Guest Jeremy Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 What's the oldest existing photograph of Sheffield. Permanent photography was invented in 1825, but only started to be widely available in the 1840s. The photos of the flood aftermath in 1864 must be amongst the earliest photos of Sheffield. Picture Sheffield has this photograph of High Street which Martin Olive's book says is from 1862. There's also this photo of Heeley that they say dates from the 1850s. Any more? Jeremy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 There's an 1843-ish photo of one of the Churches, Minister of the Moors Ecclesfield) maybe, it's er, somewhere, earliest one I know of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POPPYCHRISTINA Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 What's the oldest existing photograph of Sheffield. Permanent photography was invented in 1825, but only started to be widely available in the 1840s. The photos of the flood aftermath in 1864 must be amongst the earliest photos of Sheffield. Picture Sheffield has this photograph of High Street which Martin Olive's book says is from 1862. There's also this photo of Heeley that they say dates from the 1850s. Any more? Jeremy Then and now .Just below the Sheaf House Pub-Gleadless Road last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jeremy Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 Then and now .Just below the Sheaf House Pub-Gleadless Road last week. The date stone looks like it might say 1858, which would put an earliest possible date on the Picture Sheffield photo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 The date stone looks like it might say 1858, which would put an earliest possible date on the Picture Sheffield photo. It's colour, could be from 1974 ... or am I reading it wrong ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jeremy Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 It's colour, could be from 1974 ... or am I reading it wrong ? I was referring to the 'then' rather than the 'now' photo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 I was referring to the 'then' rather than the 'now' photo. The 1843, when I can find it, still stands as a possibility then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 I'll dig out what I believe to be an 1843 picture (dagueotypes, do they count ?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jeremy Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 A little off topic, but White's 1849 directory has: W H BROWNE Photographic portrait artist 2 Church Street & 27 Johnson Street; h. Broomhill CHADBURN (Bros.) photographic portrait rooms Johnson Street Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 A little off topic, but White's 1849 directory has: W H BROWNE Photographic portrait artist 2 Church Street & 27 Johnson Street; h. Broomhill CHADBURN (Bros.) photographic portrait rooms Johnson Street Tremendous, love to see any better date, or sample from 1849 or indeed earlier ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jeremy Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 Tremendous, love to see any better date, or sample from 1849 or indeed earlier ... Slaters 1846 directory has: Chadburn Brothers, (, Photographic artists) at 26 Nursery Street Chadburn Brothers, (, photographic gallery proprietors) at Steam Wheel, Johnson Street Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jeremy Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 I found the following in Making scientific instruments in the industrial revolution by A. D. Morrison-Low (2007): The partnership of Chadburn & Wright was formed in 1818 between William Chadburn and David Wright and, as an advertisement from 1825 shows, they manufactured optical goods as well as dealing in 'all kinds of hardware'. William Chadburn, who had begun as an optician in 1816, was by 1828 advertising a greater versatility as a 'brass and iron founder, optician, cutler and general dealer'. In turn the firm became Chadburn Brothers, who were Alfred and Francis Wright Chadburn from 1837, joined by a third brother, Charles Henry, in 1841. Alfred Chadburn appears to have been the member of the firm who was the most concerned with practical optics. Alfred published a pamphlet on spectacles which ran to many editions, and he was also involved in early experiments in photography in Sheffield (one of his early daguerreotypes is reproduced in the Weekly Independent, 18 May 1918). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jeremy Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 According to Martin Olive's book, this is from 1853 (or shortly after): Hayball family, from a Collodian negative by Arthur Hayball, photographed on the backsteps of 50 (later 112) Hanover Street (one of the earliest Sheffield photographs) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 William CHADBURN opticians and manufacturers of nautical instruments, optical glasses, spect 23 Nursery Street White's 1833 CHADBURN (Bros.) opticians & philosophical & nautical instrument makers Albion Works, 26 Nursery Street & Steam Wheel, Johnson Street Pigot's 1841 CHADBURN (Bros.) opticians, mathematical, electric & philisophical instrument manufa 26 Nursery Street White's 1849 Francis Wright CHADBURN Opitician &c. h. 26 Nursery Street White's 1849 Alfred CHADBURN Opitician &c. h. 26 Nursery Street White's 1849 Francis Wright & Alfred CHADBURN Opticians (&c.) House. 26 Nursery Street And Burngreave Road White's 1852 CHADBURN (Bros.) Opticians Albion works, Nursery St., & Nursery Ln. Kelly's 1893 CHADBURN (Brothers Ltd.) manufacturing opticians Albion Works, 30 Nursery Street & 7 & 9 Nursery Lane White's 1919 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveH Posted May 30, 2009 Share Posted May 30, 2009 It's colour, could be from 1974 ... or am I reading it wrong ? Sorry Richard, I don't think the oldest surviving photograph of Sheffield is in MY personal collection lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 Here she is then ... A collotype showing St Mary's Church, Ecclesfield from about 1840. (Shown before the enlargement of the churchyard and the 1842 building of the bier house). Cyril Slinn, from Britain in Old Photographs. Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jeremy Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 A collotype showing St Mary's Church, Ecclesfield from about 1840. (Shown before the enlargement of the churchyard and the 1842 building of the bier house). Cyril Slinn, from Britain in Old Photographs. Impressive! Collotype or calotype? I think it must be a calotype as the information that I can find suggests that collotype wasn't invented until the 1860s. Even as a calotype it is amazingly early—Talbot introduced this process in 1841. Is the photographer known? Jeremy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 Impressive! Collotype or calotype? I think it must be a calotype as the information that I can find suggests that collotype wasn't invented until the 1860s. Even as a calotype it is amazingly early—Talbot introduced this process in 1841. Is the photographer known? Jeremy Collo- Calo- - don't know what either means. Photographer unknown; it was discovered as a backing board for a later photo ! This is currently the one to beat then ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jeremy Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 This is currently the one to beat then ? Assuming that the dating information is correct I think that this can be declared the winner. Jeremy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 Assuming that the dating information is correct I think that this can be declared the winner. Jeremy We need to try to prove the evidence provided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 According to Professor Perrett, the first known photograph of people at work in Britain was taken in Sheffield in 1858. More information here : http://www.mosi.org.uk/about-us/news/searc...-people-at-work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 Another good attempt : Metal Helve Hammer of 1840-42, Top Forge (or Upper Forge), Wortley Ironworks, Wortley showing pallets set for forgimg 10 ton Railway Wagon Axles Photographer : H.G. Baker www.picturesheffield.com y01217 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jeremy Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 Metal Helve Hammer of 1840-42 I saw this one. The description is ambiguous--I took it to mean that the hammer was installed in 1840-42, rather than that being when the photo was taken. No information on the date of the photograph is given in the decade box. Jeremy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 I saw this one. The description is ambiguous--I took it to mean that the hammer was installed in 1840-42, rather than that being when the photo was taken. No information on the date of the photograph is given in the decade box. Jeremy I agree, but, we will leave the photo just as a matter of interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jeremy Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 Other than the above photo (and one with an incorrect caption) I can find no photos on Picture Sheffield that are dated to the 1840s. Here are links to all of the 1850s photos that I have found (most are of people): Hallam & Staveley Cricket Teams The First Primitive Methodist Chapel, Sheaf Street, Heeley Group of workers at Neepsend Steel and Tool Corporation Ltd, Neepsend Lane -- by Mr. D. J. Smithies James Montgomery, photograph -- by Charles Hoole Henry Clifton Sorby Edward Carpenter, aged 13 George Wostenholm in New York, 1856, the year he became Master Cutler Martha, George & Jane Hague Colver's Yard (built 1828), Upwell Street Grimesthorpe -- this looks like a painting, but I think it could be a photograph. Edward Fisher Sanderson, President of Sheffield Literary and Philosophical Society, 1857 Allotments off Hanover Street, looking towards Broomspring Lane, 1855-1860, photographed by Arthur Hayball from his house in Hanover Street Hayball family, from a Collodian negative by Arthur Hayball, photographed on the backsteps of 50 (later 112) Hanover Street (one of the earliest Sheffield photographs) Thomas Hayball 1790-1865, with Grandchild Clara Hayball (Clara Keeling), born 1852 Jeremy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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