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Lemmy117

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  1. I remember as a kid we used to go on day trips by train to Cleethorpes We always set off from the Midland station but the train nearly always returned to Victoria, which meant a long walk to the bus station in Pond Street! Nigel L
  2. Millhouses Lane for certain. The area where the trams are stood as concreted over after the tram. service ended, in the '60's the no.4 bus service used it as a terminus, the bus unloaded here then went down to Silver Hill Road to turn round before coming back up to pick up passengers and head back to Firth Park. Not all the services turned here, some wen through to Bents Green Looking at the trams, I think the one on the left is a 'Standard' and the other one a 'Domed Roof' car Nigel L
  3. Fairly certain the box by the Cathedral is not the one that was there prior to the re-modelling of Church Street due to Supertram construction. Up to about 1992/3 there was a box on the corner of Church Street and St. James' Row and this was due for removal to allow the Supertram stop to be built outside the Cathedral. It was to go for scrap, but I arranged for Balfour Beatty to keep it one side for preservation either at Crich Tramway Museum or Kelham Island. All was going well until a few days before it was due to be removed, when it was brought to the attention of The Star, who put a photo with someone leaning on it in the paper. Suddenly everyone and their Grandmother was up in arms about saving it. BB removed it and stored it at their depot on Blast Lane, and there it resided. Plans were put forward for it to be used as a switching box for point heaters, but it was deemed as not being up to modern safety standards and eventually it disappeared. The one currently at the Cathedral appeared a few years later and the reason I don't think it is the same one, is that the original had a wooden box on the side which used to house a telephone handset, so was fairly unique, and the current one shows no signs of where this box would have been attached. Where the original went to, I don't know, but it is a shame if it did actually end up going for scrap. The box there now possibly came from Prince of Wales Road where one stood unused for years and was only removed in the mid/late '90's. Nigel L
  4. I seem to remember these were removed when the Moor was re-developed after being 'sold off' by the Council to a property management company, so sometime late 90's early 00's
  5. Hunters Bar Infant school from 1961-65, I remember my first teacher was Mrs. Pashley, there was also Miss Brown Hunters Bar Junior school from 1965 to 69. I remember Mrs. Thorald and Mr. Holmes, wish I could remember the others. Failed the eleven plus and went to Silverdale 1969 to 73. I remember Mrs Turvey (maths), Mrs Jenkinson (?), Mr, Shooter was deputy head, Mr. Biggins was head, Mr. Welsh (?), Mr. Tocker (geography), Mr. Hutchinson (games - ugh!), Mr Atkinson (chemistry), Mrs Brammer (biology), Mr. Lyons (physics), Mrs. Wigmore (art), Mr. Horn (English?), Mr. Firth (French), Mr. Wasnidge (music) and Mr. Peckett (metal work). Can anyone fill in other names of teachers around this time? Nigel L
  6. I remember one used to come round Hunters Bar in the early '60's, no horse just a bloke with a deep wooden barrow with long handles and running on cast iron wheels. The streets round there were still laid with setts, so you knew he was coming even before he shouted! Nigel L
  7. Really sad, only found this out today. I first went there when they were open on Sellars Street, full of old army surplus equipment, brilliant for getting parts from. Bought a digital clock board and perspex case for it in the '70's from a box under the counter, it didn't work of course but after a bit of fault finding I got it going, it has 'nixie' tubes for the display, and all these years later it's still going strong, best £5 I spent. Reg was a right character, big into model railways and always larking about, it got him into trouble a few times! I suppose the internet has put paid to most of their business, plus the fact that not many people seem to be interested in making electronic things these days, its all computers. The best thing was they knew their stuff, could always find equivalents and were willing to help out if you didn't quite know what you needed, and they always had the bits you couldn't find elsewhere. Nigel L
  8. Probably been covered here before, but it looks like one of the ones with the Yorkshire Rose cast into the base. There were quite a number around at one time, I think some were around the Basegreen area, probably all gone in Ameys clearance programme. Nigel L
  9. South Yorkshire didn't exist until 1974, set up as part of the Local Government act of 1972, before that Sheffield was part of the West Riding of Yorkshire, although it was autonomous from an administrative point of view. Nigel L
  10. Falcon was allocated to Darnall shed in about 1961 and worked both freight and passenger duties. It was eventually sold to British Rail in 1970 who operated it until the mid '70's. There was a proposal to preserve it, but allegedly a clause in the sale from Brush was that it could only be sold for scrap, so that's what happened in 1976.
  11. Cravens also built the three members of class 129, the single car parcels units in 1955, and the class 311 electric multiple units for use in the Glasgow area. Not sure about the class 141's, they were a lot later and built by British Leyland from bus parts Nigel L
  12. Wasn't that the place that had a 'permanent' Closing Down Sale? Lasted for years! Nigel L
  13. That's true under a 'wayleave agreement' We had many where wall brackets for street lamps were fitted to private houses or buildings in the town centre, sometimes it could be a nightmare finding out who actually owned the buildings, especially office blocks. This was the reason more lights weren't fitted to buildings. In Scotland the law was different and you could attach anything without the owners permission. You were never going to get rich on the payments though, only a few pence per year, maybe a shilling. I remember when the original cable TV service was started in the 70's that the cable ran along the wall of my parents house, I think they got 5p per year! Nigel L
  14. I remember a fire engine crashing into a former tramway traction pole on London Road in the mid '70's, the pole was one of those filled with concrete for additional strength, needless to say the fire engine was a write off, the pole had barely a scratch! A couple of points regarding the Sheffield trams, 513 is currently at Carlton Coalville transport museum in Lowestoft, on loan from Beamish for the foreseeable future. The Roberts cars were introduced in 1950/51, all ran to the end of the system so were in service for about 10 years, not 6. 510 will be operating at Crich again this year having had a re-paneling and full repaint a couple of years ago. Here's a picture of it taken in February when I was shunting it around. As the 8th of October falls on a Saturday this year I hope to be driving it as I have first choice of trams that day. (Hope it doesn't rain as much as on the same day in 1960)! Nigel L
  15. It makes you wonder how much of the original loco is left. I'm fairly sure most bits would have been replaced during works visits over the years, I've heard that even the frames are probably not original as the A1's were prone to cracking. I agree with your point about building a new one instead, I think they've spent over £5m on this thing, Tornado cost £3m brand new, I'm not sure how much they've budgeted for the P2 they are building, it must be in that region, but at least it will be a new loco. Scotsman has been a money pit ever since it entered preservation, successive owners have had to have deep pockets, it's caused many problems to them and some were glad to be rid of it in the end. Personally I cant see what all the fuss is about this loco, give me Mallard any day! Nigel L
  16. Fair point. Although most term it as 'Brunswick Green', it was always described on livery details as 'Dark Green'. Someone has had an original sample tested and has come up with it near to RAL6007, which is near to 'Bottle Green' or 'Deep Bronze Green'. (Ref. Railway Magazine 2011) Nigel L
  17. I take it you mean the smoke deflectors on the smokebox at the front. No, when originally built by the LNER it did not have these, they were fitted during its BR running days, apparently not a great success. They were designed to stop the smoke exhaust 'sticking' to the sides of the boiler and obscuring the drivers vision, they were supposed to deflect the airflow and lift the smoke away. As an aside, the loco is currently running in black undercoat with a minimum of numbers/decoration, it is NOT in wartime black as some have stated, once the running trials have ended, it will have its final paint livery applied, as it is with smoke deflectors i would assume that would be Brunswick Green and with BR logos Nigel L
  18. Be quicker to say what is left! Pond Hill, the pub, post office building and Park Hill flats?
  19. Reasonably easy, if someone wants the land they apply for an order to stop it being a highway, there is a public notice period and if nobody objects the road stops being adopted by the council. Its happened many times, the applicant has to pay for any council property to be removed, street lights is where I became involved, although there may be items such as drainage services where this is not possible, not sure how this is dealt with. Other utilities, gas, water, electric etc. are also notified and may ask the applicant to pay for diversion works. A couple that spring to mind are Windsor Street off Attercliffe Road which is adopted for the first part then the rest is a steel firms, and Westbury Street off Staniforth Road, which I think now is part of a tyre company. Nigel L
  20. ​My son called a few months ago, his Zanussi washer had given up the ghost. Went to have a look and a suspicious smell led me to the programmer, which when I got into it had a neat 1mm hole blown in the centre of the Hotpoint labelled board. Obviously something used to be there, but what? Anyway a check online revealed a recon. board was over £150.00. Down to Currys and for £40.00 more, a new washer! Throw away society!   Nigel L
  21. I started working for the council in the City Engineers department in 1973, back then the council ran most things, highways, cleansing, and house building among other things. Just 6 months later South Yorkshire County Council appeared and a lot of things were transferred to that body. Highways was one of those things transferred in part, Sheffield hung onto parts of its responsibility for 'non county' roads and paths and that lasted until 1977 when the whole lot went under SYCC. When SYCC was abolished in 1986 all its responsibilities were transferred back to the district councils, however the money from central government was reduced, and in a couple of years 'short term' money saving exercises were put in place. In our section this meant capital investment was stopped, which meant 2000 street lamps per year were not being replaced as they came to the end of their time. The same happened in other departments, roads didn't get their correct maintenance etc. This was the start of the rot in terms of service, we didn't do capital replacement for years, only getting an injection of cash when the Councillors decided to re=mortgage Don Valley stadium (remember that?) Revenue budgets in the early 2000's stood still at best, but inflation meant a cut in real terms, it became a case of managing the service with the reducing cash. Add into the equation constant re-organisation, Sheffield Works Department, Sheffield Works and finally Street Force, all with reductions in staff, the constant threat  of redundancy, we always got the 'vulnerability' letters just before Christmas, and staff moral dropped like a stone. Councillors changed, Chief Execs. changed and each time there was an upheaval, we trudged on doing more with less, investment had all but stopped and things looked really grim. By 2005 we entered the process of going into a PFI, it took a further 7 years for it to happen, more uncertainty, more cuts, more gloom. Enter Amey in 2012, the council hived off highways, street lighting and everything that goes with the 'street scene'. Has it improved? Well they've just done the lights near me, 3 months from digging the new holes for the new lights to completing them, a job we used to do in 4-5 weeks, gritting cut back, jobs stopped because they haven't paid suppliers/sub contractors, not carrying out some investments agreed with the council taking a punitive fine instead. Oh I didn't stay long, I resigned, and quite a few others have left as well. I used to be quite proud to work for the council, latterly I kept it quiet. Sorry if this is a bit long but it's sad how in my 38 years of service the role of the council changed from one of providing a service at a reasonable price to outsourcing its responsibilities to outfits who only want to make as much money out of Sheffield as possible. Nigel L
  22. Are you looking for anything specific or just the general layout?
  23. I believe it is the saw mill and listed. When they put up the new building (Savile House?) they had all sorts of issues regarding possible damage to it, this restricted piling operations among other things. Nigel L
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