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  1. He was recently detained by the police attempting to walk the River Don which passes through the Stocksbridge Steel Works. However he was spotted at that point and that's when the police was called in! The video's are called the 36DD.
  2. Most people outside those who worked for Sheffield Council and anyone connected with organisations that had a strong connection to the Council, have probably never heard of Central Supplies, but the council did have it's own base that supplied materials to the various Council departments. It was located on Staniforth Road in the building, which is now used by the Council's transport depot. I'm assuming that Central Supplies was closed down years ago, as I could find no reference to it on a Google Search before I started this thread. Presumably wiped out by cuts and the splitting off of departments of the Council? For those that have never heard of it. Central Supplies was basically a warehouse that stocked stuff for schools, stationary for the office staff of the Council departments and loads of other things. It even had it's own printing department that did Council leaflets etc. It's main advantage is that it was cheaper for the departments to get the supplies from there then it was to go to a commercial firm. I personally knew about it from my time running the Manor Mercury community newspaper. We had a community worker by the name of Tony Tingle who worked for Family and Community Services. He was able to use Central Supplies to get the paper and stencils for the Gestetner duplicator we had for printing the paper. I think the paper was half the price of commercial bought ream of paper. All the Sheffield Schools would have got the supplies of art paint, pens, pencils and writing books from there too. I'm not certain how they now get the supplies for the various departments, but with systems of operation being much more varied and some under private companies, such as cleansing. Having a Central Supplies now would be impossible to operate, I would have thought.
  3. Having recently purchased the book I think it's excellent value for money. It covers all the old yards in the South Yorkshire area too. And reveals what they had to do to construct the Tinsley Yard. As one railway official said, "there was a bloody big mountain in the way". They also had to drain an old colliery pumping house pond, which had over 1,400 fish in it, the fish were all moved to another lake in Rotherham. Fully detailed, it takes you to the closure and shows what is left on the ground.
  4. Probably based on the same large scale OS Maps from the 50's on this site. But even the OS didn't remove things from later editions of maps. I certainly had a street map like that, dated from the 1970's, which wasn't showing the Mansfield Road Fire Station built. The above map doesn't have it either. I recently got an OS map 1:25 000 which has a sticker on it for 70p. The legend says "compiled from 6" sheets last revised 1914-36. Other partial systematic revision 1938-50 has been incorporated. Major roads revised 1971. The copyright date in 1951. From this one must conclude that the OS people are either A: Idle sods or B daft! So you can use the map to see if there is a major road, or look for a railway goods yard that was closed in 1962 and quickly converted to a car park (the one next to Victoria Station) also shown on the street map! I wonder if the brand new OS maps (with all the latest tech they have now for mapping) still have new features on them and ones that have NOT existed for 20 or 30 years?
  5. I recall seeing vacant plots of land in the 1950 maps just back of the Wicker and I assumed they might have been destroyed buildings from the blitz. But while looking on the Britain from Above website I came across a 1937 aerial picture showing the same bits of land with no buildings on them! So they could not have been destroyed by bombs!! This is a great photo anyway because it shows a huge amount of trams congregating on the Wicker itself!
  6. Reply received. Not good news! As anyone on this site is aware nearly all the 1954 maps are available here. The 1970 map is just too late, as I am interested in the changes to the railway system, by that point Sheffield Victoria had closed and MASSIVE changes would have occurred to the railway infrastructure by that year. Also it falls into the copyright thing which limits what you can do. Following the lack of information map wise for the area between the Nunnery junction (where the line from the Midland joins the Victoria line) to the end of Woodbourne Road bridge, I had a look around for aerial photo's of the area. But again they are absent. Even on the Britain From Above website, even the earlier photos cut off just past the Junction. They then pick up the tracks after the triangle junction of Woodbourne. Since the plane was taking pictures of Nunnery Colliery. There are some photo's of the Nunnery Carriage Sidings on Picture Sheffield and one of Woodbourne Road bridge which appears to show some kind of Water Tower, but is not complete to make out the full structure. There's a good one on Flicker too taken from the bridge looking up the line to Sheffield, which again shows a tower, but again lacking enough detail. All the Nunnery Sidings ones on Picture Sheffield again don't show the full scope of the site. I find it really odd that there are more pictures of Sheffield Railways from before 1955 then there are then the later periods. Especially the aerial pictures. Which is really odd when you think about since there were more planes and even helicopters in the 60's and 70's then there was before. Perhaps they are waiting in vaults somewhere for the copyrights to run out for someone to upload them?
  7. I have e-mailed Local Studies for the 60's maps. They sent me a message back saying they will give me more information next week. I will let you know what happens. I identified the areas I need on four sheets. SK3787NE, SK3787NW, SK3687NE, and SK3687NW.
  8. When you say printed, was it a newspaper or a book?
  9. That's right the new houses on the Manor are being built by the BBC! Got you
  10. Tinsley and the Modernisation of Sheffield's Railways This is a recently published book by Chris Booth and Alex Fisher. Priced around £34 Amazon Link
  11. Looks like you have everyone stumped. It doesn't look like any street in Sheffield to me. The two church buildings seem wrong for Sheffield.
  12. The Real Thing close up 1937! What colour would it be? That is the question!!!
  13. How's this for a piece of luck! That carriage shed in model form! Bit shorter of course!! It even includes the platform staff walk on just like the real thing!!!
  14. I should have mentioned that the model will be based on the period 1966-1969 centred around 1967. However these pictures do show a great deal of detail, when you can zoom in. And some things were still around in the 1960's building wise. In the first picture is the triangle shaped roofs of the Nunnery Goods Station shown in the maps. The other long building survived to become a garage. The house round back with the fancy porch did not and there are some ground based views of it looking derelict. On the first picture too going towards the railway from the Goods Shed is the Nunnery Junction Signal Box, which survived to have it's photo taken in the 1970's in colour! Between them two is the Palissy Works (electrical). I did a search on Picture Sheffield for that and found nothing. So that might be the only image of the works. Ahead of it is another Carriage Shed, which stands on the Nunnery Carriage Sidings ground. That shed doesn't seem to have survived after 1960. There's also a good picture of the Carriage Shed at the other side. Later aerial photo's on the same site, show holes in the side and roof. So it might have been a wooden structure. In front of the white roof tool factory is the Number 5 signal box. The Victoria Station section had six in total, seven if you count that Number 3 was replaced and put nearer the station entrance. On the second picture you can just about see the Midland line emerging from under the Victoria line. The Council cleansing depot had a line running off the Midland to it, between the large shed of a building and the small two window building. On the road are two horses and carts and a tiny Sheffield bus that looks like a kids toy!
  15. Great mystery solved. It's no wonder I couldn't find it on the Sheffield History Maps as they don't cover that section! If anyone can locate any images of the buildings from Blast Lane to Lumley Street towards Woodbourn Road Bridge in the Lilac Area shown in this map it would be really helpful. The idea is to construct a 4mm Scale model of the section in Lilac. It might just stay a bit of idea as in that scale it would be about 70 foot long and 12 foot wide! Each track shown on the map would be 3cm wide. The Map shown is a later map and lots of changes to it!
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