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  1. Because River Don is the major river of South Yorkshire and flows right across it from the extreme west to the extreme east I have always had an interest in its source. The location of the latter is somewhat complicated by the fact it is dammed very early in its course by the Winscar reservoir which is about 6 miles west of Penistone. However, careful inspection of a large scale map shows that the Don, as a stream, flows into the reservoir's western arm (see pic 1) and its source being just over a mile further west from there at SE 119 027 (see pics 13 & 14). By the time the Don flows into Winscar numerous streams have already converged into it including one from "Don Well" (see pic 6) which is situated at SE 133 027. Despite its name the well cannot really be thought of as the source because the Don is already a significant stream (see pic 5) before it reaches that area. Furthermore the quantity of water flowing into the Don from the well is relatively insignificant, or it was on the day I visited (see pic 8). Arguably, because it is all a little subjective, the Don rises from an area of marshy ground around Withens edge and at that point it appears to be named Great Grain(s). Interestingly the aforementioned area is the watershed for the Don and the River Etherow (see pics 13 to 16) , the latter flowing in the opposite direction and eventually ending up in the Irish sea via the rivers Goyt, Tame and Mersey. The Don's eventual destination is, of course, the North sea so, in this area, drops of rain landing just a few feet one way or the other determines which sea they flow into 140 miles apart. It is not just coincidence that Holme Moss radio transmitter is situated less than 2 miles from this watershed (see pic 13) because transmitters are, ideally, situated at altitude to maximise their coverage. Holme Moss is purely a radio TX these days but when it was built in 1951 it transmitted TV (on VHF) over both sides of the Pennines, just like the Don/Etherow watershed does for water ! Also see : https://drtomsbooks.files.wordpress.com/2019/11/the-yorkshire-river-don-b.pdf Pictures (in rough geographical order E to W) : 1 - River Don entering the west end of Winscar reservoir 2 - River Don flowing down towards Winscar reservoir 3 - Confluence of Little Grain Clough (?) and the Don 4 - The River Don just downstream of Don Well 5 - Last confluence of the Don (or Great Grain) before Don Well 6 - Don Well 7 - Water rising from the marsh at Don Well 8 - Water from Don Well seeping into the Don 9 - Just down from the Don watershed, looking west 10 - Early course of the Great Grain 11 - Typical rising of a watercourse 12 - Great Grain as a brook 13 - River Don watershed facing WNW towards Holme Moss transmitter 14 - River Don watershed facing east 15 - River Etherow watershed facing SW 16 - River Etherow watershed facing SW (note Holme Moss transmitter to the right).
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  3. Im sure there are many memories of the old Tinsley Yard. It's heyday was slightly before my time, although I do remember going to the last few open days growing up. The Sheffield District Railway is a fascinating story. Some of it still used. Some of it left waiting to maybe one day be reclaimed and some of it wiped out. Ironically, it's been in the news this week that the Meadowhall Rd bridge may be taken down.
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  4. Mabel Brooke ran the sweetshop / tobacconist shop. She was there in 1939 (with husband unemployed clerk Cecil) and still there in 1957 (Kellys Directory). But by 1969 it was in the hands of M. Staniland, a confectioner according to Kellys, so must have boarded over the Brookes' name. Cecil died in 1983 and Mabel in 1995.
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  5. Here's a stack of pictures all from the March 6 2002 edition of British Railways Illustrated. The first shows the passage to the lift. The second the passage to the station from the lift. 3 is the loading ramp and the end of the passage. Pic 4 is the booking office and the way to the trains. 5 is the subway. 6 is the top end of platform one. 7 is the middle section of the same. And the final one is the end of the line of the track scene from platform 2. All pictures are pre 1965.
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  6. The hotel was built in 1862 and both the Manchester Sheffield and Lincolnshire and Great Northern Railways subscribed to it. It was always a stand alone structure and passengers from the station had to pass out via the ticket barriers to get to the Hotel. At one time it was very black with smoke and when they cleaned it up, they left a small patch to show how dirty it was once! I have been told that my grandmother Alice Appleyard worked as a cleaner there. The picture below shows it in 1969.
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  7. The introduction to "Mothering Sunday" on Wikipedia explains how it evolved: So having been converted from a European religious observation it became an American "Motherhood and apple pie" type event and then slipped back across the Atlantic. Then, as Athy noted, the card manufacturers noticed a gap in the market and Father's Day was invented. In the '60s Dad was rather disapproving of "Mother's Day" as against "Mothering Sunday" and treated Father's Day as both Athy and Heartshome mentioned. Mum on the other hand rather liked childish home made cards and hearts from my brother and myself!
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  8. Although now one of our UK yearly celebration days, it actually started in America at the beginning of the 1900s,. The first one originally being held to honour Fathers who had been killed in a mining accident, as well as those who survived. It was a day also actively pressed for by a lady who wanted Fathers, to have their day in thanks, as did the Mothers. It's interesting how these things come about!!
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  9. I do remember Fathers' Day cards being introduced, perhaps in the 1970s or 1980s. My parents would have nothing to do with it: "It's just a commercial thing, not a proper religious festival like Mothering Sunday" was Mum's, and therefore the family's, official line. We did observe Mothers' Day, indeed woe betide us if we didn't.
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  10. Hi Athy. I have found some more intriguing info. - Apparently, European Catholics have been celebrating Father's Day since the middle ages, originally on St Joseph's Day 19th March. An annual day of Fatherhood, can be traced back to 1508, but it may possibly have started even earlier. Though our modern Father's Day idea is known to have started in America in the early 1900s, it was in 1966 Lyndon B Johnson declared that the 3rd Sunday in June would be known as Father's Day,. Then in 1972, Richard Nixon had it written in to the law. The UK had already taken up the idea. Apparently it started to gain popularity here after the 2nd World War, with the American influence, and by the late1960s it was well established. I do remember my Mum celebrating Father's Day when we went to my Grandad's, giving him his favourite Park Drive ciggi's and a bag of his favourite sweets, they were like large Fisherman's Friends. didn't half niff!
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  11. I've started a site covering the history of Norton Lees - I'd appreciate any information, photos, maps etc. to add. http://nickrobinson.info/nortonlees/
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  12. Here is a great site for going back in time. You can change the size of the spy glass, move it about, move the map about. https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/spy/index.cfm#zoom=17&lat=53.38263&lon=-1.46640&layers=168&b=1&r=41 g
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  13. I came across this photograph amongst some postcards bought at a recent antiques fair, on the back Massey Ferguson and what looks like (Sheffield) Anyone recognise where the photograph was taken?
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  14. I'd be seriously worried about the cars on the right under the lamp post with most of the concrete missing! And before we have a spate of council bashing, this was a private road, so they weren't council lamps. 😁
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  15. Another view
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  16. I lived on Norborough Rd back in the 60's and remember all that area long before the motorway was built and where the filming of the FOUR LIONS was made on Sheffield Rd, that street ran on for some way, across the road was a bank, further down were a number of shops and post office, then along came the building of the motorway, on Saturdays we'd go to help the workmen doing odd jobs from cleaning their mess cabins out to odd job carrying, for 5 shilling it was well worth it, some very happy days spent in and around the area, Tinsley was one of the best places I lived at during my youth. The canal was always known as the 'cut', as youths we swam in it during summer, there were old bomb shelters further down towards Rotherham behind the works, happy days.
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  17. The Leary sisters Left to right : Ethel Baker Leary , Ida May Leary , Doris Hilda Leary , Eva Maude Leary
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  18. Thanks for that SteveHB you must have a magic touch with Picture Sheffield. I wouldn't have fancied living in number 14, it would certainly follow number 16 (boarded up} into the river at some point. I'll bet the people who lived in that row didn't slam their front doors
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  19. Hi I have a mojo membership card which expired August 68, it was my mums and I was made behind mojo’s lol, wonder if this is anything you would be interested in
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  20. My observations are all from pictures of the station. I did sneak onto it one day in the 70's, via the loading dock area. My friend and I had to do it when the signal man at Number three box wasn't looking. We got on to platform two and three via the white steps that had been put in to let staff get onto the platform more easily. I suppose it was for the train crews of the goods trains that were still passing the station and change of crew. You can see them in the photo below with a nice shot of the hotel too. We only went on to see what it was like. It was remarkably still intact, we were too scared of going inside any of the buildings or down the steps of the subways. I didn't know there was a staff canteen. There are a number of buildings of odd design on the station in the photos I have seen. One is of a brick building, could this be your canteen? Then a green and white structure near the end of platform 4 and 5. What was that for I wonder? The last picture is a shot of holiday makers in 1962 crammed onto platform five! You can see the lights with the station name above them and a tannoy system.
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  21. In my job I travel (full time) the UK and visit villages, towns and cities. Go on any facebook group about ANY place (I have to do this as part of my job) and you'll get the older generation doing nothing but slating their local council, saying the council are responsible for the downturn of their town or city centre, that it used to be better in the old days etc etc Even amazing places - the places that you visit, love and admire - on their facebook groups - people whinging about their council. It's so tiresome That's just my opinion
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  22. It’s my opinion that our Council have somewhat limited powers over planning and are always aware that a rejected application can cost us a small fortune should it go to appeal. Similarly , they have little responsibility for development…depending largely on inward investment…..although ,recently, they acquired the Cole Bros building in a failed attempt to keep a John Lewis presence in our City centre and the old Court House saga is another example of the limitations Councils have. National Governments ,over the years ,have steadily eroded Council powers ….to the extent that “emasculated “fairly describes them. Gone are the days of Chamberlain in Birmingham and “Municipal Enterprise”…..and who knows what our Regional Mayors May achieve. Sheffield Council are not immune from criticism but ,in fairness, are under severe financial constraints ,yet they still do their best to manage a large City with its own problems …remaining from de- industrialisation over 40 years past.
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  23. Perhaps I am being a bit harsh on the council and they are investing heavily in the city centre with the Heart of the City project and they have announced plans for the regeneration of Fargate and purchased some of the buildings but I just feel that an opportunity has been missed to create an area for small independent traders to breathe some new life into Chapel Walk. I do not want to criticise the council and be seen as a 'whinger' and hopefully the current investment will help re-vitalise streets like Fargate and Chapel Walk.
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  24. Athy, If you're free the 11th and 12th June, why not come down to the Emergency Services Museum for the experience. The Guys and Girls would be happy to explain anything to you. They maybe classed as a bit 'off the wall', but they are very passionate about what they do, and love the history of Victorian technology. I think you would find it of interest and something quite different. I'm looking forward to it! Regards Heartshome.
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  25. It's because they are 'Unconventional' with their Fashion and Fictional Technology, and with Steam being their Power source, not electricity. I guess you could say it's because they 'go against the norm'. *( Just for a bit of extra info! The word STEAMPUNK is said to have been first used in a novel in 1987 by K.W.Jeter called MORLOCK NIGHT. He used it to describe genre of speculative fiction, where Steam not electricity drove technological advancements )*
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  26. Hi Athy. They're not the sort of punks you're thinking of with spikey green hair! Ha! Ha! Roughly! it's a Vintage style of Fashion and Design ideas, based largely on the Victorian era with a Modern Slant. Encapsulating Steam Power and Science Fiction, with a strong interest on the mechanics of Time Pieces. It makes for a very interesting event. Heartshome
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  27. There are still lots of shops in Sheffield, but they are not located in the City Centre. For example Sheffield still has several model railway shops, which I might had is not common in other places! Rails of Sheffield recently expanded their Heeley store. I suppose like many shops that have specialist items to sell they like the lower rentals and rates of the suburbs. Though some property owners can get a little greedy with rents there. When I was on the Manor a lot of shops were often changing due to landlord putting up rents. The building site approach of the current City will not help trade. If you can't get somewhere or it takes you ages to park. You will not go shopping there. I remember a lot of business loss money due to the construction and disruption of the Supertram system.
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  28. It's a sailing course or oversailing course. The projecting stonework with a mortar fillet on top provides an inclined surface to help throw water clear of the wall face.
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  29. Hello! As many of you may know, Leah's Yard on Cambridge Street was once a collection of industrial workshops that survived until the late 1900s. It is currently undergoing a £6m restoration and is set to open mid 2023 creating a unique heritage destination of local independent retailers, cafes and restaurants. We are very aware that Leah’s Yard has a long and rich history as a key part of Sheffield City Centre, and as part of the redevelopment we would like to uncover and share the stories that you all have. Whether you worked there yourself, know someone who did or visited Leah's as a customer, we would love to hear from you. If you have photographs from the time that you don't mind sharing that would be amazing too! These stories are essential to conserve the heritage and life at the heart of Leah's. We are also looking for more recent stories from when Leah's was used by independent businesses up until 2007. You can either message on here or email us for further information. Email: TAP@leahsyard.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/leahsyard/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/leahsyard/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/leahsyard
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  30. I have a picture from 1969 in colour of the front and the sign was never replaced. On the arched wall thing do you mean the long one that runs the entire length of the wall? If you do I don't think it was something you could walk on, just the end of the arch section. Then the wall of the slope rests on it. I suppose it acts as a foundation base for the wall. Rather than build direct to the stone of the arches.
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  31. My earliest memory of the Vic would be in the immediate post war years…accompanying my Mum to stay with her Aunt and Uncle in Grimsby. The lift from the Wicker was where we accessed the station after getting off the tram in the Wicker. Once the lift was exited there was a short walk, with a train siding to the left ,and the hotel to the right .Luggage had usually been taken the night before and left in a dedicated left luggage spot for us to collect. My grandfather ,a man of few words, was a driver on the then LNER…and very proud of the company! He claimed to be a communist yet ,being a member of ASLEF and the NUR at the same time, managed never to go on strike ,claiming “ the revolution isn’t coming out of my ******back pocket”. As a young lad I spent hours on the station ,at weekends…awaiting a “ kop”, …..which was very rare. My final visit was in the last weeks of the service to Manchester ,with my wife and 2 kids ,when we caught the electric train on our way to Blackpool.
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  32. Surely the Victoria station was built to replace Bridgehouses station? The Wicker was the Midland Railway station, this was the MS&L station. Bridgehouses then went on to become the goods station. Nigel L
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  33. Some twenty or so years ago I looked at the 1881 census return which showed the upper floors of the Coles building were used to house the staff.
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  34. This screenshot from Rail Map Online shows Angel Street and the associated tracks in Pink, it's a good website if you're interested in old Railways and Tramways
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  35. The many arches, three of them shown here on Furnival Road, my father told me that many of them were used to ripen bananas, seems they are just sold in their green unripe state now.
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  36. At a guess, I would date that around the 1960's. That's judging from the taxi and the shape of the car roofs. I miss it too and was a regular visitor in the 1950's and a bit less so in the 60's. The dinners in the staff canteen were delicious, priced at one shilling (5p) and pudding for sixpence.
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  38. I look forward to seeing it, the original was brilliant and Robert Carlisle's Sheffield accent was spot on.
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  39. Thanks Page Hall-er. I will send them an email.
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  40. The plumpers, end of Shepcote ln and Sheffield Rd Image from Google Street View
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