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    The most fair and noble city of Sheffield situate in the delightful county of Yorkshire [WEST Riding]
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    Railway History in particular Manchester, Sheffield and Lincolnshire, Lancashire, Derbyshire and East Coast, Midland and North Eastern; Coal Mining History; Steel Making and Associated Industries and Pubs; Restaurants and Football. Although I find all history topics to be fascinating, in particular, those about Sheffield, Rotherham and surrounding areas.

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  1. Rare and Racy to close at the end of June

    Groan I think that my musical tastes are quite wide and diverse, ranging from Michael Butterworth's 'By the Banks of Green Willow' at one end, all the way through to Scooter's 'Jumping all over the World' at the other end. However - bizarre jazz - NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  2. Diseases in 1920's

    My own maternal grand-mother, died of Pulmonary tuberculosis, in Winter Street Hospital in 1927. I do not know a great deal about Winter Street Hospital, but it certainly seems to have been some form of isolation hospital, as it seems to have been at the centre of the major Smallpox epidemics that blighted Sheffield in the nineteenth century. It seems to be mentioned in all of the official reports of the time. One of the principle recognised sources of tuberculosis, is through the consumption of raw (unpasteurised) cow's milk, and it wasn't until milk pasteurisation became widespread that the effects of the mycobacterium tuberculosis bacterium were first effectively contained. In-fact, the legal definition of 'pasteurised milk' is milk which has been heat treated to a specified temperature, for a specified time, both of which together, in combination, are known to kill the mycobacterium tuberculosis bacillus. A number of time-temperature combinations are recognised, but H.T.S.T., or high temperature, short-term pasteurisation, (161°F (71.7°C), for 15 seconds), is still the most commonly used. T.B. testing of cow herds, and their milk products also played an important role in the control of tuberculosis, although the real change was the widespread adoption of milk pasteurisation. Does anyone remember 'T.T. Certified Milk? That essentially was tuberculosis testing.
  3. Which pub did you first get served in?!

    Still find them in use of football match-days. I suspect for the reason that you have given, and perhaps also for the simple reason that most pubs never carried enough glass stocks, or a big enough glass-washer to cope with the massively increased demand.
  4. Which pub did you first get served in?!

    The George Inn, Market Street, Woodhouse, and I still from time-to-time enjoy a drink there today, even though like most pubs nowadays, it has been 'knocked through' into one big room. I still covet the original 19th century grand-father clock, which surprisingly after all of these years is still extant and still keeping time, even though, it seems to have lost its 'spectacle-plate'. The George was the preferred 'underage' drinking-den for me and my mates, as the Royal and Angel were sometimes frequented by my father, and the Cross Daggers and Stag, by my grand-father. So essentially, we were unlikely ever to be discovered in The George.
  5. Rare and Racy to close at the end of June

    I am really sorry to hear of the impending demise of this, one of Sheffield's long-established and for me, much loved institutions. Sic transit Gloria mundi as they say. However, if you are perchance looking for that long-out-of-print book about some obscure piece of Sheffield history, then I would recommend that you should start with John L. Capes, an on-line antiquarian bookseller, now based out of Staithes, just North of Whitby. Easy to find on the internet. John was once associated with Rare and Racy himself, and I do recommend giving him a try, even though I do hold him personally accountable for the rather obscure Jazz Music that used to blare out at R & R in the 1970s and 1980s, and I have, in the past, told him as much.
  6. Here's what was there before the Hole In The Road was built

    To the left of this image can be seen, the still gutted and boarded-up, former retail premises of Montague Burtons Limited, tailors, 51-55, High Street, which had been destroyed in the Sheffield Blitz of 12/12/1940. The premises remained unoccupied and in this dilapidated condition for many years, until eventually demolished and replaced with new development, circa 1960. Montague Burtons Limited relocated to alternative premises, at 20-22, Haymarket, where they were to remain for many years. The C&A Modes Limited, department store, first opened on 22/09/1952, as an originally, two-story replacement for their original premises, which had been destroyed in the Sheffield Blitz of 12/12/1940. The remaining four floors were added to the original two-story building in 1954.
  7. Staniforth Works - Hackenthorpe

    I am really sorry to hear about Rosamund, as I spoke to her and corresponded with her some years ago. In fact, she was the only source from which I could obtain a copy of her book, which has you state, is now quite hard to come by. She did have quite an extensive archive, much of which never made it into publication, but I have no real idea as to what became of that. I do know that she did sell off some of the less specific stuff, trade directories, etc., (I bought an 1840s trade directory from her myself), but I would imagine that she either retained the specific stuff, or perhaps donated it to some trust worthy depository. My own family history research revealed that my Great-Great Grandfather, George Dannatt [1824 - 1891], a scythe-grinder moved from Belton, Lincolnshire to Hackenthorpe, and it seems probable though not certain that he would have worked at the Staniforth Works. He and his family variously lived on Occupation Lane and Main Street and most of his grand-children were baptised at Hackenthorpe Church.
  8. Staniforth Works - Hackenthorpe

    I see that the house adjoining the works, on Beighton Road is presently up for sale at ~£400,000. Offered by Blundells. Described as "Grade II listed five bedroom detached residence. Dating back to around 1700, this Georgian built property was extended around 1750. The bays were added around Victorian times. The property for over 200 years was owned by the Staniforth Family, who were local scythe manufacturers. Greenside is the oldest property in Hackenthorpe and is steeped in history and period features. Deceptively spacious throughout, standing in approximately a 1/3 of an acre of cottage style gardens. There is a further walled garden, where the wall is also Grade II listed." Read more at http://www.zoopla.co.uk/for-sale/details/37783046#OIYrrSXFFLhB0zmo.99 There is also an excellent book written about the Staniforth family a few years back - I suppose though that you know about this.
  9. Air Travel in the 1960s

    There used to be a marvellous innovation called the 'air ferry' operated by British United Air Ferries out of Southampton airport. You loaded your car onto the aeroplane, generally, a twin-engine Bristol B170 Freighter Mk 32, by way of a front loading ramp, and off you went. G-AMWE, construction number 13132, at Southampton, in 1965 below. Leased by Silver City Airways from The Bristol Aeroplane Company Limited on 11/06/1953 Purchased by Silver City Airways on 30/08/1957 Transferred to British United Air Ferries Limited on 01/01/1963 Withdrawn from use at Lydd Airport, Ashford, Kent, in December 1965 and broken up in April 1967
  10. Renishaw Ironworks Nr Sheffield

    Just looking through my rather scanty notes on Renishaw Ironworks, I find that I have the details of two of the other locomotives that worked the internal railway network. Renishaw Ironworks No.1, Hudswell Clarke, works no.1691, of 1937, an 0-4-0, outside cylindered saddle-tank Renishaw Ironworks No.3, Hudswell Clarke, works no.1341, of 1918, an 0-4-0, outside cylindered saddle-tank
  11. Dress Code

    I seem to recall that within the companies that I worked for that 'formal' business attire was the accepted norm well into the mid-1980s. 'Smart casual' was permitted on a Friday, but it had to be 'very smart casual' and jeans, trainers, tee-shirts, being tie-less, etc., were still prohibited even then. On warm days, you still had to ask for permission to remove your jacket.
  12. Renishaw Ironworks Nr Sheffield

    Renishaw Ironworks certainly did become part of the British Steel Corporation, as I clearly recall the 'B.S.C. Renishaw' notice board when I used to drive through the village, and closure in 1999, seems about right to me. The internal railway network was connected to the North Midland Railway line by way of an under-track bridge beneath the G.C.R. railway station platforms and a restricted clearance, under road-bridge, the parapets of which still exist, along with its adjoining cutting. It also seems to have connected with the G.C.R. mainline to Staveley. It probably also, at one time connected to the adjoining Chesterfield Canal which ran along the back of the property, and I do remember the public right of way, which passed from the canal path back onto the main, Eckington to Barlborough highway, and which passed through parts of the iron-works. One of the locomotives which formerly worked the internal railway network, Renishaw Ironworks No.6, Hudswell Clarke, works no.1366, of 1919, is now preserved at Tanfield, County Durham. I also recall that there might have once been a colliery, sandwiched between the ironworks and the adjoining G.C.R. railway line, and certainly, until the late 1980's there still existed on that site, a dewatering shaft, with pump-house, probably for the nearby N.C.B. Renishaw Park Colliery. There might still exist, (at least it did until recently), a chute from that site, down onto the canal-side, which was presumably used for loading coal.
  13. Here's what was there before the Hole In The Road was built

    The single story flat roofed building adjoining the Walsh's - Rackham's building used to contain the gent's outfitters Willerbys at the end nearest to Walshs (of which it may have been a franchise) and next-door - Morris's (I think).
  14. Sheffield City Goods Station - what do you know?

    The bridge over the Midland Main Line was finally demolished in July 1975. The attached image, taken by me at that time demonstrates the complexity of its construction and the congested nature of its' site.
  15. Sheffield City Goods Station - what do you know?

    Some more interesting stuff about freight handling in Sheffield in the 1960's contained within the following British Transport Commission film. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_pB7ccAgPE&list=PLOlMfcwKbrLSnWyb-bdYRL8ry7aim4UUP&index=50