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  1. Blacksmiths at Meadowhead?

    It's where the car park of the abbey pub is now. The house in the background is in Bromwich road.
  2. It looks a bit like Millhouses. The road to the right would be Hastings Road. The trees in the far distance would be Millhouses park. Its a pity there isn't more visible on the left of the shot. The Milhouses pub should be right there. The flat building would have to have been replaced by the current block containing Majestic Wines, Vets4Pets etc. I'm only half convinced! Ayfer
  3. Finding a family grave

    It's difficult to say which cemetery people would automatically be buried in. There is no real rule. It depends a lot on where they lived and if they worshiped at a particular church, or indeed if they were church worshipers at all. If there was an existing family grave that could be reopened, then they may be buried miles away from where they were living when they died. Failing that, a likely place is the nearest general cemetery to where they lived. If there were no descendants, then siblingts may have had a say in where they were buried, and of course they could have been cremated anyway. I've just checked the National Burial index and there is a Walter Morton buried at Rotherham Moorgate cemetery in 1950 aged 77 but I can't see an entry for a Florence.
  4. Ryle Road, Nether Edge

    Difficult to say to what extent it was planned. It is on the 1903 map with, what looks like, all the houses built on one side. The large house 'Moncrieffe' on the corner of Montgomery Road and Moncrieffe Road has no houses to the rear of it in 1903 ,but it does have some alongside it on Montgomery Road. I'd guess that whoever built that had bought several plots and wanted a large garden extending as far as Ryle Road. The layout of Ryle Road (and Bank Close behind it) does look a bit haphazard!
  5. Industrial Panorama

    The railway bridge in the foreground has a look of the one on Bernard Road. The angle the road goes under the railway is very similar. Obviously more railway track would have been put in later widening the bridge.
  6. Storth Hall

    I think Storth Hall was a mental hospital. The surest way to get a cause of death is to get a copy of the death certificate from the GRO.
  7. Is this from The Hole In The Road in Sheffield?

    No this is underneath and alongside Arundel Gate. At one time you could walk along there from somewhere near the Top Rank to the Polytechnic.
  8. Pond Hill Bridge in Sheffield

    That fits with the 1903 and 1923 maps that I have. This is my take on it. The people on the bridge on the bottom of Pond Hill are looking towards the weir that was alongside Sheaf island Works. The road across the picture, from left to right, is Sheaf Street. The road at the top of the ramp is Granville Street (again from left to right). The Sun Inn is on the corner of Gilbert Street which led up to Duke Street and South Street. I can see some folk in uniform so this is presumably bomb damage from WW2
  9. Abbeydale Hamlet Museum should be on your list.
  10. Attics in terraced houses

    Many families were large enough to need several bedrooms. If the family didn't need all the rooms they could be let out to get extra income. In the slightly larger terraced houses built in the latter part of the 19th century, servants would live in attic rooms. Even middle class families had servants and even working class folk might have a live-in nurse for the first few months after childbirth, particularly if it had been a difficult birth. A trawl through maybe the 1891 census should come up with many examples of a lot of people living in one house. I came across one in Attercliffe that wasn't much more than a terraced house, with about 10 people living in it. Mum, Dad, four kids, grandma, and three lodgers. They might have been extended family of course.
  11. Poor Houses being called Barracks

    There was an area of housing somewhere at Gleadless/Hollinsend known as the 'barracks'. I think they were poor housing associated with the nearby coal mines.
  12. You could get a copy of her death certificate, which should tell you the cause of death. rgds Ayfer
  13. Victoria Gardens Totley

    I did some digging at Sheffield Local Studies library. This is the 1893 obituary for Joseph Mountain. ~~~~~~~~ Fate hit Joseph Mountain very hard during a stormy life, which ended in May 1893 at Totley Rise from the third stroke which he had had within the space of eight days. He was assuredly one of the great pioneers in the development of a greater Sheffield possibly not so much with the end in view so much as for his personal well-being. He was a very great purchaser of land, a very shrewd man, a very extensive builder and wealth beyond the ordinary was with him when like a bolt out of the blue, all was changed. Quite unexpectedly land values fell away very alarmingly in the town itself and also in all surrounding districts so that inevitably the pioneer suffered greatly. He was part owner of the Farnham estates in the Rotherham district but those who were also associated with him had nothing like his vision and, following on purchase of the estate refused to proceed with a desirable development of the property. The result was that when land values dropped greatly and as an inevitable result local trade also fell away the estate was unproductive and a dead weight. So, with an overload of trouble in every direction he was compelled to file his own petition but at the first meeting of his creditors his discharge was granted. The well remembered pleasure gardens, the Victoria Gardens as they were known, were laid out by him and opened at Whitsuntide in 1882 with menageries and wonderful schemes for attracting the Sheffield people but Totley was too far away from the town in those days. The vision was allright but it came thirty years too soon. He was in the council in 1873, Alderman six years later, then defeating W J Clegg by 25 votes to 24, and in 1881 was nominated as Mayor but failed to secure election. He was sixty years old when he died. ~~~~~~~~ There are apparently no maps or other photos of the gardens. Joseph Mountain and his wife are buried at Dore Church. regards Ayfer
  14. 1841 Census

    From looking around at other nearby entries, I'd suggest it is "Snuff M J" which could stand for "Snuff Maker Journeyman" or "Snuff Manufacturer Journeyman". There are nearby entries for the Wilson family that just say "Snuff M" cheers Ayfer
  15. Hi, Does anyone know anything about Victoria Gardens at Totley, or know of any photos of Victoria Gardens. There is one photo on the picture Sheffield website, but it doesn't really show much of the gardens themselves. Apparently the gardens were at one time a significant pleasure ground to rival Manchester's Belle Vue. There were 14 acres and included a menagerie, ballroom, boating lake and more. It takes some believing though, without any photographic evidence. cheers Ayfer.