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  1. Beer off - missing out the license bit after it. We also used that phrase for any any shops that just sold alchohol as well as the out sales at various local pubs..
  2. Sat 11th and Sun 12th May 10am to 4pm. FREE ENTRY Find out about the area’s fascinating past in this major display of new and original work undertaken by Grenoside and District Local History Group members Home made cakes and drinks served all day Large car park Grenoside Community Centre, Main St, Grenoside Sheffield
  3. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_Edward_VII_School,_Sheffield King Edwards was previously Wesleyan college and merged with Sheffield Royal Grammar school
  4. Dawn do you want to email me direct as we are getting very far away from the original topic Sheaf Street, raised at the beginning. I have found a widowed Sarah Caley in the 1871 census aged 50 from County Clare in Ireland living in Hollis Croft - the same area, who may be the same person named on Mary Ann bpt record as godmother. This could be Sarah Coley/Curley/Cowley's mother but we may be moving too fast now. John William's bpt seems to state father as being acatholic - ?non catholic. 31 Ellis St Ellison St.
  5. 1871 census Garden St looks like the likely family - very much an area where Irish Catholics moved into with St Vincent's Catholic Church nearby.Taken a 2nd look Dawn and I would say scrub this census it is the same family Edmund found........... I'll keep looking when I get chance. Lyn
  6. Found this on Ancestry - So father William Parker & mother Sarah Coley (? Cowley or Curley) St Marie is a Catholic Church
  7. Dawn, it is the Fir Vale/Sheffield Union Workhouse where she had the children often referred to as Pitsmoor WH. The UD stands for Urban District. As there are other addresses where she was living then she would have gone into the Workhouse to give birth to the children having worked as long as she could. Jericho St http://picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;u00650&pos=10&action=zoom&id=36079 when you get an address with something like 2 ct - the ct means it is a back to back house. One family lived in the front of the house and another in the back. Toilet facilities were generally called middens and served several families living in the courts. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Back-to-back_house Princess St http://picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;u01041&pos=10&action=zoom&id=36407 Upper Allen St http://picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;u00691&pos=50&action=zoom&id=36106 All poor areas. More photos on http://picturesheffield.com/
  8. Many thanks Bogginspro - I was trying hard to stick more to the time period Dawn is working in so as not to confuse her especially as she lives in Canada so our Poor Law system is a mystery. Hence me sticking to the Ecclesall Union and Brightside (Fir Vale) Union. When the Workhouse was built at Fir Vale it was well away from the sights, sounds and smells of the town!
  9. Dawn - There were two Union Workhouses in Sheffield and depending where you lived, this decided which one you came under whether for 'in' or 'out relief'. Some areas came under Ecclesall Bierlow and some under Brightside. Fir Vale Workhouse, or Sheffield Union Workhouse came under Brightside but didn't open until 1881 officially. Both Workhouses took in children too but by 1894 Fir Vale had the Children's Homes built to separate children from the Workhouse inmates. Normally children would stay with the mother until 3 yrs of age before moving into the homes. It may be that Mary came out of the first workhouse to work somewhere but when she needed help again came under the Fir Vale Workhouse/Brightside area. This research guide may help. - https://www.sheffield.gov.uk/content/dam/sheffield/docs/libraries-and-archives/archives-and-local-studies/research/Workhouses Study Guide v1-3.pdf
  10. 2nd October 1883 Sheffield Daily Telegraph - probably doesn't fit but just in case
  11. Dawn a quick search just for girls born in Sheffield 2 yrs either side of 1863 brought up over 30 matches without doing Ecclesall Bierlow. So it would be lots to post on here as Parker is a common surname. If you go to https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/ and register so you can search freely without having to buy certificates unless you need to. It is a bit tedious because you can only do 2 yrs at a time but be methodical and remember to put in male of female and searching using both Sheffield and Ecclesall Bierlow. But better than Freebmd as it gives mother's maiden surname so long as she was married. If you get stuck you have my email address to contact me. I buy all old B & D certificates that way now as it is much cheaper. It is how I obtained Frank Freeman Newman's. A quick flick through just brings up Mary Ann and John William with the Mother's maiden surname of Curley. Keep in mind the variations of Cowley or Cawley.