Guest Gramps Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 Continuing the series.... Map Porter_1 1. & 2. Fulwood (Mayfield) Corn Mills [on the Mayfield Brook] 3. Whitley Wood Works also known as Whitley Wood Forge and Old Forge Map Porter_2 4. Whitley Wood Rolling Mill or Wire Mill 5. Leather/Nether or Holme Wheel 6. Porter or Shepherd Wheel 7. Ibbotson or Upper Spur Gear Wheel Map Porter_3 8. Nether Spur Gear (Third Endcliffe) Wheel 9. Holme or Second Endcliffe Wheel 10. Endcliffe Wheel Map Porter_4 11. Upper Lescar Wheel 12. Nether Lescar Wheel 13. Sharrow Wheel/Snuff Mill 14. Stalker Wheel Map Porter_5 15. Broomhall Wheel 16. Broomhall Mill 17. Norris Wheel 18. Little Sheffield Moor or Bennett Wheel 19. Hind or Sylvester Wheel 20. Cinderhill Wheel or New Pond Mill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike142sl Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 Amazing to think how many buildings are now on top of old dams from the Lescar down. (Gramps - do you have the maps from Carr Bridge to Fulwood Head Rd? showing that section of the Porter to the source.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gramps Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 Amazing to think how many buildings are now on top of old dams from the Lescar down. (Gramps - do you have the maps from Carr Bridge to Fulwood Head Rd? showing that section of the Porter to the source.) Will this do ? Carr Bridge top right - source just to the west of Clough Plantation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayleaf Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 One of the puzzles about the old Fulwood mills is that there were 2 mills on what is a very small brook, the May. There are stories that a sough was cut from the Porter to feed into one or both of these dams, but so far there are a number of theories about its location but no proof. However, just before the Porter passes under Clough Lane near the junction with Mark Lane there is what appears to be a weir. There are 2 possibilities if it is, one that it was to slow the river before it entered the culvert, the other that it was to keep the water level up to feed the sough. If the latter is right, then the sough entrance is now underneath a huge holly bush! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunsbyowl1867 Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 Continuing the series.... Map Porter_1 1. & 2. Fulwood (Mayfield) Corn Mills [on the Mayfield Brook] 3. Whitley Wood Works also known as Whitley Wood Forge and Old Forge Map Porter_2 4. Whitley Wood Rolling Mill or Wire Mill 5. Leather/Nether or Holme Wheel 6. Porter or Shepherd Wheel 7. Ibbotson or Upper Spur Gear Wheel Map Porter_3 8. Nether Spur Gear (Third Endcliffe) Wheel 9. Holme or Second Endcliffe Wheel 10. Endcliffe Wheel Map Porter_4 11. Upper Lescar Wheel 12. Nether Lescar Wheel 13. Sharrow Wheel/Snuff Mill 14. Stalker Wheel Map Porter_5 15. Broomhall Wheel 16. Broomhall Mill 17. Norris Wheel 18. Little Sheffield Moor or Bennett Wheel 19. Hind or Sylvester Wheel 20. Cinderhill Wheel or New Pond Mill Hi Gramps more facinating stuff - my ggggrandfather was Samuel Andrew and as you will see in the lterature I think he owned the mills on the MAyfield- although if he was a man of means it never made its way to me! :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike142sl Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 Will this do ? Carr Bridge top right - source just to the west of Clough Plantation Excellent, thank you. We have a relay race up the river from just above Carr Bridge to Fulwood Head Rd each summer and this will allow us to work out suitable changeover spots as it identifys each bend. Pretty much the same as is now but curiously it does not show the waterfall. Bayleaf - I suspect the sough story is a myth, the expense of building such a thing would be huge and surely over that bit of land they would have made a culvert instead. It would have been cheaper to build a dam on the Porter surely. Either way, if I remember I'll get the scouts who run that stretch to have a look and see what they can find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gramps Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 Hi Gramps more facinating stuff - my ggggrandfather was Samuel Andrew and as you will see in the lterature I think he owned the mills on the MAyfield- although if he was a man of means it never made its way to me! Here's the 'Andrew' detail from the book.. In 1804 Samuel Smith sold the freehold (with the Woodhouses still named as occupiers) to Samuel Andrew of Broomhall Mill, who in turn mortgaged it to Martha Hargrave.[1] Andrew himself was named as miller in the 1814-15 directory. In the first extant Upper Hallam rate books (1838-9) Andrew's executors were owners and Thomas carter was was the miller, the latter being replaced by George Green by 1844. The exeutors put the mills up for auction in 1847 and they were conveyed to Samuel Price the following year. [2] 1 West Riding Registry of Deeds - ref. EQ 378/9 433/4. 2 Sheffield and Rotherham Independant 6th/13th November 1847. Sheffield Deeds Registry, Town Hall 5682 . How strange - if I type the letter b in parentheses I get this...( It would appear that the first thing Samuel Price did was to put a steam engine in, though it may just have been a back-up power source. Long hot summers were a miller's curse in those days ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gramps Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 One of the puzzles about the old Fulwood mills is that there were 2 mills on what is a very small brook, the May. There are stories that a sough was cut from the Porter to feed into one or both of these dams, but so far there are a number of theories about its location but no proof. However, just before the Porter passes under Clough Lane near the junction with Mark Lane there is what appears to be a weir. There are 2 possibilities if it is, one that it was to slow the river before it entered the culvert, the other that it was to keep the water level up to feed the sough. If the latter is right, then the sough entrance is now underneath a huge holly bush! Comparing the catchment areas for the two on the 1850 map I would say the May Brook ought to be the stronger stream at the confluence above Carr bridge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike142sl Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 Does anyone know when mills 1 to 4 finally closed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayleaf Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 Does anyone know when mills 1 to 4 finally closed? The Corn Mills were empty by 1884 and were never re-occupied. The Council acquired the whole site via the Graves Trust in 1937-8, and the Nether Mill was demolished in 1950. The Old Forge probably ceased as a working forge in 1887. Before 1900 the dam had become a boating lake. After passing through several owners, the site was acquired for the Council by the Graves Trust in 1939. Wire Mill has ceased working by 1875-6. The dam and adjacent property were acquired by the Council in 1897. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike142sl Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 Thanks Peter, I knew I could rely on you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponytail Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 Copied from Sheffield Spectator July 1968. Apologies on the original photocopy missed a few words off the bottom on the first page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartshome Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 An interesting write-up, though P J Bunker obviously hadn't been and done a viewing on what he was writing about. He states that 'BOTH' Fulwood Flour Mills have been 'demolished', NO THEY HAVEN'T! Only the Lower Mill was demolished by the council, after a boy playing in the ruins accidentally hung himself. The Upper Mill used for stabling, and the Mill House, have been occupied by my friend's family since the 1940s, Norman & Bessie Wright with their twin daughters Jane & Pat. (Jane lives there now) Bessie filled in the lower dam as it was of no use anymore, and had the 'Old Wheel' removed as it was corroding and dangerous. In 1982 the property became a Registered Charity the MILL HOUSE ANIMAL SANCTUARY, and the Old Mill building is still used for stabling, with the upper floor being the hay loft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveHB Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/354950872517 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponytail Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 Plan of the proposed alteration of the Course of the Porter, betwixt Smith Wood belonging to the Duke of Norfolk, and the Lands of D. Brammall. 1801. Numerical list of lands taken from the Duke and from D. Brammall, with acreages. https://www.picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;arc02720&pos=69&action=zoom&id=92111 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponytail Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 Fulwood Mills etc belonging to George Smith, held by William Woodhouse, Jr. 1802. https://www.picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;arc03970&pos=54&action=zoom&id=102531 Refers to Butter Briggs, allotment, Mill Field, Samuel Shore, Upper Mill, Lower Mill, Cath. Hibberd's land, Geo. Patten, Thos. Smith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponytail Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 Plan of Broomhall Mill with the ground adjoining belonging to the representatives of Samuel Andrews deceased, [1828] https://www.picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;arc04011&pos=61&action=zoom&id=103145 1. Two dwelling houses and two gardens. 2. Corn mill with dressing machine, drying kiln, shelling mill, coke house and 5 pair stones, also small house, stable for 4 horses, cowhouse for 6 cows, barn and loft, cart sheds with corn chamber over it, etc., and yard. 3. Long plantation and island. 4. garden. 5. Part of the Water Close, part of the Briery Holme. 7. Lower goight adjoining plantation. 8. Dam and upper goight. 9. Shaw Close now in gardens with the footway. 10. Briery Holme divided into gardens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponytail Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 Ecclesall Road. Norris Wheel on the Porter, for Dr Younge, [1810] https://www.picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;arc03919&pos=41&action=zoom&id=101033 Shows Porter Brook, wear [weir], dam and tail goight, Norris Wheel, Upper Garden, Wheel House and ground adjoining, Lower Garden, part of Turner Heys Close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponytail Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 Bennett Wheel. A plan of the Cutler's Wheel House on Little Sheffield Moor held of the Earl of Surrey by James Bennett. 1784. https://www.picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;arc03503&pos=82&action=zoom&id=91098 Bennett's Wheel and Dam, the watering place and all the courses of the River Porter shown; some measurements. Watering Place. (Ellin Street, St Mary's Road). Weighing machine house and some ground adjoining Bennet’s Dam belonging to George Bennet, [1807] https://www.picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;arc03640&pos=33&action=zoom&id=99191 Bennett's Wheel and the land adjoining as divided into lots for sale, The Moor, [1819] https://www.picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;arc04155&pos=70&action=zoom&id=104118 The plan includes a building scheme over the part of the dam adjoining South Street, but it was not proceeded with. Shows South Street, Hereford Street and Porter Lane. Also, [River Porter] and Bennett's Wheel. Bennett's Wheel and premises adjoining agreed to be sold to Thomas Ellin. 1831. https://www.picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;arc04156&pos=71&action=zoom&id=104119 Marked: South Street, Hereford Street, Porter Street, Sylvester Street, bridge, River porter, wear [weir], goight, tail goight, Bennets [Bennett's ] Wheel, dam, Back Lane, bye wash, and garden. Tenants / owners: Samuel Newbould, John Watsen [Watson], Peter Jerrison, and late George Hodgson. Note: the Field Book has Sylvester Wheel, but this is palpably an error. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponytail Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 Lescar Wheel: The addition proposed to be made to R. Hall's Old Dam and The New Dam and Wheel proposed to be made. 1749 https://www.picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;arc02648&pos=81&action=zoom&id=91061 The Lescar Wheels; ownership distinguished showing that the Duke had rights only over the river and its banks; measurements; yellow outlines and borders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponytail Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 A plan of two Closes held under the Duke of Norfolk by Benjamin Roebuck, with Silvester Wheel [Sylvester Wheel] and the adjoining Damms (sic) and Gardens in John Wilson's possession, [c. 1760-1770] https://www.picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;arc03285&pos=87&action=zoom&id=98446 Upper and Lower Dams, Wheel and Weirs clearly shown; includes two closes to the north of the dams; numerical list with tenants, descriptions and acreages; coloured, on parchment. Sylvester Wheel and the closes to the south (these closes adjoin those in the section above; the wheel was on the Porter Brook near modern Sylvester Street). (Alsop Lane, Earl Lane, Earl Street, Eyre Street, Jessop Lane, Jessop Street, Sylvester Street) Silvester Wheel with the Dams and Appurtenances held of the Earl of Surrey by John Wilson. 1784. https://www.picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;arc03286&pos=88&action=zoom&id=98447 Wheel, Dams and Gardens clearly shown; measurements of gardens Sylvester Wheel and the closes to the south (these closes adjoin those in the section above; the wheel was on the Porter Brook near modern Sylvester Street). A plan of the Stand Ley Closes, etc. 1790. https://www.picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;arc03414&pos=92&action=zoom&id=98650 The closes adjoining those shown in arc03415 with an outline of the Sylvester Wheel and Dams; Tenants and acreages given. (St. Mary's Road, Charlotte Road, Clough Road, Clough House Lane, Hereford Street, Sylvester Street, Mary Street, Midland Lane, Margaret Street, Shoreham Street) [Sylvester Wheel and the closes to the south (these closes adjoin those in the section above; the wheel was on the Porter Brook near modern Sylvester Street] Plan of the Duke of Norfolk's land in Alsop Fields and at Sylvester Wheel divided into lots for sale. 1804. https://www.picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;arc04029&pos=64&action=zoom&id=103259 The plan shows the plots bought and the later building schemes. Shows Hereford Street, Cumberland Street, Jessop Street, Silvester Street [Sylvester Street], Arundel Street, Furnival Street, Porter Lane, Eyre Street, Duke Street, [Porter Brook], new cut, lsquo;old course of the river rsquo;, bridge, wear [weir]. Refers to Thomas Holy, George Rhodes, Joshua Holdsworth, John Watson, James Bean, Isaac Smith, Robert Mills, William Tyson, Ann Fox, Joseph Waterhouse, Michael Riley, Sarah [Broomhouse?], Edward Maden / Madin, Samuel Kirkby, John Gillott, Malin Gillot, William Howson, Dr. Firth, [?R. Cindell], E. W. Drury, John Hornden, M.D., Thomas Warburton, Joseph Herrings, George Prior, William Littlewood, Joseph Smith. Plan of certain freehold land near Sylvester Wheel, the property of Thomas Holy. 1831. https://www.picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;arc04273&pos=75&action=zoom&id=105747 Marked: Sylvester Street, Sylvester Wheel, River Porter, upper dam, lower dam, land sold to Earl Fitzwilliam, Ellin Lane, tail goight, Arundel Street, Arundel Lane, Jessop Street, Eyre Lane, and Earl Street. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponytail Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 A map of Cinderhill Wheel Old Dam and the additions intended to be made to it. 1752. https://www.picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;arc03406&pos=91&action=zoom&id=98649 The old and new dams clearly shown, with a perspective drawing of the mill house. Measurements given on the map and there is an explanation of additions with acreages. Content of the new dam also given; house and border coloured. Pond Corn Mill (on the Porter) and some of the Stand Ley Closes (also known as the Cinder Hill Wheel, this Mill was west of modern Leadmill Road near Shoreham Street; the Stand Ley Closes lay to the south and west of the mill and dam). Brittain Street, St Mary's Road, Shoreham Street, Pond Corn Mill, Mary Street, Pond Street (south end). A map of the Stand Leys and some other contiguous Lands with the Dam and Mill (formerly called Cinder Hill Wheel) 1764. https://www.picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;arc03415&pos=93&action=zoom&id=98651 arc03415 The Wheel and Dam clearly shown; shuttle marked; colours distinguish tenancies; numerical list with tenants, field names and descriptions and acreages; on parchment. Pond Corn Mill (on the Porter) and some of the Stand Ley Closes (also known as the Cinder Hill Wheel, this Mill was west of modern Leadmill Road near Shoreham Street; the Stand Ley Closes lay to the south and west of the mill and dam). Clough House Lane, with the site of Clough House shown. Lenton Street, Duchess Road, Pond Corn Mill, Mary Street, Margaret Street, Matilda Street, Pond Street (south end), St. Mary's Road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponytail Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 Map of Owlerbottoms in Stephen Hawksworth's Farm. 1746. https://www.picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;arc02719&pos=80&action=zoom&id=89475 Woodland alongside the Porter Brook, west of Smith Wood; acreage of the whole; boundary trees and border coloured. (Oakbrook Road) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponytail Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 Plan of proposed extension of Eyre Street to Porter Street and also the proposed widening of Porter Bridge. 1845. https://www.picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;arc06810&pos=76&action=zoom&id=106241 Also shown are Brammall Lane [Bramall Lane], Hereford Street, Sylvester Street, Cumberland Street, and the Porter Brook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponytail Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 Plan of Tom Field Farm, and other fields between Clarkehouse Road and the Porter, c. 1810. https://www.picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;arc02031&pos=25&action=zoom&id=74946 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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