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  1. :blink: Makes sense now I'm longing on to some old website that all the pictures have been removed from! It works but not as we know it Jim Now had a good rummage on there. There is a problem with it though. Whenever you got more than 3 pages of pictures, when you try and select the next key it jumps around like a loony! So to get round this put the page number in the box and hit return. Also if you now save the Zoom image you can only save it as a bitmap file. Whereas they used to be JPEG, infact Archives were nuts about that format so I don't know why they changed it? Sorry guys but have to say that it's a change for the worse, with a harder to use and slower system than before. Lets' hope that the reason for this was a cheaper design or cost saving move, because if Sheffield Archives spent more on this change they were robbed :rolleyes:
  2. It seams a great deal of the pictures are out of action. Only one of the 4 links (above) shows an image, plus have tried 3 times (at different times of day) to look at the "Manor" images and they are all box with X Have just tried Woodthorpe and 38 boxes with X. :blink:
  3. There seems to be a problem with Picture Sheffield at the moment. All I'm seeing is boxes with red crosses in Has the computer gone on strike for a greater pension he he
  4. Well it's an excellent website for the Bbc! or BEEB or Baked Bean Company Seriously the plan is to put 200,000 pictures on the website, currently around 63,000 uploaded! Planned completion late 2012 B)
  5. There's one free on Internet archive, so you don't need to buy it :P
  6. I think you can see why the kids called them catfish from that mouth. That's the European one! Not to be confused with the American Catfish, which grow very long wiskers and grow to MASSIVE size anyway! I should imagine seeing that Sheffield water is cleaner then ever that the Bullhead will still be in the Porter. They like water rich in oxygen. In fact that was the biggest problem with Bullheads, getting them home! They would die from lack of air most times. However both the stone and weather loaches can take in air by the mouth, that's why they are called "weather" the air inside them responds to the air pressure during storms and they go mad! So you know when a thunderstorm is due! They have been kept for that purpose in Asian countries! There's currently a shop in crystal peaks that uses a weird looking fish to eat the dead skin off women's feet! I've known a Stone Loach rest on my feet while trying to catch them, but it didn't try to eat them!
  7. When I was a young lad I used to keep fish in tanks. I would catch them in local rivers and ponds take them home for my collection. I loved the odd looking fish, better than Sticklebacks and the like and of course I later went on to keep tropical fish. Again the odd looking ones! The most common odd looking fish in Sheffield Rivers are the Bullhead and Stone Loach. Bullheads are very common in the Sheaf, Stone Loaches are common in nearly all the rivers. You generally don't find them in ponds, unless they are connected via a river ie: a mill pond. I don't recall seeing any Bullheads in Rivelin though. Catching them is hard, not to diffcult for Bullheads, but loaches! Hell. There's only one way really. Wade in and lift the stones up carefully and have your net ready for it too swim in! While doing this once at Ford (Moss Brook) we caught a fish which wasn't in the native fish books we could find. It was a deep dark brown in colour and from my experiance of Tropical fish, it was a Loach. It wasn't a Stone Loach as they have a different mouth to it. In fact you can identify the 3 species of Loach from the mouth parts! I identified this fish as belonging to the Misgurnus group of Loaches, commonly called Weather Loach. The books I had mention a Weather Loach in Europe, but rarely in the UK. None were recorded in Sheffield, besides that this Loach didn't fit the description of the European one called Misgurnus Fossilis, which is much lighter in colour. On another occassion out a Rivelin near the kids area, while catching Stone Loaches a group of local lads said "caught any catfish yet?" To me. Wondering what they meant I talked with them and it was clear they were talking about this same Loach. They showed me where the best spot was and we all had a go without any succes, but they had caught them there I was certain of that. That was many years ago, but I still can't tell you what that fish was - the Catish Loach. Plus I don't know why it was't recorded? Perhaps it has now, does anyone know? Will post some images later - but not of the Catfish Loach!
  8. All over the place! You can look it up when Archives is back up and running under the Castle demolition accounts. There are some references to the sales of the Castle's stuff in Hunter's Hallamshire. Some I know and other material went to the Manor Lodge Site.
  9. It wasn't like that in 1332. For in the 1332 inquisition or Post Mortem into the death of Thomas Furnival (which by the way was held in Rotherham!) It says the the Castle is frail. This document puts a great deal on the value of things just like a will. And Sheffield Castle is worth NOTHING yes Zero! And later on in 1383 it's still worth nothing! So, in the 14th Century Sheffield Castle would have been as bad as Manor Lodge is today. I believe it wasn't rebuilt till John Talbot came along. It wasn't the only thing in a mess, the church too worth nothing. And two forges valued at an amazing £70, worth nothing, which are never recorded again. To put this in context the Lay Subsides of 1297 gave the whole of Sheffield a value of £8 and Rotherham £4. The cause a virulent disease hits in 1332 killing Thomas and a great deal of others, not the Black Death, unless it struck Sheffield much earlier than the rest of Europe And mass panic and destruction by those left alive is the only other conclusion I think explains it.
  10. Well I got a message saying too many media things added! Is it because I was using fast reply for it?
  11. Another Link, because the site doesn't allow two in one post http://manor-lodge.dept.shef.ac.uk/ This time for Archaeology @ Manor Lodge which contains lots of images of the Manor and some of the finds. B)
  12. Checked out the Manor website yesterday and it seems there are going to do some more digs this summer. Last time they did one they had a blog on it. Hope they do the same. They have also got another sum of money from the lottery! http://www.shef.ac.uk/archaeology/field-schools-index/manor-reports.html The above link should take you to report PDF's of the previous digs there [
  13. And if you want to know about the author the link below will help Life of John Holland
  14. If you get an E-Mail from something called Post Express do not open any attachments. It will say you have a parcel to collect that could not be delivered to your door. Well of course not because it's a VIRUS YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED ;-)
  15. Sheffield Indexers list of burials No Charles, but plenty of others: Keeton Sorry it simply takes you to the index You will have to add the name Keeton in surname box to list all.
  16. Are you talking about Sheffield Archives when searching? Because there is also the national one to check. If you have tried both, then maybe they died abroad. If you know the last known address it might be an idea to check the local church or cemetery records near where they lived. There's also the possibilty that a spelling error has occurred on the the surname, such as Kenton etc, in the index.
  17. Got a few more to add More from St John's Park. This one from the family who started White's Lane. You can see also the effects of acid rain on it too. The next was so big I had to do it in two parts as I couldn't get high enough to take the entire stone in. This one is connected to the Shrewsbury Hospital. Back to City Road for the next two First the Barkby's of "Cricket" presumably the Cricket Inn Road area. And a member of the Methodist Church. Then the tragic death of a child who lived at Milford House Norfolk Road.
  18. I allways find it helpful to visit a churchyard or local cemetery when doing any historical research. In fact they can be more helpful than going to a local history library when first starting out. For one thing all the information is contained in that area and you don't need an index. Of course the big cemeteries are often too big to cover in one visit and of course you need the weather on your side. A few church yards might be overgrown, but the biggest problems are those that have been cleaned up for the grass cutters to do the job. As often gravestones have been damaged in the process. Most people use church yards and the like for family history, but they can be much better than that. For instance finding the families of the buildings who lived in the streets nearby. With a digital camera it's so easy now to photo them and record details for future reference - a lot easier than when I started When I first started to record the information of tombstones I was writing them down in a notebook. The problem for me in doing that is that my hand speed is slower than about 70% of the population, so it took me ages to do it. So I came up with a clever way of doing it. I didn't have decent camera at this stage either and photo costs were high. So I hit on the idea of a small cassette recorder. The idea was that I would read the gravestone inscription and the machine would record my voice so I could then playback at home and write up my notes from that. However I didn't reckon on one thing, people in the cemetery wondering what I was doing. For there was I talking to a grave The only thing was people could not easily see the recorder, it wasn't a very small one (about 8" X 2") the ones with the piano keys, but still if I was facing the grave you might not have seen it. So any passers by must have thought I was talking to the dead I remember a couple of groundworkers at Intake Cemtetery looking very perplexed and then releaved when I told them what I was doing. Anyway I thought I would show you some examples of photo's I took at 3 Sheffield graveyards all good examples of local history. The first is from Attercliffe of William Morton a railway worker. Number two is from City Road connected with a famous sweet factory. The third is from Saint John's Sheffield Park, which has had most of the gravestones laid flat, which means the acid rain eats them away fast and people walk on them, such a shame for a brave soldier's grave.
  19. The Duke of Norfolk estate was very large and covered all over Sheffield not just the Park area. In fact the estate still has a great deal of land and buildings attached to it, including the Manor Lodge. Sheffield College is still there (on the Granville Road site) only because the Duke put a claus on the land that prevents the land being used for any other purpose other than education. The college at one time wanted to sell it off, they couldn't! Street names often give clues to who owned land. So a road with names connected with the Duke will be a clue it's connected. Another large land owner was the church.
  20. It seems he was killed twice then, first in 1855 then in 1955 lol
  21. Untill last year a great deal of the site was not touched by the diggers, but even last year's dig wasn't that extensive. I was told by those in the know that ploughing had occurred, after the site fell into neglect. And you can see it from the top of the Turret house roof, which I did back in the 90's. Pauline Beswick in charge of the digs, never dug around the chimney shown in the picture at the start of this thread, as you can see by the plan, that is why it's all just white space! However they did go into the celler section, where she and her team found traces of highly decorative plaster ceiling (like the one in the Turret house) and pieces of ornamental castellation stonework that can be seen on the chimney still standing. Which proves that it's allways looked like that! Don't forget too the diggers are not meant to add anything to the look of the site! <_<
  22. No they are ploughing. Below are the plan of the archaelogy on the site and also the geo phys done. Thanks for uploading the Google image guys I hoped one of you would do it as I would have messed it up ;-)
  23. It's worth checking out the Manor Lodge site on Google Earth. For you can see the traces of missing buildings and evidence of ploughing on the green bit between the Turret House and the standing remains.
  24. If your in Crystal Peaks check out the discount shop near the coffee and computer games shops, where the lifts near the hole. Last week they had some reduced price Sheffield History books in.
  25. Yes I have! There are a couple reports by ARCUS on them. They are on PDF and to big to upload, but I can E-Mail them if you PM me. One is titled "Archaeological Building Recording and Watching Brief: Manor Oaks Farm, Manor Lane, Sheffield."
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