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  1. Yes the other two freight lines were on the other side of them on platform five. They were put up to stop the passangers getting blasted by the north wind!
  2. Does anyone konw what the screen was made of that kept the north wind at bay on the final platform at Victoria. You can see it well in this image of Falcon in 1962.
  3. There is a used one on Amazon for around £26, but it looks like it's rare these days.
  4. 'Off License' phrase probably doesn't date back before 1900, though the Licence itself dates before 1800, with the scandal of the Gin drinking days. It clearly developed due to the need of selling alcoholic beverages for drinking at home and the use of celebrations. Off Licenses were used a lot by women, who did not like going into public bars, indeed in some they were not allowed!
  5. Have those vans always been with the company or where they found and had a makeover, because the company used to operate such vans? How did they survive not been cut up for scrap? It's a wonder that they haven't been hired out for use in films and drama series.
  6. After a bit more research it looks like by 1967 the area above the canal basin was converted to a Car Park, presumably to cater for the increasing need for parking in the city centre. It's ironic that those who predicted that small goods depots would not be needed and that the future would be Tinsley Yard, got it very wrong! In reality Tinsley Yard never achieved full capacity and the smaller goods yards would have been very handy today, with all the parcel traffic around. Of course the railways were never allowed to compete with Road Services for goods and even in the 60's and 70's charges were imposed on British Rail for goods traffic, that were easily undercut by road haulage, who were not paying for the environment costs that they were creating. There were some sidings left over the other side of the canal, which show up on the later 1969 maps, explaining the coaches and wagons on the 1969 picture. The bride to the yard over the canal was still in place but carried no tracks. It was later removed.
  7. I came across a photo of the station concourse dated to 1969. There clearly is a kiosk here, though you can't make out the owner it clearly looks like a Smith one. Interestingly too during my research I came upon several items that have survived the demolition of the site. There are a number of notice boards from the station at the National Railway Museum. However there are no images on line of them, probably not on display either. And a signal box name plate that went up for auction and sold to an unknown bidder. And to round it all off a train spotters note book for May 1965!
  8. Did Victoria have a WH Smith kiosk on any of the platforms?
  9. The old maps one a bit strange, it has some areas that are just about blank, but (for example) the railway tunnel of the midland line appears. Further down a whole bunch of lines just stops into a white block. Despite it saying 1963 on it, it is certainly a 1970 map. Since Victoria is closed on it. I would have thought that any SCC maps would be in Local Studies or the Archives. But there is no online search for either and explaining what is wanted in e-mail (which knowing the Council these days would be ignored) is not going to be easy. I would rather source them elsewhere if it is possible.
  10. I am really struggling to find large scale OS maps of the area around Victoria Station for the years 1966 to 1968. The same scale as the one's from the 50's on this site 1:1250. I know you can't reproduce them on here, but a full scale search of the internet has revealed not even a commercial source for them. Even the OS site itself has no mention of any maps early than 1960. There's nothing on E-Bay in that scale for Sheffield. The Scotland one has them, but only for Scotland. Don't know if Local Studies has them, or can supply copies of them.
  11. I am interested in the view north from wicker railway line around the late 1960's. Preferably 1968. So if anyone has the them post them. Or 1970's of the same.
  12. I am trying to determine if there was anything left of the Park Goods station after 1966 to 1969. I understand that it was supposed to have closed in 1963. Due to the Tinsley marshalling yard being opened in 1965. There is a picture of it still in operation captured with a photo of the Canal Basin, but the photo implies late 60's rather than earlier. I have tried to search for large scale maps from the late 60's, but had no results. I don't know if you can buy them. The O.S. site has no indication of maps, at least down to street level size, on their website. I have seen a picture dated to 1969 of the Flying Scotsman passing through Victoria, which shows some carriages parked up on the lines to the station. So that could mean that the tracks were still there at that time.
  13. I did manage to find a passenger timetable for 1968 on E-bay. But if that does included freight train movements it will be helpful. I was also wondering what was happening to the former Park Goods which linked to the Victoria line at this time? I understand it was closed in 1963, but were the tracks still there around 1967 to 1968?
  14. Anyone got any timetables for Victoria late 1960's?
  15. Presumably the people and firms living and operating on Sheaf Island had to be compensated when the Midland Station was built, just like now with the HS2 creation. So there must have been records of this. It would answer lots of questions for anyone interested in anybody operating or living on Sheaf Island.