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  • Birthday 22/07/1940

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    Born Hoyland, moved to Clowne, Derbys, then to Buxton in the High Peak.
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  1. Remember going to Maine Road for the Chelsea- Wed Semi in 1966. despite the score, and the fact that we were 'going to Wembley', the main thing that stays in my mind was the way Vic Mobley went down when he broke his leg. It must have been in the mind, because of the background noise, but I swear I heard the bone crack. The look on Vic's face when he realisd that he'd miss the Final said it all. I do remember him especially for the way he stayed on the field, hobbling about and unable to affect the game, except that by his staying on the field, he was tying up one of their players for the rest of the game. The heroics of the man! Anyone know where he is now?
  2. I know it's the other side of the Tyne, but virtually opposite is a small pllace called Primrose Hill, I believe that it's between Jarrow & Felling. One of our all time great squad players came from there - Gerry Young! He played in almost every forward position (and played his heart out) and finished up taking the place of Tony Kay at No.6 when he absconded to Everton with Harry Catterick. The one thing that almost broke Gerry's heart was letting a simple ball go under his boot during the 1966 final! Whilst talking to him afterwards, he said, with tears in his eyes, 'I honestly don't know how it happened. I saw the ball coming over and was concentrating on who best to give it to, and the ball slipped through when I took my eye off it for a second! It was a dreadful mistake and I cost us the cup!' He never forgave himself for that one slip, but remained an out and out Wednesday player who gave his all time and time again. Yes he gained international recognition, but never forgot that time. He was, and I presume still is, a GENTLEMAN in every way. Much as I admire Laws, his target for me is to achieve the status of his Tyneside predecessor.
  3. Wish someone had told my paternal grandmother that in 1960! On a weekend visit, she decided whilst the house was empty to clear out the Box room. She had a bonfire and burned a cherished Grandmother Clock in full working order, all my books about Mining (I was studying for my 'Manager's Ticket' at the time) and complete sets of Wednesday home programmes from 1949 along with countless away programmes. Dad always bought a programme, then carefully in pencil, marked in any changes (he had a superb hand) to the published teams, the goals scored in order, and by whom, the half-time score on the left and the full-time score on the right. The programme would be brought home in near mint condition, the pencil marks inked in, and the programme carefully stored. Dad's memory for football was phenomenal and he had this collection as a reference. I was brought up on the names of the 1929 Championship side, and the 1935 Cup winning side. They were like a mantra. He backed wednesday to win in 1935, but couldn't get a ticket, and listened to it on the wireless, getting drunk at the same time and being locked up for being drunk and disorderly afterwards. As you can imagine, he was a little displeased with his Mother after the bonfire! His one ambition was to go to watch Wed. at Wembley, an ambition realised in 1966 when we both came back from London crying our eyes out. I wonder what the collection would be worth now if I still had it? (not that I would part with it) Once an Owl always an Owl. My 'baptism' came in late 1946 when he started me going, aged 6yrs. We lived in Hoyland near Barnsley at the time, and although I now live in Buxton in the High Peak, I rarely miss a Home game.
  4. Seeing the name 'Stan Shaw' rang bells with me so i rang my old friend, a leatherworker from Bilsthorpe,. Notts. He said ' I was with Stan last Thursday (Apr 24/2009) at Kelham Island. Apparently. he's working there a number of days every week, although his workshop is not quite up Stan's requirements as yet. he has all his gear there and is currently engaged in making a Bowie knife for one of the Sheffield Bigwigs. He's still going strong at 83'.
  5. Totally agree, Dunsby Owl. Mind, he's obviously got some readies. if he can afford to drive to Aberdeen and back, and to support Man Utd. Serves him right. No sympathy.
  6. Got to agree fully. This is not to say that Dooley, for all his hustle and bustle, was a dirty footballer. It's simply a case of the modern game being 'touchy-feely'. The goalkeeper must not be challenged, especially in the air, in case he gets his jersey dirty. Robust tackling is not appreciated in the modern game. It is far less of a contact sport. None of this would suit the method in which the game was played at that time. all the great goalscorers were big, bustling and weren't averse to the shoulder charge, something missing from the mdern game. Still doesn't stop Dooley being among the great, big-men, the jackie Milburns, the George Robledos, the Raich Carters et al. The biggest surprise is the number of yellow and red cards which we get in the modern game. How rare it was to see a Ref. get his book out.He could control the game by talking to the players, and more often than not, the players accepted his decisions.
  7. Thanks for all the cartoons and the links. I remember when I was away for 9months in S.Shields (61/62) and dad always got 2 Green 'Uns, the first of which he immediately wrapped and put in the post for me. It awaited my return to digs on Mon afternoon, and always turned out to be a scramble between myself and 'Uncle Bill' with whom I was staying as to who got to read it first. Uncle Bill was a true Geordie, born ,raised and lived on the banks of the Tyne, but he always said that it was the best football paper he'd ever read. I remember Dougie Whitcomb. 'Mulberry Tavern' - was this the one off Orchard Street? if so , We started going in there about 1964, when one of the regulars was a certain Geordie - Jerry Young- a great blok and a loyal servant to Wednesday. Pity the book I have of the history of Sheffield Wednesday contains the sports pages of the Daily Mirror and not The Green 'Un. Now that would be a book worth having!!!!
  8. Many will remember that there would be a 'cartoon' in the Green'Un every week. The body would be small and of the appropriate colours, whilst the head would be drawn oversize, sufficient to be seen and very lifelike. These were about the size of a cigarette card, and the name 'Heap' seems to ring a bell. Can anyone help?
  9. Ecclesfield Grammar (before it went comprehensive) from 1951 to 1958. Found one of the heads of music singing in the same choir, who invited us back for a reunion. Whilst we were there they had just, or were completing a new science and craft block. They eventually built more new buildings. The reason for the 'reunion' was that they were in the final stages of knocking down the 'old buildings' i.e. the ones which were new to us, to relace them. The mainpart of the reunion was held in the School, a building unchanged from its 1930's construction, still with the same cast iron radiators and opening windows, and i'm sure still the original paintwork. needless to say, this was to remain. The one thing to depressme was the ruin that was the piece of hallowed turf in my day, the cricket square! I well remember the head, Mr.T.C.(Ticker) Harrison, a gentleman, the fearsome Mrs Clay and her husband who was deputy head, and many more. some of my male classmates- Bacon,Brodie, Heath, Heney, Kent, Moxon, Mumford, Pickering, Smith. A mixture of sad but mainly happy days.
  10. Probably not, but if it was raining that heavy 'it warn't fit to kick cat off'n t'arth, but thi'Dad'l still go to't Pub' reply: " if i get wet on't artside, I might as well get wet on't inside. Any road we cu'nt afford stair carpet, so what were t' good o,stair rods. Tacks'l keep t'oilcloth darn.
  11. Thanks for all the lists. Who said Sheffield was built on steel and coal; it looks to me more that the steel and coal simply floated on the ale!! In all seriousness, the original list I saw, came from an ex Sheffield steelworker, whose son was in the licensed trade, and it was shown in answer to a question on the dwindling number of BREWERIES and not brewers. I think his list from the early 1900's held around 28, but it will be a nice little job for me to sort out Brewers from breweries. Whilst passing through this list, I failed to find reference to some of the 'larger' breweries. For instance, in my memory I can remember Duncan Gilmour, Mappins, Stones, Tennants, Hope and Anchor, Wards. I am sure this can be increased tenfold. As a new member to the site KEEP IT UP, its superb.
  12. I saw, afew years ago, a list of all the breweris in Sheffield. The list was well into double figures. Can anyone help?
  13. After you'd paid for your first, did they buy the rest? Very interested in this book. What's it's title? I have several similar books, one of my favourites being 'EE, By Gum Lord' The Gospel stories told in broad Yorkshire. It looks nothing as you read it, but try reading aloud and it makes far more sense.
  14. whilst bringing my Grandaughter (almost 2) home on thurs. the weathear was a little inclement. On arriving home I said to my wife 'It's chucking it down'. When her mother arrived to pick her up, she said on seeing the rain, ' Mummy, Chucking down!' Another local saying transported into deepest Cheshire.
  15. If you looked from the City Hall Steps towards Coles (Still Coles , not john Lewis) it was on the Street to the right of Coles, just before you reach Coles Sports. They served the most superb honeyed Pork Ribs. Yumm. To add to the list, The Lions in the City Hall Auditorium. The announcer on the Midland announcing our train to Elsie Car, and Woomb well, and then Barnsley. rather embarrasing if you had a young bird with you! The sweet stall in the entrance to the Fish Market The spice fish and mint rock they sold there. Most of all though are the old Sheffield Trams!!!