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    The Moor in 1977

    Having taken a long hard look again my opinion is that we are being somewhat confused by the strength of the camera's ability to foreshorten the distances we are seeing. The first road junction nearest to the camera is Charles Street (on both sides of the road) and the new looking boarding on the left surrounded the site shown in the PS s24079 image (Cambridge Arcade etc.). The concrete street lighting columns would have been erected at approximately 100 foot intervals,subject to practical considerations,and if you look at their number on the original picture and how close they appear to be,that demolition site is the whole of that block of shops. That illuminated circular sign and solid white line would be a 'STOP' whilst there are double yellow lines just visible,on both photos,on the opposite side of the road corner. Between us , we seem to be getting more of the pieces of this one sorted out and just to prove that older threads can be very useful the camera location on this one would have been near to the old Barrel Inn!
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    The Moor in 1977

    Could this have been taken in November on the Day of the Rag procession? Heavy police presence and many people lining the street not seemingly going anywhere plus Christmas decorations along the route. The 'NO ENTRY' signs have an additional plate beneath them which may read "Except for Buses" so what looks like a procession of floats is the reason for the large turnout of spectators. Why not 1977?
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    Oldmapsonline

    Superb! That is so helpful,in finding specific locations, the other descriptive words were used in 2014!
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    Ground history

    Have a look at this; https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=18&lat=53.3765&lon=-1.5319&layers=168&right=BingHyb also Map 285 on this website: https://www.sheffieldhistory.co.uk/forums/topic/4008-os-maps-of-sheffield-and-district-1950s-over-300-of-them/?page=12&tab=comments#comment-23596 for the July 1951 survey. In addition using Google maps you can get a good idea of how it looks now by typing in 'Sandygate' and zooming and scrolling to take a trip along the roads on the north and west boundaries of the site. Certainly a very old wall of 19th century construction I believe.
  5. Just to confirm that the photo location was indeed at the former Nether Chapel. The windows on the right are the Victoria Hall on Chapel Walk and the tombstone (bottom rh corner) was one of a few along that flank frontage to the Walk. The PS shot here was taken when the old chapel was demolished;http://www.picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;s31085&pos=85&action=zoom&id=103293
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    1960's in Pond Street Bus Station

    Although difficult to make out on the picture there is what I believe to be a member of the Ivatt 2MT 2-6-2T class, probably on the Barnsley "push&pull" awaiting departure. Apparently Royston based locos were usually to be seen on this route. 41246 was also used in Sheffield being allocated to Millhouses until its closure on 1st January 1962. I remember visiting the K&WVR shortly after it reopened and 41241 was one of the early working locos. There is an interesting article about this engine on their website; https://kwvr.co.uk/steam-train/steam-train-3/
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    Does anyone know where this was?

    Further to RLongden's research there are more pictures on PS taken by the City Engineers Dept as "Before & After" the road junction improvement. The 'befores' are dated 16 April 1956 whilst the 'afters' are as already stated as 4 December 1956 so that shelter clearly survived that improvement scheme. As I bought my first car in March that year my route to town didn't use Norwood Road and a couple of years later I moved away so my recollections of later events are limited to my visits to parents in S5. ........jigincs post and an extended view of the 'street view' shows just how the car has taken over in the last 60 years. Anyone remember the demolition of the shelter?
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    Does anyone know where this was?

    It is on a 1935 Aerial Photo and I suspect that most visitors to the Hospital in those days would have relied on Public Transport and,as it was a long walk from the trams at Firvale, more people would travel by bus.The end of visiting hours would see an increasing number congregating at this stop so a larger shelter with extra overflow standing room (on the roof) was provided. There was a request stop a short way along Norwood Road for City bound buses and you would often see folk running to it direct from the Hospital gates if a bus was already at the shelter in the hope of catching it !
  9. Whilst browsing in W H Smith's magazine racks (Transport Section) I noticed a small cover picture of a Sheffield Transport bus (No. 116) so had a quick browse of the magazine's content (as you do!). Suffice to say I purchased this "Bus&Coach Preservation" magazine February 2019 issue ( Vol 21 No.9) £4-75 as it contained a 5-page article relating to preservation work being undertaken at the South Yorkshire Transport Museum. In addition there are 3-pages of Sheffield Regents pictures and on the inside front cover three Rotherham DD's as a bonus for local (also distant) enthusiasts. http://www.presbuspublishing.com/bcp.php might be of interest, though may be due an update as the shelf price has increased from that quoted. It's the first time I've bought this magazine, it has 64 pages of content plus advertisement pages at the end. ps, No, I don't work for them!
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    1960's in Pond Street Bus Station

    Last year's thread and I rediscovered this 35mm slide which seems to fit appropriately into this one.Taken in June 1963 when rear loaders were favourite and steam locos much in evidence at Midland Station.
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    Forum Donations

    Yes,an acknowledgement e-mail will confirm a contribution.
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    Chapeltown

    This was an early morning 35mm slide photo taken on 16th June 1962 by Voldy, at the start of a holiday to Majorca. The bus was an AEC Regent 111 No.1258 in the B fleet UWE 758. Two batches of these Roe bodied vehicles were delivered in 1955 (22 & 12) and gave 14 to 18 years service.
  13. Whilst upgrading my knowledge about Wroughton Museum online (I made a speculative unsuccessful call there some years ago whilst in the area), I came across this:- https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-wiltshire-42456778 If you scroll down the article there is a glimpse of RCT Crossley 213 in an unfriendly photographic environment between two fellow prisoners! The local Swindon paper has run encouraging columns over the past couple of years though the lack of funding will no doubt continue to stall any progress on this Museum.
  14. Well done RLongden! Found this (Ecclesall Corn Miller's House) https://friendsofmillhousespark.org/corn-mill-project/the-mill-story-part-14/ interesting history.
  15. Yes, I think you have it right, there are flags visible which could date it to the Coronation of Edward VII (1902). http://www.picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?eywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;s16488&pos=13&action=zoom&id=19204 shows the same tram in 1904 with covered top. A clearer,sharper version of this scene is on page 100 of C C Hall's ' Sheffield Transport' . The white gable distant left of picture could be what is currently No. 57 Wostenholm Road. What is a little confusing is that only one track is visible as the OS map of that period shows double track at this point. Having looked for possible locations on the Fulwood routes nothing with single track seemed to fit. Certainly nothing near the Nether Edge Terminus fits as the poles are on the East side of the road there.
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    Mystery Location Postcard on Ebay.

    Yes Edmund, I agree, the gable you ring is No. 65. The original photographer has very skillfully cropped what he wanted to include in his finished frame. My attempted enlargement of that part of the air photo hopefully supports this location.
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    Mystery Location Postcard on Ebay.

    Is this the answer? Nos. 51 to 57 Whitehouse Lane.
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    Woodseats Tram Terminus.

    Thank you for correcting that suspect date on the wiki site, the whole of the article appears to be a condensed version of the book and it is likely enough to find typos, almost all of us are guilty at some time or other when the mind travels at a different speed to the fingers! No, I never travelled on the Manchester trolleys, in those days there were far fewer cars around and most people relied on Public Transport to get around. I grew up in the years when Municipal Authorities provided many of the services required in their areas for their ratepayers at an economical cost. Times have changed and we have lost a lot of the community spirit and tolerance I experienced, the world of my grandchildren today seems to be changing at a much faster rate than the one I knew. I am glad there are forums recording history in this way for future generations, lets hope it doesn't get lost in the 'clouds'
  19. One of my Uncles was a driver with STD in the 1940's, the No 48 route was his favourite when it resumed after WW2. I recall he was particularly enthusiastic about two of the 1948 new Leyland PS2/1 Weymann bodied single-deckers numbered 188 and 192 referring to them as "Flyers". Apparently a day shift for the crew would start with a trip to Crosspool on the 55 route (Double-deck) then pick up the single-decker for a return trip with the 48 to Manchester. Presumably Townhead Street garage was the 'clocking-on' location and (at that time) Castlegate was the starting point for the 48. On Saturday 3rd December 1949 I travelled to Manchester on one of the three buses needed that day (two duplicates!). My return was by car so didn't make the scheduled 'Refreshment Stop' at the Dog & Partridge which I am sure was appreciated by many! I can only remember seeing Sheffield liveried buses on the route at that time.
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    Woodseats Tram Terminus.

    Southside's picture with details and notes helps to confirm further information from the previously quoted books. It appears that the extension from Chantrey Road to Abbey Lane (Mitchell Road) was opened on 22nd January 1923, the Abbey Lane to Meadowhead section including the triangle came into use on 12th July 1928 the line terminating at the then boundary where the Abbey Brook crossed under the main road to Chesterfield. The original proposal was to run to Dronfield as stated. What might have caused boginspro some confusion, regarding the various extensions to the route, may be explained by the first being from the original 'Heeley' terminus at Woodbank Crescent to Chantrey Road opened on 6th April 1903. I have not been able to find any other references so far. Rotherham did request that trolleybuses be used to operate the joint service on the route to Sheffield instead of trams but the Corporation would not agree! As a result six new single-ended new trams were purchased for this, their only remaining tram route, in 1934 lasting until 1948. My childhood memories from the late 30's and 40's include riding on trolley buses in Rotherham and Mexborough also in London and Brighton; a fine mode of transport in my humble opinion. Sandtoft Museum is well worth a visit if you haven't been yet!
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    Woodseats Tram Terminus.

    From what I can find in C C Hall and Kenneth Gandy's books, No24 was new in 1899 and received its covered top between October 1912 and March 1913. It was renumbered 100 in 1929 and disposal was in 1931. On the extension from Chantrey to Abbey Lane and Beauchief, mention of this appeared in the Spring of 1911 'New tramway extension Bill'. This was Tramway No 2 already authorised in previous Acts. I don't think the track or wiring extended any further than shown in the original photo (It made £44 apparently!) the conductor is seen switching the trolley and those extension wires bear sharply towards the footway. There is slightly conflicting information with regard to the Millhouses Terminus loop where Gandy quotes "A few months after the (April) opening {i.e.line linking Millhouses and Woodseats} the Millhouses turning loop came into use. Hall comments that "This (i.e.the loop) was added in 1928 after complaints of traffic congestion at weekends at the "Waggon & Horses". Probably Sheffield Corporation Acts from the early 1900's are the 'previous Acts I mention earlier in para two. Hope this helps.
  22. Yes, the school dentist in the 40's was certainly there, a yellow card for extractions or a green one for fillings! What did you get ?
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    Fargate in Sheffield City Centre circa 1900

    It looks to me as though a survey was underway and the man kneeling,the 'Flagman' standing between the tracks,the two men to the right of tram 177,one with theodolite legs over shoulder plus the man bending (seemingly on the end of the trolley of the foreground tram!) are the survey team. Possibly in connection with the Leopold Street connection mentioned by madannie77. Was there a rehearsal going on for a Royal visit or something?
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    Street name help please

    Could the word be 'Union' ?
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    When was this built and when did it close?

    Built in the second half of the 1960's .... around '65 to '68. Don't know the date it closed.
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