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  1. 13 hours ago, rover1949 said:

    I've often wondered how stone troughs were made.

    Did they just chip out the middle with a hammer and chisel or was there some way of cutting out the middle section?

    Most troughs you would find in the Sheffield area would have been carved from a single block of gritstone or sandstone. In some areas of Yorkshire and Derbyshire where slate was easily available they were made of sheets of slate bound together with iron staples to make them watertight, I wonder if there are any of those left in the Sheffield area.
     


  2. 2 minutes ago, Heartshome said:

    They are narrow, I am sure they are just modern inspection pipes for something. The spring that fed this pump goes down into the park, running from higher up I believe, where there was another trough and pump near some cottages, I think not far from the Church.

    Thanks, I'll have a look at some old maps.


  3. 14 minutes ago, Heartshome said:

    Hi boginspro, went to investigate the area of the well & pump for you. Re your 2nd photo:- just over the short bit of wall, a few feet down the pathway, among the grass & weeds, are 2 tall black pipes. One has a top on it, that is obviously to screw off to inspect something. Standing at that point with a copy of old photo in-hand, I think it could have been the location. I have left it with my friend up there, to try and get more info from the residents for you.

    Hello Heartshome, and thank you, are either of the pipes big enough to be the base pipe of the pump please?  I have not come across an old type pump with two pipes, normally the base is the lift pipe, but a diesel, petrol, or electrical pump could have been fitted at a later date. Where I live now Lister engined pumps replaced the old hand pumps a long time ago. The last hand pumped well I used you had to prime the pump with a bucket of water to get it working so once you had your bucket full there was not much point in using the pump.


  4. According to the site linked to below Green & Hatfield were the first to brew at Cannon Brewery in 1838 and William Stones acquired the brewery in 1912. But Wikipedia says Stones purchased the lease of the Neepsend Brewery in 1868 and renamed it the Cannon Brewery. Does the newspaper advertisement mention the brewers name in  1897 please Edmund  .

    https://www.bcd-urbex.com/stones-cannon-brewery-sheffield/

    EDIT It looks like the linked site is not correct because Picture Sheffield has an image labelled   "Annual horse parade of William Stones Ltd., Cannon Brewery, Date:  09/06/1902"


  5. On 11/06/2019 at 20:23, SteveHB said:

    A few wells/troughs in the Walkley Bank area, not intended to be an answer just a possibility.

    Walk_Bnk.jpg

     

    Here are the old houses that were behind that trough, Unfortunately it is not a very wide view, I think this photo' was taken in the late 60's or early 70's. The houses and the well that fed that trough are shown on 1850's maps standing all on their own, no other houses on the road.

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  6. 3 hours ago, SteveHB said:

    A few wells/troughs in the Walkley Bank area, not intended to be an answer just a possibility.

    Walk_Bnk.jpg

    Google street: https://goo.gl/maps/FjctKqPnKVn8KTGe7

     

    I lived up the road from here a long time ago and vaguely remember the area. I think the well up by the old houses must have fed the trough at the position shown on the Google image by pipe. The trough was at the side of the road as shown on your maps before the road was straightened. The water then ran under the road into the old allotments. I think the original picture could be the other side of the road in earlier times but have some doubts because it appears to be looking up hill  and I thought it was downhill all along that side of the road (or was there as slight mound before the downhill?). The original picture reminds me of a place on Rivelin Valley Road where water ran out of the woods a bit closer to Malin Bridge. 

     


  7. 4 hours ago, History dude said:

    Boundary Gleadless Road.

    Any clues as to where this one would be today?

    My only idea would be where the old County, Parliamentary, Union and Urban District boundaries crossed Gleadless Road, there is a bend and a triangular shape on the old maps that may match the photo'  and where the Meers Brooke crosses under the road would be an ideal place for a well / trough ------  NLS https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=18&lat=53.3536&lon=-1.4457&layers=168&b=1 

    and Google Earth.

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  8. 1 hour ago, Heartshome said:

    Will be visiting my friend who lives just down the road from here, I will investigate for you.

    Thanks, that will be interesting, I wondered if the trough had been re-used as a flower bed or just display near the house, I doubt there will be any trace of the well or pump, but you never know. 


  9. A well with pump and trough near the Bishop's House. Using NLS georeferenced maps it looks like it's location would be just in the corner of the garden shown on the pictures. I wonder if the trough  is still in the area, I lived by the park, but that was about fifty years ago so I wouldn't remember whether the trough had been re-used in the area.        ----------------       

    http://picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;w00293&pos=22&action=zoom&id=45640         ---------

    https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.3510237,-1.4704915,3a,60y,1.03h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sStFfibJwqj3BnOUYGeX_1A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en      -----------

    https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=19&lat=53.3512&lon=-1.4708&layers=168&b=3

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  10. Anyone got £150.00 to spare, or you can get it on the 'never never' . Reduced from 195.00  ----
    "A RARE VICTORIAN NOVELTY SOLID SILVER POCKET OR PEN KNIFE & BUTTON HOOK IN THE FORM OF A FISH. REGISTERED DESIGN NUMBER 342746. MADE BY J NOWILL & SONS HALLMARKED FOR SHEFFIELD 1899"    EDIT Now up to 185.00 ( or 16.00 a month ) but accepting offers . ------

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/382960772487?ul_noapp=true

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  11. 12 hours ago, djash1000 said:

    I've look on the link, and it's a bit further down from this map here's a screenshot from that site, I'll circle where i think it is, and also post a more zoomed out picture. The converge here.

    Screenshot_2019-06-01 Old-Maps - the online repository of historic maps - Map 437500 388500 12 100954.png

    There have certainly been a lot of changes round there, I don't recognise much on your photo's though I worked night buses out of Leadmill Road garage and sometimes walked straight across there and up Charles Street. Have a look at the then and now by Stuart0742  just below half way down this page featuring car 503 at that location.   ----------   https://www.sheffieldhistory.co.uk/forums/topic/3030-tram-locations/page/21/

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  12. 8 hours ago, southside said:

    Anyone any idea what was under construction?

    It looks close so would it be Richards Bros. cutlery works. I think the factory finally covered the whole area, including the gaol, and cut short Thomas Street from about Button Lane not long after the war.

     


  13. 10 hours ago, djash1000 said:

    just as an aside, I must have every Sheffield [picture] History book... and I just found from looking for more picture on google, that their was a tram depot on Tenter Street. I can't believe I didn't know! Especially as a slight tram geek too :O I've never seen that in any book of mine.

    Topic here    ----------  https://www.sheffieldhistory.co.uk/forums/topic/14851-tenter-street-tram-depot/    -----------    and here --------  https://www.sheffieldhistory.co.uk/forums/topic/12616-tenter-street-depot-38-townhead-street-garage-official-opening/?tab=comments#comment-105275     ------------    about Tenter Street

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  14. 13 hours ago, djash1000 said:

    So the lines coming in from the left was a spur and connection from upward traffic on Waingate!

     

    Fascinating.

    Sad to see the corn exchange gone.

    The Rotherham and Lane Top via Attercliffe tram termini were on Exchange Street, Here is a tram turning up there and a Rotherham single ender further up.

    EDIT There is a "Then and Now" on this page   -- https://www.sheffieldhistory.co.uk/forums/topic/5996-then-amp-now-sheffield-trams/page/7/

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  15. This is a very interesting topic  SteveHB , hopefully members will add to it and it may take off like the drain spotting one did. I do remember a few wells and troughs but have no pictures of them so can I add, please, a couple from Picture Sheffield of two on Wharncliffe Craggs, a place on which  I spent many an happy hour before I left Sheffield. The Dragon's Well and Wharncliffe Rock Water Troughs .

    http://picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;s04193&pos=94&action=zoom&id=7711

    http://picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;s04204&pos=1&action=zoom&id=7722

     

     

    dragon's_well.jpg

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  16. 1 hour ago, Edmund said:

    Sibray, Hall, and Company of 111-115 St Mary's Road, silver and electro-plate manufacturers and merchants were put in the hands of the official receiver with unsecured liabilities of £2,614 7s 7d in April 1931. A winding up order had been made in February. In June 1929 they had to take out a loan on their Fitzwalter Works to pay for a loan coming due with Lloyds Bank.

    Hello Edmund  . do you know if that was Sibray Hall & Co Ltd who I think were the successors to Sibray Hall & Co., or was the company re-formed as a Ltd company after this event.

    EDIT I think I can answer my own question I have just seen a 1908 piece marked Sibray Hall & Co Ltd .


  17. Just a thought but I have only seen the Sydney Hall & Co mark shown in two rectangles where as the mark on the scissors is in two lozenges  and a rectangle more like the Sibray Hall & Co. mark. I am not sure when Sibray Hall closed or were taken over or also whether that mark was used on silver or just silver plate. Unfortunately I haven't a better picture of the Sibray Hall one, I think this one was taken from a round object so is a bit out of shape.

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  18. 3 hours ago, History dude said:

    So in theory that model of the bus could be seen going under the Wicker Arches around 1967?

    Yes or no anybody?

    Yes, we sometimes had that type of bus on the Prince of Wales Circular, route 71.


  19. More a question than an answer, and from a very vague memory but before the 53 route took over from the tram route was the Thorpe Hesley route not number 53. If so I can't remember what the number was changed to in the 60's. Also did the 53 before going to Parson Cross at some time turn at Grenoside or somewhere close, I seem to have memories of reversing somewhere up Halifax Road or further out.

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