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  1. Fascinating stuff....I had come across Jonas as well as a number of other notable German residents who were "persecuted" during WW1 and business is business...As an example, until David Lloyd George became Minister of Munitions we were actually paying the Germans for using their patented shell fuse design ..
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    Who has played Sheffield City Hall?

    Hermans Hermits ( not forgetting the 4 Blades who,off stage, actually played the backing!}
  3. And not forgetting those who put in an objection to the application...especially those members of the Hallamshire Historical Buildings Society.
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    Paper bins

    I remember them but never had one. Our bins were nice, solid galvanised steel until replaced by plastic wheelie bins.
  5. The steel works condition is under "Sheffield War Years and the Sheffield Blitz" and the Cinema piece is under "Cinemas, Theatres and Music Halls"
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    Old Date Stone

    Spike was definitely a legend. I knew him not only as a school master but also as a local ( Congregational/URC ) preacher and this kept my acquaintance with him well into the 1980s. He not only taught me but also taught my son. Which troop were you in....Baden Powell or Rowallan?
  7. Have you ever been up to Sheffield, I wonder.?..If not, then I suggest you do...if only to get a feel for the City. We still have several large pre-War housing estates where your characters might have lived as well as streets of terraced houses ( back to backs have long since gone).We also have many buildings which were extant in the period, but sadly few steelworks! If you can't come up and spend a few hours in our archives doing some historical research for yourself then I suggest you try widening your search terms on the internet and also reading about the period either from histories of the pre-war period or, perhaps, novels ( although there are very few centred on working class) . Within minutes, for instance, I had found for you the release dates of a couple of Hollywood films showing in Sheffield in 1938/9 simply by asking questions. Heartshome, makes a good suggestion about asking senior clubs...and as Secretary of one such club I know that many members would be happy answering your questions. However,you would probably need to "lead" them into their personal histories...trust has to be won! But remember ,even the eldest member would probably have only been a school child in 1939...which is nearly 80 years ago!
  8. I have just left you a fairly comprehensive piece on Sheffield war years and the Blitz.. As a published author with one or two history books under my belt ,I feel hands on research might be needed if your novel is to have any authentic feel.
  9. The adverse social and economic affects of the industrial depression of the 1920/30's was ,by the mid 1930's, being replaced by "re-armament" and , as a consequence, full employment. Indeed, so busy were many of Sheffield's steel plants that , for example,armour plate for a range of naval vessels was being imported from Czechoslovakia ( until the Germans took over in 1938) in order to meet the Admiralty's shipbuilding programme. Most steelworks worked the "Sheffield shift system"...Monday to Friday...6am to 2 pm. 2 pm to 10 pm and 10 pm to 6 am with overtime on Saturdays and Sundays when things became frenetic!! Working conditions would depend almost entirely on the occupation. Steel melting/hot rolling/forging or stamping were HOT and potentially highly dangerous with white hot steel ,to the outsider being almost casually handled... it wasn't it was skill and experience which made it appear so. Turning or other cold working operations tended to have much better conditions....although safety glasses and gloves were often not worn. Old Rider mentions acid pickling...that job tended to leave people with bad lung conditions as did grinding. Health and Safety ,as Johnm suggests, was far less important than it is today ( we should probably thank the EU for that) Many plants operated equipment that was fit for exhibiting in an industrial museum and human muscle was still widely used...mechanisation was slow to be introduced in many of Sheffield's smaller steel plants, Pay was generally poor.(£143 per annum average) Clothing was often ordinary ( but old), In hot working operations legs would often be protected with sacking, with trouser bottoms being tied around the ankles with thick thread . Steel toe capped boots or clogs with steel strips attached to the soles were the usual footwear, Safety helmets almost unheard of...although steel melters would sometimes wear protective head gear and goggles. Others would wear overalls and "flat caps" were common. Sheffield was a very proud city and still resented its poor treatment after being the "arsenal of the Empire" during the Great War. Unemployment had affected Sheffield as much, if not more, than any other industrial area and this was remembered by the workers who were determined it should never happen again ( it did!) but the post war unwritten social contract to aim at full employment,as a Government priority, saw Sheffield become something of a boom town from 1945 until probably the early 1980/late 1970.s
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    Sheffield Cinemas

    I don't know, but a little research shows that the Carlton opened in August 1938 by screening "Kings Solomon's Mines" ( released in 1937)and in 1939 the Rex was showing "Men with Wings" ( released 1938), A search of the micro filmed Sheffield newspapers held in the Archives/Central Library would quickly show what was being screened in almost all of the Sheffield cinemas in 1939...then you would have to find when they were first released.
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    Old Date Stone

    I grew up near Lane Top and walked past the wall, with its inscription, 4 times every day, going to and coming from FPGS where "Spike" was , for a time, my form master. He was famous for his "ghost stories" about the Brushes and especially, I recall, one about a riderless horse which had thrown its rider into the brook at the bottom of the hill killing the rider. I joined in the "wide games" held by the Scouts, seemingly, always on cold winters nights across and around Longley Park and district. The old stone inscription and its wall , I was told, probably by Spike, came from an old property demolished in order to build the Corporation estate
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    Birley Spa

    At a time when local authorities are having to make difficult decisions on account of Central budget cuts, the sale of properties are helping stave off cuts to vital, statutory services .This is becoming an all too familiar occurrence ...throughout the country...and is NOT just a Sheffield problem... even Conservative controlled Councils are feeling the pinch as witness the virtual bankruptcy of Northamptonshire CC.which has dipped into its reserves to such an extent they are almost exhausted. The baths were in a state of semi ruin and neglect until fairly recently after receiving a grant for renovation... but on my few visits I have never seen them open., in fact, I was told they were closed and needed money spending on maintaining the old building. The valuation is based on the severe development restrictions a grade11 listed building incurs... Were we to live in a nation with a Government which allowed Local authorities to sensitively develop such assets than we might all benefit but, alas, that is no longer permissible.
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    Dunkirk-Sheffield Royal Engineers

    I really don't know....sometimes my postings have been instantaneous but I have noticed the odd tardy one. Anyway, give my regards to Normandie one of my favourite parts of la belle France ...a place I sadly haven't visited for far too long.