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Lyn 1

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  1. In the 50s I used to go to the off licence of a nearby pub for my dad - 6 empty bottles in a bag to be filled up for his Saturday might drinking session. Terrified in case I was questioned as I was year under age for buying alcohol - I think you had to be 13. Sounds stupid that you were trusted that it was for an adult. Not sure when this law was changed. I also remember going with my mum aged about 3 -4 to buy Guinness from a shop off- licence for my nan - again we took our own bottle. Same in the 60s/70s you could buy drinks like Scotsmac and take your own bottle to be filled and I am sure a neighbour used to buy red wine this way.
  2. That look very interesting. Will browse when I have more time. Thank you
  3. 1883 Sheffield, Yorkshire. Renewal of a Beer License. George Beeley, Eyre St Pub https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1883-Sheffield-Yorkshire-Renewal-of-a-Beer-License-George-Beeley-Eyre-St-Pub/392281450350?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D20140122125356%26meid%3D006d32d975ef41fe88b26578eda198b4%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D2%26sd%3D372679726840%26itm%3D392281450350&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851
  4. Beer off - missing out the license bit after it. We also used that phrase for any any shops that just sold alchohol as well as the out sales at various local pubs..
  5. Sat 11th and Sun 12th May 10am to 4pm. FREE ENTRY Find out about the area’s fascinating past in this major display of new and original work undertaken by Grenoside and District Local History Group members Home made cakes and drinks served all day Large car park Grenoside Community Centre, Main St, Grenoside Sheffield
  6. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_Edward_VII_School,_Sheffield King Edwards was previously Wesleyan college and merged with Sheffield Royal Grammar school
  7. Dawn do you want to email me direct as we are getting very far away from the original topic Sheaf Street, raised at the beginning. I have found a widowed Sarah Caley in the 1871 census aged 50 from County Clare in Ireland living in Hollis Croft - the same area, who may be the same person named on Mary Ann bpt record as godmother. This could be Sarah Coley/Curley/Cowley's mother but we may be moving too fast now. John William's bpt seems to state father as being acatholic - ?non catholic. 31 Ellis St Ellison St.
  8. 1871 census Garden St looks like the likely family - very much an area where Irish Catholics moved into with St Vincent's Catholic Church nearby.Taken a 2nd look Dawn and I would say scrub this census it is the same family Edmund found........... I'll keep looking when I get chance. Lyn
  9. Found this on Ancestry - So father William Parker & mother Sarah Coley (? Cowley or Curley) St Marie is a Catholic Church
  10. Dawn, it is the Fir Vale/Sheffield Union Workhouse where she had the children often referred to as Pitsmoor WH. The UD stands for Urban District. As there are other addresses where she was living then she would have gone into the Workhouse to give birth to the children having worked as long as she could. Jericho St http://picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;u00650&pos=10&action=zoom&id=36079 when you get an address with something like 2 ct - the ct means it is a back to back house. One family lived in the front of the house and another in the back. Toilet facilities were generally called middens and served several families living in the courts. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Back-to-back_house Princess St http://picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;u01041&pos=10&action=zoom&id=36407 Upper Allen St http://picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;u00691&pos=50&action=zoom&id=36106 All poor areas. More photos on http://picturesheffield.com/
  11. Many thanks Bogginspro - I was trying hard to stick more to the time period Dawn is working in so as not to confuse her especially as she lives in Canada so our Poor Law system is a mystery. Hence me sticking to the Ecclesall Union and Brightside (Fir Vale) Union. When the Workhouse was built at Fir Vale it was well away from the sights, sounds and smells of the town!
  12. Dawn - There were two Union Workhouses in Sheffield and depending where you lived, this decided which one you came under whether for 'in' or 'out relief'. Some areas came under Ecclesall Bierlow and some under Brightside. Fir Vale Workhouse, or Sheffield Union Workhouse came under Brightside but didn't open until 1881 officially. Both Workhouses took in children too but by 1894 Fir Vale had the Children's Homes built to separate children from the Workhouse inmates. Normally children would stay with the mother until 3 yrs of age before moving into the homes. It may be that Mary came out of the first workhouse to work somewhere but when she needed help again came under the Fir Vale Workhouse/Brightside area. This research guide may help. - https://www.sheffield.gov.uk/content/dam/sheffield/docs/libraries-and-archives/archives-and-local-studies/research/Workhouses Study Guide v1-3.pdf
  13. 2nd October 1883 Sheffield Daily Telegraph - probably doesn't fit but just in case
  14. Dawn a quick search just for girls born in Sheffield 2 yrs either side of 1863 brought up over 30 matches without doing Ecclesall Bierlow. So it would be lots to post on here as Parker is a common surname. If you go to https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/ and register so you can search freely without having to buy certificates unless you need to. It is a bit tedious because you can only do 2 yrs at a time but be methodical and remember to put in male of female and searching using both Sheffield and Ecclesall Bierlow. But better than Freebmd as it gives mother's maiden surname so long as she was married. If you get stuck you have my email address to contact me. I buy all old B & D certificates that way now as it is much cheaper. It is how I obtained Frank Freeman Newman's. A quick flick through just brings up Mary Ann and John William with the Mother's maiden surname of Curley. Keep in mind the variations of Cowley or Cawley.
  15. Free BMD - Cowley not so far away from Curley in transcription mistakes so a possible
  16. There was a Curley Family living on Verdon St Brightside in 1861.
  17. No guarantee you will find a marriage Dawn; I have dug around a bit but nothing turning up and maybe the surname Curley was wrongly written or transcribed but worth a try buying eth certificate as I know you have been on the trail a long time. Cost of certificates just gone up but still cheaper buying the PDF format. https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp Good Luck Lyn
  18. GRO birth index gives did a search of 2 yrs either side of 1868 for Sheffield district and also one for Ecclesall bierlow and only this came up.
  19. Mary Ann Parker's trade is Charer = char woman or cleaner.
  20. The family were living on Guernsey Rd in the 1901 census George's parents - Wagland, Arthur William (Saw Piercer, age 48). Died at 14 Belgrave Square; Buried on August 27, 1907 in Consecrated ground; Grave Number 9007, Section T of City Road Cemetery, Sheffield. WAGLAND, Fanny (Wife of Arthur, age 35). Died at on way to Hospital; Buried on December 2, 1903 in Consecrated ground; Grave Number 9007, Section T of City Road Cemetery, Sheffield. George may have been in the homes at Sheffield Union Workhouse prior to being sent to Barnardos. In 1911 he was in the Mile End Mission, London, a Dr Barnardo's Home along with other boys from Sheffield namely – Samuel Tinton 12yrs old, Wm Parkin 12 yrs old, Walter Ross 11 yrs old, Wesley Norton 12yrs old, Norman Hamar 12 yrs, Willis Darlow aged 13yrs (also sent to Canada, served WW1). Frederick James Betts 10yrs old, and Frank Lane 7 yrs old. Lyn
  21. From various Church magazines. St Cuthberts mid 1940s, St Hildas late 1960s, early 70s.