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  1. Yes you're right plain talker, the new house between Fox Hill and Andover Street is on the site of 95 Rock Street where the the West family died (4) If you look on the survey map above you can see the gap in the 1950's between 87 & 97 Rock Street. Also the new house between Andover Street and Nottigham Street is on the site of 159 Rock Street where the Cox & Dunn families died. Incidentally an uncle (friend of the family we called uncle) of ours passed by 159 Rock street shortly after the air raid and herd a child crying from within the property. He tried to gain access but was stopped by a fire warden who said it was too dangerous for a civilian to try and enter. He said that it sounded like a girl crying, but looking through the records it was probably 6-year-old Peter Dunn as he was the only child in the house of the age my uncle said was crying. In the end no one from the property survived and ended up on the list of the many dead in Rock Street. :(
  2. Dennis you are indeed the man! I had the whole family round to see your picture of the bomb craters on Fox Street and Pye bank. It’s the first time that we have seen any sort of photographic bomb damage in the immediate area around our house from that period! I would agree with you that the crater on the junction of Grey Street and Fox Street is indeed a true crater and could be the site of the Fox Street shelter. It's amazing that no one actually knows where it is! Ok, how’s this for an idea. The line of bombs heading exactly due north from Grey St to Pye Bank suggest they may have been dropped from a separate aircraft to the one that flew just east of north, and took out the vicarage, 95 Rock Street, the shelter in 119 Rock Streets garden, and 159 Rock Street. My idea behind this is that if you measure the distance between the latter bomb hits it comes out at roughly 300 feet or so. But if you measure the distance from Grey/Fox Street to Pye Bank it works to 450 feet. The other thing that may support this is that the records say the Coopers died on the 12th at the Fox Street shelter, whilst the Neals and Mr Thrutle died on the 13th in 119’s back garden. This may suggest that two different aircraft did separate damage. That’s my idea, but I guess we’ll never know. I’m pretty sure one of the aircraft used during the blitz was the He 111 and I think the other was the Dornier 217. I would assume that these two aircraft would have separate release mechanisms to drop their bombs and this would account from the different bomb hits. Of course there are many other factors to add into that like wind speed, aircraft airspeed etc but that’s my theory. Looking at your photograph just now Dennis, do you think there could be another bomb hit on Pitsmoor Road? I’ve marked it on the map with a red square, and I don’t know if it’s the angle or what but it looks like half the building to the north of the area is missing. I know people did perish on Pitsmoor Road maybe we found another bomb site? The photo does stop tantalizingly close to our house though! Do you have any more of this photo continuing onto the east Dennis? If not do you have an idea where I can start looking for more wartime aerial photos of Sheffield? The more I’m finding out the more intriguing it’s becoming. Thanks again guys for your help so far it’s greatly appreciated!
  3. Big thanks to everyone who's looked round for stuff for me. I've been really busy these last two days at work so have'nt been able to check back. I'm going to have a look through the attachments this weekend when I've got some time. I'm going back to the library as well when I'm off in two weeks to see if I can find anything else out. It looks as though it's going to be pretty hard to find much more than you may have found but I'd really like to know as much as possible. Anyway, thanks for the help so far and the warm welcome Jim.
  4. Thanks for the reply Guy's, the survey map is very interesting, especially seenig how I don't remember ANY of the streets accross the road from when I was little! (1970+) D you happen to know where the Fox street shelter was? Jim. :rolleyes:
  5. Hi There, I’m new to the forum and would like to know if there is anyone out there that can help me in my quest to find out about the house and indeed the street that I lived in. Ok the story; myself and my brother and sister grew up at 119 Rock Street in the 60’s and 70’s. We knew that their had been some bomb damage to the house during the war because apparently a bomb had dropped in the garden of 117 next door and killed a young mother and her four children. For many years whilst young we would occasionally dig up bones and run to show our parents thinking they were animal bones, of course our parents knew what they were and just told us to go and bury them back in garden. We eventually moved from Rock Street in the early 80’s, then in our teens and early twenties. After recently visiting the library to do some investigating about our current house, my sister and I decided to have a brief look at the history of our old house on Rock Street. To cut a long story short we found out that not only did the bomb drop in our garden and not next-door, but also that there were nine people in total that died associated with our house! The names of the people were Cooper, Neal, and Thurtle. The Coopers were sheltering in the Fox Street shelter and died December 12th whilst the Neal’s and Mr Thurtle (who incidentally was Mrs Coopers Father) died at 119 Rock Street (I take it that would be a garden shelter) on December 13th. Myself and my family have really taken to the idea of finding out as much as possible about that night on Rock Street, and would love to know if anyone has any information at all regarding the people involved and anything else to do with our house. If anyone has any old photographs maps or just memories it would be greatly appreciated. We lived at 119 for 25 years and in that time we never knew of those who died so tragically in our home and it would be good to finally pay our respects for those we never knew. All the best, James.
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