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  1. 12 hours ago, djash1000 said:

    I've look on the link, and it's a bit further down from this map here's a screenshot from that site, I'll circle where i think it is, and also post a more zoomed out picture. The converge here.

    Screenshot_2019-06-01 Old-Maps - the online repository of historic maps - Map 437500 388500 12 100954.png

    There have certainly been a lot of changes round there, I don't recognise much on your photo's though I worked night buses out of Leadmill Road garage and sometimes walked straight across there and up Charles Street. Have a look at the then and now by Stuart0742  just below half way down this page featuring car 503 at that location.   ----------   https://www.sheffieldhistory.co.uk/forums/topic/3030-tram-locations/page/21/

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  2. 8 hours ago, southside said:

    Anyone any idea what was under construction?

    It looks close so would it be Richards Bros. cutlery works. I think the factory finally covered the whole area, including the gaol, and cut short Thomas Street from about Button Lane not long after the war.

     


  3. 10 hours ago, djash1000 said:

    just as an aside, I must have every Sheffield [picture] History book... and I just found from looking for more picture on google, that their was a tram depot on Tenter Street. I can't believe I didn't know! Especially as a slight tram geek too :O I've never seen that in any book of mine.

    Topic here    ----------  https://www.sheffieldhistory.co.uk/forums/topic/14851-tenter-street-tram-depot/    -----------    and here --------  https://www.sheffieldhistory.co.uk/forums/topic/12616-tenter-street-depot-38-townhead-street-garage-official-opening/?tab=comments#comment-105275     ------------    about Tenter Street

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  4. 13 hours ago, djash1000 said:

    So the lines coming in from the left was a spur and connection from upward traffic on Waingate!

     

    Fascinating.

    Sad to see the corn exchange gone.

    The Rotherham and Lane Top via Attercliffe tram termini were on Exchange Street, Here is a tram turning up there and a Rotherham single ender further up.

    EDIT There is a "Then and Now" on this page   -- https://www.sheffieldhistory.co.uk/forums/topic/5996-then-amp-now-sheffield-trams/page/7/

    corn_exchange.jpg

    rotherham_single _ender_on_exchange_street.jpg

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  5. This is a very interesting topic  SteveHB , hopefully members will add to it and it may take off like the drain spotting one did. I do remember a few wells and troughs but have no pictures of them so can I add, please, a couple from Picture Sheffield of two on Wharncliffe Craggs, a place on which  I spent many an happy hour before I left Sheffield. The Dragon's Well and Wharncliffe Rock Water Troughs .

    http://picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;s04193&pos=94&action=zoom&id=7711

    http://picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;s04204&pos=1&action=zoom&id=7722

     

     

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  6. 1 hour ago, Edmund said:

    Sibray, Hall, and Company of 111-115 St Mary's Road, silver and electro-plate manufacturers and merchants were put in the hands of the official receiver with unsecured liabilities of £2,614 7s 7d in April 1931. A winding up order had been made in February. In June 1929 they had to take out a loan on their Fitzwalter Works to pay for a loan coming due with Lloyds Bank.

    Hello Edmund  . do you know if that was Sibray Hall & Co Ltd who I think were the successors to Sibray Hall & Co., or was the company re-formed as a Ltd company after this event.

    EDIT I think I can answer my own question I have just seen a 1908 piece marked Sibray Hall & Co Ltd .


  7. Just a thought but I have only seen the Sydney Hall & Co mark shown in two rectangles where as the mark on the scissors is in two lozenges  and a rectangle more like the Sibray Hall & Co. mark. I am not sure when Sibray Hall closed or were taken over or also whether that mark was used on silver or just silver plate. Unfortunately I haven't a better picture of the Sibray Hall one, I think this one was taken from a round object so is a bit out of shape.

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  8. 3 hours ago, History dude said:

    So in theory that model of the bus could be seen going under the Wicker Arches around 1967?

    Yes or no anybody?

    Yes, we sometimes had that type of bus on the Prince of Wales Circular, route 71.


  9. More a question than an answer, and from a very vague memory but before the 53 route took over from the tram route was the Thorpe Hesley route not number 53. If so I can't remember what the number was changed to in the 60's. Also did the 53 before going to Parson Cross at some time turn at Grenoside or somewhere close, I seem to have memories of reversing somewhere up Halifax Road or further out.


  10. 2 hours ago, Adrian Cook said:

    could have been used to write brail for blind people or would that be totally out of the question.?

    That's something I never would have though of Adrian  ,  it certainly looks like it would do the job of stylus with a thin braille slate.  

    I thought of a tracing stylus, if that is the correct term, for tracing patterns using carbon paper, but for both purposes it would be a bit cumbersome to use and there would only be a very small market for one on a knife. But Richards seem to have been a very forward thinking company who were always looking for new ideas / marketing techniques.


  11. 3 hours ago, southside said:

    I agree with you boginspro the photograph was taken from the lane coming down from Pedigree Woods! Looking over to the left the lane climbs up the hill past Holmhurst Farm(circled) and onward to meet up with Holmhurst Road. Camping Lane winds over to the right,climbing up the hill on its way to Abbey Lane. 

    I haven't found any maps that seem to show exactly the same field boundaries or tree lines. so went for that location only because I can't see anywhere else it could be.


  12. 4 hours ago, Adrian Cook said:

    I wonder if imperial copied Richards or if it was the other way round,

    Yes it would be interesting to know who first made one of these, of course it could have been someone different entirely, we may find out one day.


  13. 1 hour ago, Adrian Cook said:

    No boginspro, still can't find out what they were used as, I haven't any knives with display cards I will have a look at eBay but as you say there are scratches on this knife as if it has been used,I do have one like this and a William Rodgers one also,Good to hear from you ,Adrian

     

    Well I did come across this advertisement today of an American knife with the description " VINTAGE IMPERIAL POCKET KNIFE WITH INK PEN & BLADE "

    https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/vintage-imperial-pocket-knife-ink-pen-473939320

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  14. On 13/04/2017 at 19:43, Adrian Cook said:

    So.my question is what  is it supposed  to be pen or scribe.?

    Hello  Adrian , did you ever find any information about the pen things ?  Also have you any Richards knives with their display cards / packaging ?  There is one on Ebay at the moment, only a smokers knife but starting at 40.00 because it is described as new and has it's display card. Looking closely it looks like the knife has some scratches.

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/323811533259?ul_noapp=true

     

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    3 hours ago, Old rider said:

    I left Laycocks in 1972. Camping lane originally terminated just past the camping lane works and went into a rough track serving the allotments that went up the hill, it certainly was not a made up road as shown on the side by side map . Later on the allotments were closed and a tarmac road leading to the crematorium was made. The tragedy was that one of the labourers named Edgar had a pigeon loft on his allotment. When he got notice to quit he killed all his pigeons then hung himself in his pigeon loft. Regarding the stream it was only really visible at the side of the footpath. I cannot remember any evidence of it in the Camping lane factory car park.   

    Thank you, although that sad story shows how important allotments and the pigeon lofts were to many people. So many changes to that area, I had noticed that part of Camping Lane is marked on many 20th century maps as a footpath or shown as a track. I found the maps on the link below showing the works and the allotments with the crematorium shown on the overlay.

    https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=17&lat=53.3444&lon=-1.4907&layers=193&b=1


  16. 8 hours ago, Old rider said:

    I used to work at Laycock Engineering Archer Road Site. They had another factory and car park on Camping Lane. I used to park my car on the camping lane car park then walk along a footpath through perigree woods that was used to connect Laycock's 2 factories. To Fraser Road side of the footpath there was a stream that went into a pipe just before it reached Archer Road.

    Can you remember the contours of the land  Old rider  , could the woods be behind the camera? In the photo' there is a path going off at an angle up hill to the left which could possibly be the one on the map going from the stream towards Holmhirst Farm which is shown on the map linked to by  SteveHB . Is the stream you mention the one that goes underground in the sports ground on the modern map? If so it very nearly lines up with the one on the old map. I could  be in the wrong place altogether mind, I can't see any field boundaries on maps that seem to match the photo'..

    https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=17&lat=53.3463&lon=-1.4892&layers=6&b=7

     

    laycock.pngEDIT : I see that the stream goes all the way to Archer Road on the 50's map ----  https://www.sheffieldhistory.co.uk/forums/topic/4008-os-maps-of-sheffield-and-district-1950s-over-300-of-them/page/11/

     

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  17. 49 minutes ago, RosePosie29 said:

    I have lived on gleadless Avenue for the past three years! Our neighbor has said there used to be an old inn at the  bottom of our garden... called The Inn... which was then demolished to  build the New Inn on hollinsend road? He states the pathway behind the pub is old original lane down to the old Inn and he has the old stone wall left in his garden. Has anyone got any further info!!? I can only find an odd building on a early 1900's map but it dosnt state what the building is. And any other history of our road would be lovely! 

    Thankyou! 

    1854 /5 has Hare and Hounds Inn.

    https://www.old-maps.co.uk/#/Map/437830/383758/10/100391

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  18. 2 hours ago, SteveHB said:

    Map that shows the 'now missing' part of Camping Lane.

    I used N.L.S. georeferenced maps to make my guess as to the location.  I had the idea that the stream on the old map may be in the bottom of the valley on the photo'. I couldn't find anything conclusive though and of course if it is that location could it be facing the other way?


  19. I think this must be part of Camping Lane that has now gone. Looking at old and modern maps my best guess as to the modern location is near the bottom of Periwood Lane. I am probably miles off so would anyone knowing the area and contours of the land have a better idea. I think there was a stream in the valley bottom, I wonder if that is still open?

    EDIT - I have just found it on Picture Sheffield, "Date Period:1900-1919"

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/303159027009?ul_noapp=true

    Camping Lane.jpg

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