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  1. If you could tolerate a slight adjustment of the year, have you considered EFE 16105 a Leyland PD2 Fleet No. 601? It was one of 3 used regularly on the 69 Route and would fit perfectly but was disposed of in 1965. The model carries the 69 Rotherham route indicator on a (unusual for Sheffield) single panel board. I received an Atlantean as a gift in the 90's, cost then being just under £10 so it's not changed much.
  2. As long as the Route Number and Destination are changed on the model, yes! The nearest the 53 got to the Wicker Arches was Nursery Street/Waingate, unless the driver missed the turn into Nursery Street
  3. My memory of the 40's/50's is that the Thorpe Hesley was always the 58 and still was in the 1970 timetable. I also associate Fitzalan Square as its starting point but may be mixing it up with the 29 which served Blackburn (the Wincobank one!). Both those routes were single deck buses. The only places I can think of on Halifax Road where a reversing manoeuvre might have been allowed would be the junctions with Chaucer Road or Cowper Avenue. However this is based on my late 50's early 60's familiarity of the area. At that time the 'B' fleet would operate the longer services beyond Wadsley Bridge. Does this help or cloud the matter more!
  4. The Nov 1970 bus timetable shows the 42 Foxhill and 53 Parson Cross jointly working the through route. An undated picture in Chas C Hall's book of Leyland Atlantean 889 shows " One of the first Atlanteans being inspected by the Mayor and other officials...." the front indicator shows the number 53 and 'Private'. This was one of a batch with fleet numbers 881-899 Leyland PDR1/1 MCW bodied 78 seaters received in mid-1959.and with WJ registration letters after the fleet number. At the time of publishing the book (1977) no disposal dates are shown for any of that batch. The model (I think) came out in the early 90's made in China for EFE (Gilbow (Holdings) Ltd -Hemel Hempstead).Model No. 16506. it carries no Registration Plate details, front or rear, but has the other decals. Daimler Fleetline versions used the same chassis.
  5. It wasn't so much a raid on Sheffield, as the Chris Hobbs' website indicates (See ceegee's response above). The target was Manchester and two hits,at Oldham and Tottington, resulted in 49 fatalities. In Sheffield 5, I remember the windows rattling as one of the V1's flew over in a westerly direction early in the morning. Our blitz damage was four years earlier!
  6. How time flies! A few pictures taken on 24th May 1995:-
  7. What year was that neddy? There are gaps in the Master-grid Index in the Southey/Parson Cross areas, maybe yours covers one of the missing areas.
  8. Yes, the old-maps site appears to have stitched together whatever plans they have managed to acquire be they original "1st Editions" of the early 50's or subsequent revised plans. This has resulted in a number of oddities when mismatched dated sheets have been joined to provide a 'rolling map' facility, by scrolling. Maybe SteveHB can offer some information regarding a likely source of 1/1250 plans having been heavily involved in producing this site's excellent library of local plans. Why not try an e-mail to Shoreham Street to see if they can source any versions of 1/1250 sheet SK 3687NW and/or 1/2500 SK 3687 (if printed), I've had helpful responses in the past to my requests.
  9. You will not find areas in the 1/1250 Ordnance Survey plans for specific years.This was a completely new survey at this scale in Urban Areas started in 1950. Rural areas were updated at the 1/2500 scale previously found on the County Series plans, and some 1/2500 sheets were produced in town areas by scaling down 1/1250 survey information (no house numbers were shown on these). The OS had a 'Continuous Revision' scheme where updated versions of the 1/1250 sheets could be requested when areas were newly developed or demolition work undertaken. The Statutory Undertakers made extensive use of this survey for their records of pipes, cables etc.and ,I imagine, still do. Because of the random nature of this work, you will find no consistency of year dates, the first 1/1250 plans produced (Sheffield started in 1950) were allocated the letter 'A'. This appears at the bottom left-hand corner of the sheet, subsequent revisions moving to the next letter of the alphabet (eg B...C...D...). Change to Metric heights took place around 1970 and an example of this can be found on this website: https://www.old-maps.co.uk/#/Map/436154/387798/13/100765 Select the OS plan 1963-1970 1/1250. Sheffield City Council had all the relevant Ordnance Survey Licences to reproduce these plans for their Engineers and Architects and Estates Departments. Do they still have a Printing Department? Surely all those 'negative' master-copies are stored somewhere safe in archives. Unfortunately (Sod's Law again) the Sheffield Victoria Station site falls on four different 1/1250 sheets!
  10. I have three passenger services British Railways timetables covering the following:- (1) Midlands (London - The Midlands - North Wales -The North) 17th June to 8th September 1963. (2) Eastern Region - 9th September 1963 to 14th June 1964. (3) North Eastern England - same dates as (2). There is a lot of additional information about 'Named Trains' and 'Through Services'. All contain route maps. Although not late sixties, PM me if you think there may be anything of use to you in any way.
  11. Most of the Rail threads can be found in the Buses,Trams and Trains section on this site though Sheffield Victoria station has generated quite few mentions elsewhere.There are two Ian Allan books by Stephen R Batty "Rail Centres: Sheffield" and "Railways of Sheffield" containing a wide variety of photographs and history in the South Yorkshire area that might interest you. If you could expand your post, on more specifically what sort of responses you expect (i.e photos or personal anecdotes etc), then I'm sure the posts will appear. There is a G C R Society website here http://www.gcrsociety.co.uk/index.html if that helps.
  12. Did you see this item about the National Parks 70th Anniversary photography competition ? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-47253184 Good to see the favourite was in Derbyshire.
  13. During WW2 we had a couple of holidays in Derbyshire at Calver Sough, one particular memory was when a cereal crop field was being harvested. The cutting started and went in decreasing circles whilst guns at strategic points waited for rabbits being driven out into the open. At this point you will no doubt remember that Flanagan and Allen song "Run rabbit, run rabbit, run,run,run"! which started "On the farm every Friday,on the farm it's rabbit pie day". We certainly ate our share of rabbit in those days, chickens were far too valuable to be slaughtered other than at Christmastime. I also remember the sight of the affect Myxomatosis had on rabbits around 1953/54 whilst on National Service,it no doubt put many people off for a long time and hugely reduced the trade, hence the Chinese option referred to in SteveHB's post above.
  14. Here is an extract from the 1950 OS survey Meersbrook Park in June 1963.
  15. Having taken a long hard look again my opinion is that we are being somewhat confused by the strength of the camera's ability to foreshorten the distances we are seeing. The first road junction nearest to the camera is Charles Street (on both sides of the road) and the new looking boarding on the left surrounded the site shown in the PS s24079 image (Cambridge Arcade etc.). The concrete street lighting columns would have been erected at approximately 100 foot intervals,subject to practical considerations,and if you look at their number on the original picture and how close they appear to be,that demolition site is the whole of that block of shops. That illuminated circular sign and solid white line would be a 'STOP' whilst there are double yellow lines just visible,on both photos,on the opposite side of the road corner. Between us , we seem to be getting more of the pieces of this one sorted out and just to prove that older threads can be very useful the camera location on this one would have been near to the old Barrel Inn!
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