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    Ex-pat Sheffielder in Rotherham. about to move to Filey

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  1. settlement

    As I understand it no. They would have to seek settlement in their own right.
  2. I have recently found out that an ancestor of mine married a woman called Charlotte who had a glove stall on one of the Sheffield Markets in the early years of the last century.. I'm saying married, I don't know if they actually did, as so far no marriage has been identified. Her surname is shrouded in mystery as is her early life. Does anyone know if a list of stall holders exists for that period and if so where it is held? Chris Roderick (Brown) Now retired and living in Filey
  3. Lies. Damn Lies And Family History

    Hi History Dude, Thankyou for the information. I knew about Thomas, there was a Willie Suckley who died in there, as well as one of the other side of the family.. They must have all been in there at the same time. James could not have stayed in the workhouse, as death certificate says Court 1 Sudbury Street, Netherthorpe. trade pen blade grinder. Death caused by hardening of the arteries. Hardly surprising at 89.They seem a long lived family if they left the drink alone. my mother and her two siblings all in their 90s, and a cousin still living at 98.
  4. I have been doing my family history for some years now, but always failed to find my maternal great grandfather, born 1842.My mother,born 1909, always told me he died before she was born. Her father died when she was two and her mother in 1934. so there was really nobody to ask. I spent some time looking for him and then sidelined him, thinking, well,something will turn up eventually. It just has. Tracking a distant relative's line as a favour, I came across an entry for a James Suckley in 1901 who seemed to be the correct one. Oh good, I thought I should be able to find him in the deaths, but i checked the 1911 census and he was still alive and kicking, but in the workhouse. So I started looking at deaths from that date on. He did not die until 1931 at the age of 89, which for a pen blade grinder must be a flipping record! But why did my mother lie, or did she not know? The family is absolutely rampant with scandal. One side appears to have been well educated (one was an composer and organist at Sheffield Parish Church as it then was) The other side is a tale of drink, prison, marriage break-up and living in sin. My g/grandfather was illegitimate as were 3 of his brother and sisters. Eventually his father and his natural mother married after the first wife died in 1851. The two families appeared to have got on very well, so i just don't know how it came about unless my mother knew about the illegitimacy, which was frowned on in those days. Either way it is a fascinating story.
  5. Walk Mill

    From Wikipedia Walk mill was one of the earliest known mills on the Sheaf, having been built around 1280 by the Canons of Beauchief Abbey as a fulling mill. After the abbey was dissolved in the reign of Henry VIII, it was used as a cutlers wheel. By 1746 John Tyzack was using it for grinding scythes, in 1797 Thomas Biggin was making knives for cutting hay and straw, and it was being used as a sickle mill in 1805. After a brief spell as a paper mill around 1826, it was occupied by Thomas Tyzack and Sons, who made saws. The site was sold to the Midland Railway by the Duke of Devonshire in 1871 for the construction of Dore and Totley station, and the last mill buildings were taken down in 1890
  6. Pheasant At Sheffield Lane Top

    That's enough to make a strong man cry
  7. File Cutters' Disease

    Lead poison9ing was well known among file cutters, My great grandmother died of this in 1881. My grandmother died of kidney disease brought on by exposure to lead in 1926. Both were hand file-cutters at home. On the other hand my great aunt Emler born in 1868 died in 1968 a few months short of her 100th birthday. She also was a hand file cutter and nobody has yet explained why she was not affected.
  8. Hi John I do not know of any shoe shop owned by a Lingard. The local Lingards in Sheffield were well established in a variety of trades and I knew a few of them in the Walkley and Saint Philips Road areas. A Lingard ran an Ironmongers on Langsett Road Devonshire Road is a posh bit of Sheffield so she died well-fixed i would say. She may well have worked for a national chain of retailers. I have asked a friend of roughly the same age who was a manageress of a shoe shop abut she doesn't know the name. Who notified the death could be interesting Chris Roderick
  9. Will Abstract

    Admin may move this but I am not sure where it needs to go. I was looking of information on an other ancestor, a Constable Dunning of Whitby, but when I got the download from A2a there are on the same page a Thomas Blagden of Bridgehouses, a William Hunstman of Attercliffe and a John Johnson of Ecclesfield. All 1809 Chris Roderick Abstract Constable Dunning.pdf
  10. Sheffield Polka

    Anothe musical Sheffielder Samuel Suckley's first recorded appearance in Doncaster was in 1863 as a pianist in a concert put on by the 1st West York Yeomanry Cavalry (later called Yorkshire Dragoons). By 1880, if not earlier, he had succeeded to the position of Bandmaster to the Dragoons which he was to hold with the rank of Lieutenant, into the next century. Suckley was also an organist in Sheffield; I have found a reference to his resignation from the post at St Paul's Church, in 1891 (He also composed: a polka, Marguerite, a "Novelty Allegro" The Jolly Blacksmiths, the concert waltz Yorkshire Dragoons (1889), the Sandringham Valse (1891: published by Forsyth), the waltz Elsie (1893, dedicated, "by permission", to the Prince and Princess of Wales), the intermezzo Dora and the Jubilee Rocket Allegro, presumably dating from 1897. He too programmed Jullien's music, the Sleigh Ride appearing in concerts conducted by him in 1880 and 1896. Samuel Suckley was my g/g/g/uncle and the posh side. The rest were grinders Who says we aven't got any culture
  11. Wardsend Cemetery

    I am finally surfacing after a horrible few months, beset by illness death and work commitments. A few things have got to be said about Wardsend. Firstly, it is still in the possession of the Church of England. I have pursued this religiously (forgive the pun) for over 2 years now, to unanswered emails and non returned phonecalls The Friends of Wardsend were originally part of The Hillsborough Trust. The same names appear on documents. The National Federaton of Cemetery Friends have had no contact since 2005 from the Wardsend group. The Hillsborough Trust went in 2008 having done nothing for over 3 years. The Charity Commissions Website shows no accounts after 2005. The latest little escapade in August last year was organised purely to make the local Labour Party look good. Sorry if this upsets anyone but that's how it was. The whole business of Wardsend Cemetery is a disgrace to the City of Sheffield, and as is usual in Sheffield, dogged by politics If anyone wants any more informatino please conact me direct.
  12. My great grandfather was also a Charles Law, but not this one. I have quite a lot of information about the ones in the family but do not recognise any of Kerry's ones, but I will have a look through my stuff. Charles and William turn up as Christian names in every generation of the family, which doesn't help, a;so the mis-spelling of Law and Lowe.
  13. 'The alley' Penistone Road

    Serves me right for relying on memory that does.
  14. 'The alley' Penistone Road

    I think they must be the houses demolished in about 1930 They were very old then Picture Sheffield has some photographs of the demoliton on Cornish Street and Green Lane which would give you a good idea of the type of houses they were. Look under those names for pictures. The numbers must have been in the area around Cornish Steet and probably just past the New Inn This link shows the junction of Penistone Road Cornish Street Infirmary Road in 1950 http://www.picturesh...ff.refno=s19315 which is pretty much as I remember it. I had a school friend lived at the Royal Lancers at the end of Dixon Street and knew the area very well. My grandparents were moved out of Hoyle Street in about 1930 for demolition so I think there must have been a lot going on in that area at the time I have some Oates connections who were in that area at one time Chris
  15. Wardsend Cemetery

    Call me a cynic, but now I know that there's is an election looming. As an old Sheffield observer, I am concerned that there is no publicity about this or if so I have missed it. Are we going to have a repeat performance of the previous Friends? I have emailed Ron Clayton this morning IN addition I have had emails from Paul Scrivens, Council leader. and the Sheffield Diocese I hae also been in touch with the National Association of Cemetery Friends who confirm that there has been no correspondence from the Friends since 2006, so who are these 3 active members? The website no longer functions, and the telephone numbers I have from 3 years ago no longer work. The new bridge has me seriously worried about what's in store. Chris
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