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  1. No, no, no! The Wigan game was Big Jack's 13th....and I went to both that and the Exeter game as well!
  2. The previous game was 4-2 to Santos with all the goals in the first half. Like I said, I went to that as well!
  3. No, it was 2-0 and Jim McCalliog scored both goals.
  4. Pele didn't score that day; I can't remember who did. But I can remember that one of their goals came when Grummitt dropped kicked the ball right at one of their players and it rebounded straight into the net. There had also been a bit of controversy on Santos' tour to that point. A game against Santos was only a draw, crowd-wise, if Pele was playing and of course they knew it. A few days earlier Santos had played at Villa, if I remember right, and on that occasion, about ten minutes before kick off, Santos had threatened to withdraw Pele from the match if they weren't paid a shed load more. It was common or garden blackmail and, in the circumstances, Villa had no option but to cough up the extra dosh. But their "tactics" were well known before the game at S6 so the problem didn't arise. It was actually a wee wee-poor game that afternoon. Fortunately I'd been at the game ten years earlier when Pele was in his prime, Wednesday were a decent team, and it was altogether a night to remember. You see the fancy penalties that some players take these days; well, Pele did that back in 1962.
  5. It must have been taken from the left hand side of the Kop goal looking back towards the corner of Leppings Lane and the North Stand. Oh and to answer a previous question we lost 2-0.
  6. I went to that match; it was Don Revie's first "game" as England manager and they won 5-0 if I remember rightly.
  7. When I was a kid, back in the 1960's, I used to know George McCabe; he's "trainer/coach" in the picture. He used to live on Stradbroke Close, just round the corner from us. He'd been a goalie in his youth and played a handful of games for Wednesday during the early Second World War years. But he concentrated afterwards on becoming a referee and got onto the FIFA list, or whatever it was called then. He reffed a match or two in the 1966 World Cup and then the 1970 Cup Final before he had to compulsorily retire through age. That gave him the chance to go back to Wednesday and start coaching the kids. What a really nice guy he was. He used to spend hours showing his scrapbook of matches he'd reffed and mementoes from games all over Europe.
  8. United's original nickname was The Cutlers and we were The Blades....the change came about after the move to Owlerton. Oh and we left Olive Grove in 1899....
  9. I was stood on the Kop that night and have vivid memories of the game. It was all a bit surreal; City were playing in the Cup Winners Cup Final the following week and just wanted to avoid injuries. And even though they treated the first half in particular like a training session or a testimonial match we were so bad that we never looked like scoring. The City penalty in the first half was actually taken by Mike Doyle and I can still recall their captain, Tony Book, running from his own half to have a word with him before he took the kick. He then rolled it straight to Peter Grummitt; I actually doubt very much that it would have had the strength to reach the net. It seemed unbelievable but still we couldn't score. But the key moment was just before half time when Mike Summerbee got injured. Ian Bowyer came on and obviously realising he was now playing for a Cup Winners Cup Final place (Summerbee missed it) he started to take us apart. And City now started to take the game seriously. Bowyer scored early in the second half and it was then desperation time. About 15 minutes from the end Tony Coleman (who'd started the season a City player) cut in from the North Stand side as we were attacking the Kop and smashed a fantastic goal from miles out. It should have inspired us on to win but it didn't; about two minutes from the end some guy next to me said "come on City, put us out of our misery" and Bowyer promptly did with a good header. And that was it. Danny Williams was, in hindsight, a good Third Division manager but way out of his depth in the top flight. But I think the rot really started a couple of years earlier when Alan Brown walked out on us to go back to Sunderland. We seemed to lose our way after that even though there were one or two notable exceptions (beating Man Utd 5-4 and the 3-1 cup win at Leeds); without someone like Brown in charge we just seemed to be staggering along. I don't think any of us imagined back in 1970 what we'd have to go through as supporters over the next few years....
  10. I was at both games as well. It's strange how everyone still persists in saying that Whitham scored four that day but the facts are he didn't. Wednesday's fourth goal was one of the clearest own goals you could ever wish to see; even now I can still picture Nobby Stiles trying to head the cross over his own crossbar but putting it in the net. The only reason Whitham got credited with it was that he was challenging Stiles for the cross. As for Eric McMordie well, he scored six in nine games for us just before Christmas in that dreadful 1974/75 season and just for a while we looked a half decent team. I remember one match in the middle of those nine; the away game at Notts County which finished 3-3. In the first half McMordie was simply brilliant and how we went in at half time only 1-0 up I'll never know. But then, just after the interval, Ian Scanlon scored a hat trick in 2 minutes 45 seconds to put us 3-1 down before Eric Potts pulled one back with a shot from way out. We then started to play as we had in the first half and just before the end McMordie capped a brilliant personal display with the equaliser. We wanted to sign him permanently but apparently he had business interests in the North East (he was with Boro at the time) and I've a feeling he ended up moving to York City. And who remembers Ronnie Ferguson from that time? A 17 year old kid thrust into the first team, scored on his debut (but never again) though he did score against us a few years later when playing for Darlington....
  11. ManUre's supporters had a fearsome reputation that season; I think every single away game they'd been to there had been BIG trouble. So Wednesday decided to put on one or two things before kick off to try and keep the fans happy one of which was some guy running round the pitch giving half a laps start to a guy who was walking! I was sat in the North Stand that day but my uncle was on the Kop. Things really kicked off after Jim Holton broke his leg when challenged by Eric McMordie; United were one up by then but then they just fell apart and conceded three goals. My uncle told me that the fighting was terrible, the worst he'd ever seen. Eventually they had to get mounted police on the Kop to sort it out. That was in December 1974; it's amazing to think that we didn't win a home game again until the following August!
  12. Kivo, I'm sure you've got KF's book but there's a picture in there of the team before the West Brom away game that season....
  13. That's because his figure IS accurate! The Everton game, by the way, was on 29 November 1977 and the crowd was 36,079.....
  14. That must have been the League Cup tie against Everton in 1977/78 when we were in the old Third Division. I think we got over 30,000 that night but can't be too sure.....will check my records later!