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Lyn 1

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  1. I remember that too - the very small Hovis loaves, silver threepenny bits and the choc bars. I had some money in the school bank but my mum said the book was lost - she must have drawn it out. 

    The books (hardback classics)  I bought from Andrews shop near the CGS cost 2s 6d (or 12 and half pence). We would go to the nearby sandwich shop and buy a buttered cob and next door for a tuppenny apple. Healthy or what! At least our brains were fed. 

  2. My brain still automatically processes decimal currency back into old (real) money and my mouth says 'How much!' I don't think our pockets bulged with coinage as we never had much. It was bottles back to the shop for spending money - mainly penny ones. But when watching quiz shows on TV my brain automatically knows the answer to old money, mental arithmetic, times table type questions and old measurements.  I still remember farthings being in use. 

  3. I agree that doing well at the age of 11 is not that important - some are late developers. Some people are  very intelligent but fail exams. We are all capable of being good at something - it is whether we get the chance to prove it. Life, to me, is one long learning curve.................  

  4. I remember passing it - don't actually remember taking the exam itself.  But I do remember my disgust when I found out friends were promised a bike if they passed. I wasn't promised anything or even had the words well done said to me. I was told 'Tha'll have to learn to talk proper now tha'rt mixing wi' them from t'posh end of town'. Needless to say I was too scared to open my mouth for a while. 

  5. 26 Jan 1910 Sheffield Daily Telegraph


    45 YEARS AGO


    Recalled by a Letter from Australia



    Mrs Ann Walton, an inmate of Sir Edward Sylvester's Almshouses, Mortomley Lane End, has received the following letter from her cousin Solomon Stenton, who was in 1865, at York Assizes, sentenced to 20 years penal servitude for the manslaughter of his grandmother Eliza Drabble at Chapeltown nr Sheffield in March 1865.


               Post Office, Waddington, Western Australia

                                                      December 12. 1909

    My dear Cousin. – I take the opportunity to write to let you know I am still alive, and well except that rheumatics torment me occasionally. I had a letter from Joe 4 years ago which I answered but I cannot hear any tidings of Bentley. I am getting the old age pension now which is a great help to me. I should like to communicate with Thomas Fairies, and Mrs Howson, if they are still alive. I remember Ben Whyke as on the day I left England; also Shep Barras, Pincher, Link Jackson, Toby and Tom Howson. Send my best regards to Eliza Rodgers. The happiest days of my life out here is when I am in the bush with my gun and my dog. The poor old lady (my wife) died 4 years ago, and I am left all to myself. Send me a long letter and let me know if Joe is still in Canada, and I will write to him. We are having very warm weather out here – 100 degrees in the shade. I will conclude now by wishing you a happy New Year. – I remain, your affectionate Cousin.

                                                                       SOLOMON STENTON

    At the time of the tragedy on March, 1865, Solomon Stenton worked at Thorncliffe Ironworks and lived with his grandmother at Greenhead, Chapeltown. It was payday at Thorncliffe and Stenton met the old lady at night and gave her his wages. The two spent some time together at one of the local inns and set off for home around 9pm. Shortly afterwards Eliza Stenton was found lying upon the road at Greenhead. She was dead and had been brutally ill used. Her grandson Solomon was the last person seen with her, and as he could not give a satisfactory explanation he was arrested and at the Coroners inquest the jury returned a verdict of 'Wilful murder' against him. At the Assizes in York, the capital charge was reduced to manslaughter. He was found guilty and sentenced to 20 years transportation. A very large number of Chapeltown people, however had strong opinions that Stenton was innocent, and this feeling spread, and another man's name was freely mentioned as the possible culprit. In 1877 the matter was taken up by request of Mr Tom Fairies, and at a public meeting he was requested to prepare a petition to the authorities, praying for the case to be reopened. The petition was duly signed by a large number of persons and duly forwarded to the Right Hon. Richard Cross, Home Secretary at that time who duly acknowledged the receipt of the same. After some time had lapsed an official intimation reached Chapeltown that Stenton had been liberated on Ticket of Leave having served 12 years of his sentence. It is very likely that Stenton wishes to communicate with Mr Fairies on account of the services of the latter.

  6. Many thanks Edmund - I read it as Vide too. The rest of the document is also difficult but I managed to understand most of it in my own way. Enough that make sense anyway. Several times he was in solitary and a lot of time spent on bread and water. On obtaining his freedom he went to Hobart, spent some time there and returned to Australia marrying a female convict - no children - and he wrote back to friends and relatives telling of his life there which he seemed to enjoy. From information gathered I think his conviction would be classed as unsound these days and local rumours at the time seemed to indicate he was not solely responsible. 

    The Sheffield & Rotherham Independent (Sheffield, England), Friday, September 01, 1876.jpg

  7. Thanks for your input - 'poultry' could be party as in working party as they were sent out to work from jail.  No headings to that part just detailing day to day stuff and dates - oh and punishments in his case.  It is about Solomon Stenton convicted of manslaughter of his grandmother in 1865 and transported to Australia (mentioned elsewhere on this site). Ancestry has more records online for him. I have his story already up to his death but this new record on ancestry details his life and wrongdoings too while serving his time. He still was a wrong 'un!  

  8. In the 50s I used to go to the off licence of a nearby pub for my dad - 6 empty bottles in a bag to be filled up for his Saturday might drinking session. Terrified in case I was questioned as I was year under age for buying alcohol - I think you had to be 13. Sounds stupid that you were trusted that it was for an adult. Not sure when this law was changed. 

    I also remember going with my mum aged about 3 -4 to buy Guinness from a shop off- licence for my nan - again we took our own bottle. Same in the 60s/70s you could buy drinks like Scotsmac and take your own bottle to be filled and I am sure a neighbour used to buy red wine this way.  

  9. On 04/04/2019 at 14:25, Lyn 1 said:

    Sat 11th and Sun 12th May 10am to 4pm.  FREE ENTRY
    Find out about the area’s fascinating past in this major
    display of new and original work undertaken by Grenoside
    and District Local History Group members
    Home made cakes and drinks served all day
    Large car park

    Grenoside Community Centre, Main St, Grenoside Sheffield 

    Just bringing it back to the top as a reminder.

  10. Dawn do you want to email me direct as we are getting very far away from the original topic Sheaf Street, raised at the beginning. I have found a widowed Sarah Caley in the 1871 census aged 50 from County Clare in Ireland living in Hollis Croft - the same area, who may be the same person named on Mary Ann bpt record as godmother. This could be Sarah Coley/Curley/Cowley's mother but we may be moving too fast now.   John William's bpt seems to state father as being acatholic - ?non catholic.  31 Ellis St Ellison St. 

  11. 1 hour ago, Lyn 1 said:

    Found this on Ancestry - image.png.d899059ada829e735ffa128018a99bfc.png 

    So father William Parker & mother Sarah Coley (? Cowley or Curley) St Marie is a Catholic Church 

    Discrepancy in supposed year born I think - think it should read 1866 



  12. 1871 census Garden St looks like the likely family - very much an area where Irish Catholics moved into with St Vincent's Catholic Church nearby.Taken a 2nd look Dawn and I would say scrub this census it is the same family Edmund found........... I'll keep looking when I get chance.


    1871 census  Parker.jpg