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  1. 1 hour ago, Paul Worrall said:

    For all the steam buffs out there, on Saturday morning the Yorkshire Man is running along the Hope Valley line.

    Can't call myself a steam buff but I would love to see a film, if anyone gets one, of it passing through the Sheffield area . I did travel all over Britain on the railways when we still had steam engines and it was the easiest and most relaxing form of transport for very short or very long journeys. I am not overly fond of the modern railways, the last time I was on a train I found the seat uncomfortable and could hardly get my legs under the table even though I had paid what I considered a very high price for the ticket.


  2. 2 hours ago, hilldweller said:

    I think that the stairway is located at the far end of the gardens where the advertising hoardings are located.

    I think you are right there, but if that is the case I can't work out what that other landing with the railings is.  I seem to remember the steps being almost opposite the 71 stand when the new bus station was built. There was a zebra crossing at one time and when you crossed it you had to go a bit to the left for the steps. The area changed so many times and so quickly it's hard to remember but is this the steps and landing on this photo' ?

    http://picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;s15872&pos=44&action=zoom&id=18623

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  3. 4 hours ago, hilldweller said:

    I recall walking up and down them many times in the fifties and they certainly had a dog - leg in them halfway down (or up).

    The corporation had used surplus "wavy tin" sheeting left over from Anderson Shelters, The sections that form the bits on each side of the entrance door, to make fences/walls on each side of the path, These were erected with the angled edges facing upwards presenting a sharp saw-tooth appearance to the fence top. I recall seeing a photo somewhere, probably on Picture Sheffield.

    I was going to say something similar but thought I may have been mistaken, your description really jogged my memory, I also walked up the steps at least once a week for many years, often from the bus station to my favourite pub, the Adelphi, until both the steps and pub vanished. Early map here, but it does show the steps with a dogs-leg.

    https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=19&lat=53.3806&lon=-1.4656&layers=168&b=1

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  4. Could it be Sheffield Tramways Company , Under the legislation at that time, local authorities were precluded from operating tramways but were empowered to construct them and lease the lines to an individual operating company. Tracks were constructed by contractors and leased to the Sheffield Tramways Company, which operated the services.

    The first horse tram routes, to Attercliffe and Carbrook, Brightside, Heeley, Nether Edge and Owlerton opened between 1873 and 1877 and the Corporation (City Council) took over the tramway system in July 1896 and quickly went for electrification.

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  5. 2 hours ago, hilldweller said:

    If my memory serves me well, it doesn't usually, I seem to remember that it was used as a stand for milk churns awaiting collection. I may possibly remember a fellow miscreant trying to get one of the lids off to quench a thirst but if pressed I would plead the UK version of the fifth amendment

    That brings back memories  hilldweller  , there were stone ones, brick ones and wooden ones but I can't remember another galvanised metal one.  I thought of starting a "Milk Churn Stands" topic but the only ones I may remember would now be under new developments. If anyone knows of any more that still exist this one would be a good start for that topic.


  6. Children’s Corner, Firth Park. Just above where the bowling greens and tennis courts were, Firth Park Road in the background. I think that is the same park keeper’s lodge that I remember from my time in Sheffield, but looking at Google Earth it appears to have gone, I wonder when that happened?

    I like the sign on the swings “ FOR BOYS UNDER (?) STANDING UP NOT ALLOWED”.

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/392375304094?ul_noapp=true

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  7. Embassy Court really stood out as a landmark on The Park, we considered the place rather posh even in the 50's. Here it is in 1935 looking over the Midland Railway line. Full picture here   ----  Britain From Above   ------  https://britainfromabove.org.uk/en/image/EPW047988

    EDIT - Working from a very dodgy memory but I think they must have been pulled down in  the 80's, not sure but I think the flats above and most of that area was cleared again about '85 so I think they couldn't  have lasted much longer. I seem to remember Embassy Court still standing with rubble all around and was surprised that they were finally demolished but there were rumours structural defects..

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  8. Quite a few John Y Cowlishaw items appear on Ebay, This lovely silver pocket button hook is on at the moment for 48.00 including postage and described as   ------  

    " A fine antique Sterling silver Folding Pocket Button Hook ,the Mother of Pearl polished and engraved to one face polished flower handle side , the hook silver with hallmarks has signs of use , this beautiful item is hallmarked sterling silver for John Yeomans Cowlishaw ,Sheffield Sterling . L = 1903 Cowlishaw killed himself late 1890 s ,the mark continued to be used by his son ,the Silver with small use marks need a clean in the details , the spring action fine and tight the mother of pearl in good condition ,sold as shown , the size approx 5.5 cm long x 1.2 cm wide , it will improve with a clean, lots of high quality items listed . New to the market from House Clearance . "

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/antique-Sterling-Silver-pocket-Button-Hook-M-O-P-John-Y-Cowlishaw-Sheff-1903/323788912386?hash=item4b6352b702:g:IloAAOSwNZxcwg03

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  9. 10 hours ago, frechylass said:

    old no 12 (market tavern) berni inn steak house on orchard st

    Hello   frechylass , The Old No 12 (Market Tavern) Berni Inn was on Exchange Street. I may be wrong here but I think the Dore Grill on Church Lane,  Dore was a Berni Inn. There are a few posts on here mentioning Berni Inns, There might be the odd comment in one of those that helps, link below  . ---------- EDIT I think the one on Orchard Street was just called Berni Steak Bar or something like that.

    https://cse.google.co.uk/cse?cx=partner-pub-3209186142524727%3A3018540469&ie=UTF-8&q=&sa=Search#gsc.tab=0


  10. 14 minutes ago, Nigel Bundy said:

    It is the same size as other Joseph Rogers hunting knifes I have seen on the internet. The only difference is it has a wooden handle and they had horn handles. Also I took it to the Antiques Roadshow, the lady who looked at it was trying to find a colleague how was particularly interested in "penknives"but he was not available. We discussed the size of the knife, and she agreed that it was two big for a pen/pocket knife and that it could be a hunting knife. 

    Thanks for that information , I will keep an eye out for one of them, it looks like a handy size for many things, I like a big knife in the garden. I should have added above that I have been told that the dryness of central heating is not good for the wooden handles but if well oiled it should be OK, I think it is more a problem of contraction and expansion due to moisture content changing.


  11. 41 minutes ago, Nigel Bundy said:

    I would like to know how to look after the wooden handle and blade?

    This is my way and roughly what my uncles did, they were all in the cutlery trade.

    You need to wash the knife as needed but dry it off quickly and thoroughly and don't soak the handle or leave the blade to start rusting.
    Don't leave the knife in sunlight.
    Keep the knife oiled, any good wood oil for the handle, though I use olive oil.
    For the blade I use light machine oil but anything that stops rust is OK, you don;t want to ever need to scour the blade.
    Nice knife I think you asked for information about this knife previously, where did you get the information that it is a hunting knife please?


  12. It has me baffled why a pub in Sheffield would be called the California Tap, was it a nickname like The Cuckoo and if so why? Or perhaps an owner moved to California in the fashion that I believe North America Farm got it's name. Ideas / guesses anyone please?

    Even Horse and Garter seems a bit unusual to me, I can't think of another one.


  13. 3 hours ago, SteveHB said:

    Memorandum that Mary Ann Whitaker, widow, took the tenancy on 12 July 1856."

    In the directories below it is just listed as the Horse and Garter with different addresses in the same area. .   

    1825 Gell's - Crownshaw Thomas, victualler, Horse and Garter, 34,
    Water 1ane.

    1833 White's - Lowe Isaac, Horse and Garter beer house, 54, Bridge street

    1852 White's - "Whitaker Wm. vict. Horse and Garter, 32 Bridge street

    1856 White's - "Whitaker Mary Ann, vict. Horse and Garter, 32 Bridge street"


  14. On 09/04/2007 at 20:35, nosy nellie said:

    my grandmother was one of them mentioned

    Hello  nosy nellie , a bit off topic but here goes anyway. your gran would probably have known some of my family, the Broadheads, who lived and worked in the area, it was a lovely friendly place at the time. I think one of my uncles worked at the Port Mahon works at the side of court 13.

    I couldn't resist having a look to see what was there now and was surprised to see on an aerial view that you can see the outline of the streets etc. at times of dry weather. There also appears to be a path that now follows the line of Burlington and Hammond Streets just above Court 13.

    https://zoom.earth/#view=53.387527,-1.484314,18z/layers=archive1,labels

    https://www.sheffieldhistory.co.uk/forums/uploads/monthly_09_2008/post-188-1220941618.jpg

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  15. 2 hours ago, Heartshome said:

    Hi boginspro. Been back Norton Lees, and had a word with the gentleman volunteer historian in Bishops House, he was most intrigued about the Trough and Pump, we went to have another look at the black pipes.One has a screw cap on so must be some sort of inspection pipe, the other is bent at an angle, the man thinks it was the old post for a sign that was cut off !? We looked around for clues as to where the exact location might have been, the road was widened, taking up quite a bit of ground from when this picture was taken, that makes it a bit more tricky. He said he would try and find out a bit more about it, and when I go again, we will have an indepth search from photo's and maps.

    I did call at the house on the corner,and spoke to the owner explaining about the Trough and Pump, he said he didn't know about it, and had found nothing in his garden. There are quite a few feaures where digging has been done at some point.I will let you know.

    Thanks  Heartshome , looking again at maps and the pictures I think that if the pump is marked accurately on the old maps it looks like any clues available would be very close to the boundary wall. It surprises me that the property owner doesn't know of the old well/pump, perhaps not as nosey as me.

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  16. 6 hours ago, unrecordings said:

    trying to figure out if the ghostly silhouette in the top left of the photo is a distant tree or rooftop - looks a little angular but having problems focussing on it...

    I did wonder if it was this building, you can see it closer up in the previous images. My memory of the area is very poor, is that building Brook House?

    Good find unrecordings  and Edmund it is great to find connections to names on these old postcards.

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/R-L-Postcard-Fulwood-and-Forge-Dam-Sheffield-landscape/142778535115?hash=item213e438ccb:g:IWEAAOSw46ha3w1t

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