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  1. I see these earthworks wherever I go. Would they be old allotments, animal pens, small holdings or what? Thanks.
  2. Robin wouldn't recognise the old place!
  3. First let me apologise for being a little sharp last time round. The truth of the matter is, there are many people called Robin Hood and here is a list the author claims to be comprehensive, but it is shorter than other lists I have seen and I notice they do not include Robin of Loxley otherwise known as Robin Hood. http://www.robinhoodlegend.com/robin-hod-surnames/ I speak to many people on the internet who all have their own traditions. You know what they say about Chinese Whispers for example and how things get changed in the telling. Whether these Robin Hoods were the real Robin Hood is another matter altogether. They cannot all be. Professor Holt, for example, made short work of the Nottingham candidate and the authoritative “Complete Peerage” Volume 6 speaking about Nottingham’s candidate says, “Robin Hood (for whose existence, no contemporary evidence has been found) was first called Robert fitz Ooth in a fictitious pedigree concocted by the 18th century antiquary William Stukeley.” People write to me and say, “My name is Robert Hood do you think I am a descendant?” Another person, surname Littlejohn thinks he is a descendant of the Hathersage man. It was a nickname for crying out loud. Until someone found contemporary evidence in the form of his pardon, that locates Robin in our neck of the woods, and associates him with Gisbourne at a time when “the authentic Robin Hood ballads that were the poetic expression of popular aspirations in the north of England during a turbulent era of baronial rebellions and agrarian discontent.” (Encyclopaedia Britannica) nobody actually knew who Robin Hood was. How people can write books and not know who the central character was, seems little short of insanity. The legendary hero has always been Robin Hood otherwise known as Robin of Loxley. Robin of Loxley is our starting point, and it rules out Robin of Nottingham, Robin of Rawmarsh, Robin of Wakefield etc. etc. One 'proof' the academics require is that the real Robin Hood needs to be related to the prioress who killed him and lo-and-behold we have the prioress in Loxley named Alice de Mounteney. In short Robin of Loxley conforms both to history and to the 'Geste of Robin Hood.' When all three, legend; the Geste, and history agree, then we cannot be far from the actual truth. I urge you to read here and if you have any questions, I will endeavour to answer them. https://robinhood-loxley.weebly.com
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    Wadsley/loxley Common

    I wrote about Frank Fearn and other topics here. Click on the full-screen icon in the bottom right-hand corner for a more comfortable read. https://issuu.com/grahm/docs/a_visitor_guide_to_bradfield_and_district_libre
  5. Thanks. The Sloane manuscript, that was written in France by John Major, or rather those who have attempted to decipher it, have a lot to answer for. The kings living at the time of Robin Hood were, it is true, kings John; Richard, and Henry, but we know from Robin's pardon dated 1382 that the kings of his day were King John of France, King Richard II and Henry Bolingbroke. There were no friars in England at the time of King John. Furthermore, the Geste of Robin Hood which corrects the mistakes of the Sloane MS that was an early draft, tell us the king for most of Robin's life was Edward our comely king, i.e. Edward III. This is supported by no less a person than Professor Holt who writes, "the Geste of Robin Hood was written circa 1450 and all the literature, the setting and the dates are in this later medieval period. “Major’s conception about a 13th century Robin Hood was not reinforced by argument, evidence, or proof it was simply recycled through later versions of the tale and so became part of the legend. Neither is this view supported by the earliest ballads, they name the reigning monarch as “Edward.” Neither is Normandale House invironed with Loxley Firth.
  6. Dictionary.com defines 'bower' (2) as being a cottage. bower noun (1) a leafy shelter or recess; arbor. (2) a rustic dwelling; cottage. (3) a lady's boudoir in a medieval castle. S. O. ADDY, M.A. also defines Robin Hood's Bower as being a cottage. A tradition is recorded in 1637 that Robin Hood was born in Loxley Firth. The passage in Harrison's Survey of that year is as follows: Imprimis Great Haggas Croft (pasture) lying near Robin Hood's Bower (cottage) & is invironed with 'Loxley Firth & Cont. 1-2-27 On the map below, we have Bower Cottage and I think it is fair to say it is invironed with 'Loxley Firth. Does anyone have any thoughts on this regarding Robin Hood's cottage, please?
  7. We are talking about glass the size of a house wall and almost as thick. (slight exaggeration. )
  8. Yes, the upstairs window went the whole length of the house. It was Edward III who set up the first guilds and in the early days the master mucked in with the rest of the men. As time went on they became business men and it evolved in the way you say.
  9. I was talking to someone the other day and they told me Ganister is still used today in the rolling of special glass.
  10. The particular document you quote (Sloane Manuscript) was written in a very 'crabbed' style of writing. It was almost illegible. As they used Roman numerals it was even more difficult to decipher dates. The pardon received by Robin was for events in the reign of Richard II. The experts make these comments: Barbara A. Buxton writes, “The legal and royal records for the reigns of Richard I and King John are quite adequate to detail Robin’s offences, but they do not. Neither is the name of the sheriff ever mentioned even though the names of sheriffs were recorded as far back as 1135. There were no friars in the England of King John, the first came to England in 1221. Professor Holt confirms the above, saying Robin was active in the later medieval period. He writes, “the “Geste of Robin Hood” was written circa 1450 and all the literature, the setting and the dates are in this later medieval period. “Major’s conception about a 13th century Robin Hood was not reinforced by argument, evidence, or proof it was simply recycled through later versions of the tale and so became part of the legend. Neither is this view supported by the earliest ballads, they name the reigning monarch as “Edward.” This accords with Professor Thomas Ohlgren who writes the Geste was “commissioned by one of the fifteenth-century guilds-possibly the Dyers Guild in the light of the many references to cloth and liveries-to commemorate Edward III not only as the protector of the English Channel but as the founder of seven of the twelve Great Livery Companies.
  11. You make a good point, but just to add, merchants made a good living and a merchants house was quite spectacular. I sometimes wonder if they wove, dyed and made cloth in the winter and went round the markets in the spring, summer and autumn? About the cold, the Geste has this, translation mine.
  12. I think with the council, it is a case of "do as I say, not as I do." Credit due though, they do take into consideration the age of the tree and whether or not it poses a risk to the public. I always think of meat stews when I read about Haggas Croft. I don't know if you are aware that Loxley falls within ancient Northumbria. The boundary is the River Don. The field system is the same as the Scots method of farming. But thinking about the coal and ganister that was extracted, I am sure the area was extremely rocky.
  13. If we need to confirm Robin's place of birth we can always fall back on Robin's pardon that reads: “Robert Hode otherwise known as Robert Dore of Waddeslay in the county of Yorkshire received the Kings pardon May 22nd, 1382”. (Roll of King’s Pardons 4-5 Richard II 1382). The Wadsley family were the lords of the manor and Loxley was a sub vill. of Wadsley. What is good about the pardon is that there are several places in England called Loxley. It simply means a forest clearing. The inclusion of Wadsley in the pardon confirms it is the Yorkshire Loxley.
  14. People interested in the subject, told me many years ago, that Little Haggas Croft, the birthplace of Robin Hood was near Great Haggas Croft where the gamekeeper William Green lived. Later they used stone from the derelict Little Haggas Croft for the foundations of Normandale House which was a normal thing to do. That leaves us with two options, either Little Haggas Croft was on the site of the present Normandale House, or it was a little lower down the hill where in the 1930's they were mining ganister stone. I will just add this from the Sheffield Star:
  15. It sounds to me as though you are more interested in the "legend" as told to the tourists? Perhaps you are from Hathersage and wish to perpetuate the modern fabrication? Have you ever thought of asking why Little John's chair in the Scotsman's Pack is a Windsor Chair of comparatively recent origin? Have you ever imagined outlaws lugging Windsor Chairs, that did not exist in Robin Hood's day through the forest? Have you ever asked yourself why the 'grave' is the length it is, and why the yew tree is only recently planted? Have you ever enquired about the Blacksmith's Cottage in Hathersage that was burnt down and demolished in the late 1800's? It comprised living quarters on one side and a forge on the other side. The blacksmith was John Naylor and it is his chair that is in the Scotsman's Pack. He was small and known as "Little John." He was not an outlaw. I refrained from telling about the fake thigh bone that was obtained from the local butcher's shop so as not to offend the people of Hathersage or the name of the later blacksmith, who if I remember correctly died in the fire. However, I do deal with the real companion of Robin Hood, who we are told was Earl Huntley's Son, as tactfully as I can without offending the Naylor family, even lending support to them. Perhaps it is best to leave the dead, and their relatives in peace. https://robinhood-loxley.weebly.com/hathersage-little-johns-grave.html
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