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  2. Hi Stu Whilst researching my 2 x Great Grandfather, Joseph Ogden, I came across this post of yours along with the replies from Syrup which have helped me get a better 'take' on my own family's connection to the Redmires area. Regrettably though I'm not going to able to provide you with any information to assist your own research. Sorry about that. Nevertheless, I thought I'd cheekily take the opportunity to tap if I could, into your knowledge of the area to help me in my own family research. My ancestor, Joseph Ogden was born 29 April 1841 and his birth certificate gives his birthplace as Fairthorn Fullwood (sic) which I was able to locate on one of the maps in this thread. I have since found an earlier map (surveyed 1850/51) which shows the area before the third reservoir (Upper) was constructed, which I've attached here. This suggests that the Fairthorn mentioned on the birth cert is actually Fairthorn Green. However, on the 1841 census taken on 6th June (just 5 weeks after his birth) the address given (whilst I can't actually decipher it) certainly doesn't appear to be Fairthorn. There are two separate families living at whatever address it is and the occupation of the head of the other family (Thomas Peacock) is given as Gamekeeper. I've attached a screen shot of that 'address' on the census in the hope you may be able help decipher it. The following census of 1851 doesn't really help either as the Peacocks have moved away and the Ogdens' address is given as Water Company House which isn't especially helpful as I feel there may be several similarly named abodes in that part of Redmires. Joseph's father's occupation is given as Labourer on both censuses. The neighbouring addresses on the census are Wyming Brook and The Grouse and Trout Inn although I know that on censuses at that time, especially in rural areas, it doesn't necessarily follow that the sequence of addresses mean they are physically close neighbours. I hope you'll forgive me the liberty of tapping your knowledge when there's no quid pro quo for you! Kind regards
  3. When you read my email Trevor Albert Price lived at No 30 not 33.
  4. Thank you once again Edmund,very kind of you Janet
  5. FMP doesn't have any Kellys Directories access. The most user friendly way to access Sheffield directories (though only Kellys for 1925) is via Sheffield Indexers website: http://www.sheffieldindexers.com/DirectoriesIndex.html 1843-65 Sheffield Burgess Rolls 1875-76 Sheffield Burgess Rolls 1787 Gales & Martin Directory of Sheffield 1791 Universal British Directory 1825 Gell's Directory of Sheffield 1828-29 Pigot's Commercial Directory 1833 White's History & Directory of Sheffield 1837 White's Directory of Sheffield & Rotherham 1841 Henry & Thos. Rodgers Sheffield & Rotherham Directory 1846 Slater's Directory of Sheffield 1852 White's Gazetteer & General Directory of Sheffield 1862 Drake's Directory of Rotherham & District 1871 White's Directory of Sheffield & District 1905 White's Directory of Sheffield & Rotherham 1911 White's Directory of Sheffield & Rotherham 1914-1918 Roll of Honour Sheffield Men 1925 Kelly's Directory of Sheffield & Rotherham 1929 Kind Hearted Brigade Members - The Weekly Telegraph 1859-1908 Sheffield Cemetery Road Congregational Church Members 1866-1934 Sheffield Anglican Clergy
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  7. Thanks Edmund. I never knew that. Very useful stuff. Do tyou know if Kelly's directories are available on FMP?
  8. The 1939 census (or, properly, register) is available via FindMyPast. Some information about it from FMP: The 1931 census was destroyed by fire. No census was taken in 1941 because of the war. So the 1939 register is the only national census-like resource available for this period. Once war became inevitable the British Government knew they had to issue National Identity cards. They planned for the wide-scale mobilisation of the population and the eventual introduction of rationing. The most recent census was now almost a decade old, so more up-to-date statistics were needed. Some preparations had already begun for the 1941 census, so the Government capitalised on this to take a register of the civilian population. They issued Identity cards immediately afterwards (which were used until 1952). The Government constantly updated and changed the 1939 Register over time to take account of changes of address or deaths. When they introduced rationing in 1941, they planned it with information from the 1939 Register. The 1939 Register eventually formed the basis of the NHS registration system.
  9. Thanks for that. I think mum and dad moved there when they were married 1936. I thought the census was only published every 100 years. Have they charged the rules? If so could you tell me where you got the information because I would like to see the whole of the street and some of those surrounding it. Thanks, Trevor
  10. The 1939 census may help, certainly the Warrs were at number 123 in 1939:
  11. Hi. I found these images on a website devoted to Sheffield cinemas. I worked in Pitsmoor in the mid-70's and travelled back to 'the Lake District' on the 75/76 bus. The banners/posters for Studio 7 were very explicit, 'Virgins doing this that or the other!' or somebody 'Confessing to this that or the other!'. Wazzie Worrall 7
  12. I wonder if anyone on here can help me. I lived on Hodgson Street until it was demolished in 1962 and I'm trying to establish who lived on the street when I did in the 1950s. My first port of call was a Kelly'y Directory for 1957 which I downloaded. Big disappointment. For some reason the section of Hodgson Street that I lived on between Clarence Street and Hanover Street on the odd number did did not record the names and numbers of the street facing houses yet the even numbers were recorded, Very odd. Does anyone have access to any Kelly's Directories pre or post 1957 that record the names for this section and the part between Hanover Street and William Street. It also seems odd that Kelly's didn't record the names of people who lived in the courts they were the invisible residents. Names I can remember from my childhood are 125 Priest 123 Warrs 121 either Crossley or Furniss 119 Barker 117 Jackson 115 Vera ?? 111 I think was the Wests Court 23 Hodder, Marshall ans Whitehead Court 21 Goff/Gough,, Higgins, Hague, Morton If anyone would like lookups for 1957 please let me know.happy to help. Many thanks in advance.
  13. There were no butchers with German names in Sheffield during the 1820’s, but they did start to appear in the 1830’s. In November 1836 Christopher Wiebel, a German Pork Butcher was trading on South Street Moor, when he had a pair of boots and some copper stolen. The culprit was let off on a technicality as the prosecutor’s name was spelt as Weber on the indictment. In September 1839 now reported as being Wrebel, though still in South Street, he had his till stolen. There were Kramers running pork butcher shops in Pinstone street, Sheffield in 1833 On Christmas Day 1844 George Henry Heigold, a 23 year old butcher, (son of John a shoemaker), married Maria Lant 20, (daughter of John Lant, an Eating House proprietor) both of Masbro, at Rotherham parish church. At the 1851 census George and Maria were at 24 West Bar. George was a pork butcher and stated that he was born in Germany (but a British subject) At the 1851 census, George’s brother Christian Heigold was a 26 year old assistant pork butcher working for Eliza Stork or Slack (she couldn’t write her own name hence the confusion) at Masbro Bridge Foot. Christian married Eliza on 19th November 1851, both were living at West Bar, presumably temporarily, as they continued to run the Pork Butcher business in Masbro. A third brother, John Frederick Heingold was born in Germany in 1838 (son of John Jacob Heingold, shoemaker), and married Harriett Hoult on Boxing Day 1859 at Doncaster – he was a grinder and they were living at Hexthorpe.
  14. I`m sorry but these the only pieces of information I can find. Hope they help. 1852 Heigold George Henry, pork butcher, 24 Westbar / shop demolished Heigold Christian Frederick., Masbro ================================== 1856 Heigold George Henry, pork butcher, 24 Westbar Heigold Christian Fredk. (Pork Butcher) 7 Bridge street, Masbrough / Heigold is such a rare name this chap is a relative of George Henry ================================= 1862 Heigold Geo. Henry., pork butcher, 24 Westbar ======================= 1879 79 Infirmary Road Heigold Geo. Henry. pork butcher / shop demolished ============================= 1893 56 Fieldhead Road Mrs Heigold / house still standing ========================= 1911 732 GRIMESTHORPE ROAD Heigold Joe, labourer /house demolished ===================== From Sheffield Indexers Heigold, Christian F. (, butcher). Address: 9 Bridge St., Masbro', house Fitzwilliam Rd, Rotherham in 1871. Recorded in: Whites Sheffield & District Directory - 1871. Find Similar at Same Address if Available Surname Match if Available Heigold, Christian Frederick (, pork butcher). Address: 7 Bridge st, Masbro', in 1862. Recorded in: Drake's Rotherham & District Directory - 1862. Find Similar at Same Address if Available Surname Match if Available Heigold, George H. (~, pork butcher). Address: 24 Westbar, Sheffield in 1871. Recorded in: Whites Sheffield & District Directory - 1871. Find Similar at Same Address if Available Surname Match if Available HEIGOLD, George Henry (Qualifying property, House and shop). Address: 24 West Bar, St Philips in 1855. Recorded in: Sheffield Burgess Rolls. Find Similar at Same Address if Available Surname Match if Available HEIGOLD, George Henry (Qualifying property, House and shop, 24 Westbar). Address: Westbar, Sheffield in 1864-65. Recorded in: Sheffield Burgess Rolls. Find Similar at Same Address if Available Surname Match if Available HEIGOLD, George Henry (Qualifying property, House). Address: 77 Infirmary Road, St Philips in 1875-1876. Recorded in: Sheffield Burgess Rolls. Find Similar at Same Address if Available Surname Match if Available HEIGOLD, Henry (Qualifying property, House). Address: Pye Bank, Brightside in 1855. Recorded in: Sheffield Burgess Rolls. Find Similar at Same Address if Available Surname Match if Available HEIGOLD, Joe (~, Shopkeeper). Address: 106 Grimesthorpe Road, ~ in 1925. Recorded in: Sheffield & Rotherham Kelly?s Directory. Find Similar at Same Address if Available Surname Match if Available HEIGOLD, John (Qualifying property, House). Address: Alfred Road, Brightside in 1875-1876.
  15. The 1897 witnesses, Harry and Emma Mosley lived on Moore Street, which was the next street, parallel with Hodgson Street. Harry was a pocket knife cutler.
  16. PB, that’s the last piece of the jigsaw I would think, wonderful work by you and the others, brilliant.
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  18. William Booth died the 16th March 1900, He is buried along with his wife Elizer, son William and daughter Lucy Ann in the General Cemetery. This article about the Booth Family is from The Times newspaper of 1880.
  19. Wicker Picture House, Wicker with Wicker Arches and Victoria Station in the background, 1958
  20. In the late 1800s Redgates we’re making prams in the Fitzalan Square / Bakers Hill area.
  21. Very sad to see iconic Redgates go, my Silver Cross high slung babies pram came from there in 1972 and from 1980 to 1985 I worked two days a week on the switchboard there, I remember Redgates when I was a child and it was at the bottom of the Moor always looking in the window on the way back from my grandmothers and having a lovely baby doll from that shop Everyone loved Redgates
  22. From The Star, regarding how Cambridge Street got its name... This street, which runs beside John Lewis, was first called Coalpit Lane. It was renamed to mark the laying of the foundation stone of the Crimea Monument at Moorhead by the Duke of Cambridge on October 21, 1857. The Duke, who was Commander-in-Chief of the army, died in 1904. The monument was moved to the Botanical Gardens in 1959.
  23. William Henry Booth, born 18 July 1818, baptised 9 August 1818, Sheffield Parish Church. Parents, Henry and Sarah of Sheffield, Hatter. Marriage 30 April 1846, Sheffield Parish Church. William Henry Booth, 27, Bat, Surgeon, Workhouse Croft, father, Henry Booth, Hatter. Eliza Spink, 23, Spin, of West Bar, father, Jno. Spink, Pawnbroker. Winesses: Wm. Spink, John Booth, Charlotte Spink and C? Booth. William Henry Booth son of William Henry and Eliza of Paradise Square, Surgeon, baptised 26 April 1857, St Jude, Moorfields. Death Registration, Q1 1900, Ecclesall Bierlow. William Henry Booth aged 81 years. (No burial found). 1901 census, 24 Wilkinson Street, Sheffield. Eliza Booth, 79, Widow, Living on own means. (Plus one sick nurse and two servants). Its possible Eliza died in 1907 aged 86 years, but it is under 'Elizabeth'. There are a few years missing for William Henry, on one of the census entries, at the side of surgeon is.....M.S.C.S. Edinburgh and L.A.C. London, presumably where he studied.
  24. Well SteveHB that’s several more pieces of my jigsaw, perhaps someone knows something about William Henry Booth.
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