside of the building at street level. One of these was a restaurant called "Kidders". This opened early in the morning to serve the workers when the fruit and veg market was still across the street at Castlefolds. It was very popular but had a certain notoriety in our family, for members would only go there early for a cuppa. According to my long-departed Grandmother, if you went later in the morning, you were likely to get something called "Kidder's Fresh Mash". This was never explained. Regards PS - Remember the old Fire Guards that wrapped right around the fireplace? Something else that has passed into history.
  13. Hello Richard, Can I stick-my-kneck-out and suggest this is the Don but in Attercliffe not Brightside, What leads me to this conclusion is the structural steelwork in the forground. It looks awfully familiar and could be the supports and underside of the tramway that brought coal wagons over Effingham Road and the Don, down to the Salmon Pastures Coal Yard on Attercliffe Road. If I'm right, the photo is a view looking upstream in the direction of the Leveson Street Bridge,at Norfolk Bridge. The bridge it'self would be beyond the buildings on the right. Effingham Road would be to the left of the steel trestle (shown on the left of the picture). All the buildings along the left would be the old Park Iron Works (PIW) of Davy Brothers/ Davy United (at that site from1842 to1957). I was an apprentice at Davy United (1953 - 1957) and was familiar with the Works. Later, the works belonged to Tempered Spring Co (?) and were still there when I took the Five Weirs Walk in Oct. 06. I understand they have since been demolished. The works were on two levels: The one nearest camera, would be the old foundry (moved to Darnall in the 1920s: later the site became steel stockyard), followed by the machine and erection shops. The shop floor in this part of the works was just above river-level, infact if there was a sudden flash-flood, water would shoot up through the drains and cover the floor in seconds. The old boiler shops( later the fabrication shops) was at the much higher Leveson Street level. These are the really high buildings shown in the distance. No idea who owned the works on the right of the picture, which must have been on Warren Street. Regards
  14. Hello, The name Stan Lilley sounds very familiar but i cant put a face to it I'm affraid. Interesting to note you Dad started at Davy United (D-U) and then went to Snow's while I lived at Snows and then trained at D-U. Talking about D-U, a genteman called "Lilley" was head forman in the 6 Bay installation shop at Darnall when I was an apprentice. Any relation? Regards
  15. Hi, The Pye Bank Road shown on the map used to be Pitsmoor Road. When they redeveloped the Woodside area in the early 1960s, It was decide to creat a new road through the area and this was given the name Pitsmoor Road. The section up from Mowbray Street was the same for both versions of Pitsmoor Road but once it passed over the railway, the new version vered to the left and made a much easier climb up the hill before reconnecting with the old road, near Christ Church. Because of differences in elevation and other problems, the lower end of the old Pitsmoor Road (now renamed Pye Bank Road) was disconnected from the rest of the road but this would have made it a dead end. Therefore, it was decided to connect it with Rock Street instead. This connection was a new piece of road that didnt exist before. Looking at the map, I would say the details were as it was in the early1960's when the old Woodside area and the area above the railway (ie. Marcus Drive, Neville Drive) had had been redeveloped. I drove up the new version Pitsmoor Road for the first time in the spring of 1964 and even then, it had been in use for some time. The Map also shows the older part around Nottinghams Street, Thistle Street, Verdon Street, etc. to still be in place. My mother lived on Thistle Street and that area wasn't wasn't cleared until the spring/summer of 1968. Regards
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