Sheffield History Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 THE FULL MONTY FILM LOCATIONS opening scene - steelworks? band come round corner @ steelworks Canal Scene Bacon Lane Bridge and Canal Bacon Lane Attercliffe Canal Scene Bacon Lane Bridge and Canal Bacon Lane Attercliffe Steps This is a scene when the lads are walking down to the club towards the start of the film. The steps are located between Horndean Road and Idsworth Road (location of the club). Club Exterior Idsworth Road The Road To The Club Idsworth Road House opposite club Idsworth Road Club Exterior Regency House Idsworth Road Firth Park Road club toilets Shiregreen Working Men's Club 136 Shiregreen Lane Shiregreen club shot Shiregreen Working Men's Club 136 Shiregreen Lane Shiregreen another shot of the club Shiregreen Working Men's Club 136 Shiregreen Lane Shiregreen club toilets again Shiregreen Working Men's Club 136 Shiregreen Lane Shiregreen club shot again Shiregreen Working Men's Club 136 Shiregreen Lane Shiregreen sheffield city centre shot walk up to school Langsett School Burton Street Hillsborough walk up to school Langsett School Burton Street Hillsborough schoolyard Langsett School Burton Street Hillsborough job centre Exterior Shot - West Street Sheffield City Centre job club nice house Jogging Scene Mount Road Parkwood Springs Jogging Scene Mount Road Parkwood Springs Jogging Scene Mount Road Parkwood Springs tinsley towers shot sat on bank overlooking sheffield dancing in front of car headlights ! Woodcock Travel - The Wicker Ye Olde Coach House - The Wicker langsett road - garage (now gone) langsett road garage ballroom dancing scene another shot of sheffield Geralds House 34 Whirlow Park Road Whirlow Geralds House 34 Whirlow Park Road Whirlow walking down the road.. Geralds House 34 Whirlow Park Road Whirlow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest grandad Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 Also - the scene outside the school was just up from David Fords on Penistone Road - and the scene where Gerald buys the papers and dumps them in the bin is at the Newsagents on the top of Granville Road Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheffield History Posted February 22, 2007 Author Share Posted February 22, 2007 MORE FILM LOCATION SHOTS office shot back at the job club Ruskin Park Playground Daniel Hill Street Blake Street walking up towards Blake Pub The Blake Pub Blake Street/Daniel Hill Street Ruskin Park Playground Daniel Hill Street Ruskin Park Playground Daniel Hill Street city view city view 2 factory factory les battersby auditions in the factory another audition audtion dance night shot of cooling towers meadowhall and viaduct in front Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rachy Posted February 22, 2007 Share Posted February 22, 2007 Also - the scene outside the school was just up from David Fords on Penistone Road - and the scene where Gerald buys the papers and dumps them in the bin is at the Newsagents on the top of Granville Road My paper shop The scene where they look out over Sheffield was done on Skye Edge. Think it was this film anyway, I've only seen it once, years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheffield History Posted February 27, 2007 Author Share Posted February 27, 2007 Supermarket Scene ASDA Supermarket Orgreave Way Sheffield Supermarket Scene ASDA Supermarket Orgreave Way Sheffield Supermarket Scene ASDA Supermarket Orgreave Way Sheffield street shot newsagent - street shot takeaway - street shot factory house again where is this ? (note the pub on the left) factory eversure textiles shop/post office shop/post office counter post office worker getting fit with the city behind getting fit on the grass talking on skye edge football on the hill football on the hill noticeboard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheffield History Posted March 3, 2007 Author Share Posted March 3, 2007 Daffodil Road - Sheffield 5 (thanks to danblakemore for that one) flyposting the club HELP NEEDED - WHERE IS THIS ? job centre - filmed @ burton street school (capel hall) great shot of the cooling towers anyone know where this is ? bus stop - outside school Carter Knowle Junior School bus stop - outside school Carter Knowle Junior School anyone know where this is ? police station Peveril Road Peveril Road 34 Whirlow Park Road Whirlow Gaz's Flat Regents Court Hillsborough Outside school Langsett School Burton Street Hillsborough looking up burton street Langsett School Burton Street Hillsborough Graveyard Scene Crookes Cemetery Crookes jogging Burger Bar Granville Road newsagents Granville Road stocksbridge steels brass band Barrack Lane - Walking Uphill Infirmary Road/Barrack Lane shiregreen wmc crowd Shiregreen Working Men's Club 136 Shiregreen Lane Shiregreen shiregreen wmc crowd Shiregreen Working Men's Club 136 Shiregreen Lane Shiregreen on stage at shiregreen wmc Shiregreen Working Men's Club 136 Shiregreen Lane Shiregreen gratuitous stripper shot Shiregreen Working Men's Club 136 Shiregreen Lane Shiregreen THE MONEY SHOT !! Shiregreen Working Men's Club 136 Shiregreen Lane Shiregreen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheffield History Posted March 3, 2007 Author Share Posted March 3, 2007 THE FULL MONTY Where that film title came from The release of the film with that title in 1997 provoked requests to explain what it means and where the phrase came from. The former is easy to answer: it just means “the whole thing; everything; the whole lot”. I’d like to oblige regarding the second question, but in the present state of research it’s difficult to say anything much more definitive than “origin unknown”. It became common in Britain from the early nineties onwards, but has only a sparse recorded history before then. The first reference I’ve come across, dated 1986, is in a book entitled Street Talk, the Language of Coronation Street (Coronation Street being a long-running British soap based on life in a northern town). The next I have is from the Guardian of September 1989: “What we’re after is a live skeleton — the full monty,” said the stage manager. One suggestion put forward in a newspaper article is that it was invented in the early eighties by Ben Elton, an alternative comedian, possibly after the model of the whole shebang, which has long been known in Britain, though it originated in the US. But this seems rather unlikely, because my erratic memory is insistent that the phrase was around before the eighties; this impression is backed up by several correspondents who say they heard it as far back as the 1950s. Alas, nobody can provide any documentary evidence for these dates. It seems that there are almost as many explanations as there are writers doing the explaining. A colleague in the dictionaries department at the Oxford University Press, who has had the thankless job of writing the entry for this expression, claims to have found sixteen different stories. A few of the more common ones are: * a corruption of “the full amount”; * a reference to bales full of wool imported from Montevideo; * from a TV commercial for Del Monte fruit juice, in which one of the characters insisted on the full Del Monte; * gamblers’ jargon meaning the kitty or pot, deriving from the old US card game called monte; * the casino at Monte Carlo, in which the full monty would equate with breaking the bank; * Field Marshal Montgomery on parade with all his medals; * from Field Marshal Montgomery’s liking for a good breakfast in the morning; * being supplied by the British tailors Montague Burton with a three-piece suit; or * being provided with a complete wedding outfit from the same firm. The first two of these seem extremely unlikely, and the third is almost certainly a recent play on words by an advertising copywriter. The fourth, the gambling origin, is suggested by Tony Thorne in his Dictionary of Contemporary Slang. He also reminds us that monte was once a common Australian and New Zealand term in horse-racing for a good tip or certain bet. Monte is certainly long-attested in both of these senses, but there’s no firm evidence that the full monty has been derived from it, or when it first appeared, or how it got from America or the antipodes into British usage. Field Marshal Montgomery, General Montgomery as he was during the Second World War, certainly had the nickname Monty (there was a film, you may recall, with the title I Was Monty’s Double, about a man who impersonated him). The stories about Montgomery mostly refer to his liking for a good breakfast, even in the desert during the North Africa campaign. It is said that the phrase was taken up after the War, presumably by ex-servicemen, as a name for the traditional English breakfast of bacon, eggs, fried bread, tomato, mushrooms, toast, and cup of tea. However, this is just as likely to be a rationalisation of an existing expression, but attached to a well-known public figure in the way such things often are. However, I have been told that it was in common use in transport cafés in the 1950s, so there may be something in it. The Montague Burton story appears to be the most probable. There’s some slight support for it in that several early citations capitalise monty (though this could, of course, apply equally well to General Montgomery). The expression seems to have been in use longer in the north of England, where the firm originated: Mr Burton’s first shop was opened in Chesterfield, Derbyshire, in 1903, and by 1913 he had his headquarters in Sheffield. (This, of course, fits with the Sheffield setting of the film.) The firm became huge, with more than 500 shops by 1929, and it made a quarter of British uniforms in the Second World War and a third of the demobilisation suits. Here’s what may be a relevant extract, linking the phrase to tailoring, from John le Carré’s The Tailor of Panama, published in 1996 (for which I’m indebted to Nick Skelton): “What was it we were thinking of having made exactly?” “Me? Oh, usual sort of thing. Start with a couple o’ lounge suits, see how they go. After that it’s the full Monty.” “The full Monty,” Pendel repeated in awe, as memories of Uncle Benny nearly drowned him. “It must be twenty years since I heard that expression, Mr Osnard. Bless my soul. The full Monty. My goodness me.” So far as I’ve been able to discover, Montague Burton never ran a dress hire business, so it is more likely that if the expression originated with them, it did so in relation to the range of suits they sold. A person who knew the business from before the Second World War told me that the firm used to offer a two piece suit as the basic option, but that for a small extra amount you could also have a waistcoat and a spare pair of trousers. Paying the extra meant that you went for the full Monty. My own preference is for the Montague Burton origin. But that’s just an educated guess, because we don’t have enough evidence. The jury is still out on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheffield History Posted March 3, 2007 Author Share Posted March 3, 2007 PLOT SUMMARY Gary "Gaz" Schofield (Robert Carlyle) and Dave (Mark Addy) are desperate to make some money, going so far as to try stealing steel beams from the abandoned factory they used to work at. When Gaz finds out that his ex-wife wants full custody of his young son, Nathan, because he's 700 quid in arrears, Gaz has the idea of stripping to make money. He originally gets the idea from seeing Dave's wife Jean with some friends at a male strip-club, reasoning that if the Chippendales dancers can do it, so can he. Slowly, he assembles a group of similarly desperate men, including his former foreman, Gerald Arthur Cooper (Tom Wilkinson), at the factory he used to work at. In a sequence of darkly comic scenes, various former co-workers of Gaz and Dave are made to perform a strip-tease for them as their audition. One of the auditioners is invited to stay after he flunks; he says that he still has his children in the car, and "this is no place for kids". The auditioner then glances over at Nathan, who was recruited by his father to work their stereo, before leaving. Other auditioners are hired for their penis size (both mythical, in the case of 'Horse', and real, in the case of Guy). As the men try practicing, doubts continue to creep in about whether this is the best way to make some money, due to their individual insecurities over their appearances (Dave is overweight, for example). When the men are approached on the street by women who have heard of their show, Gaz declares that their show will be better than the Chippendales dancers because they'll go "the Full Monty" - strip all the way - hence the film's title. Dave quits less than a week before the show, deprecating himself as a "fat poopydoo" whom no one would want to see in the nude. While practising, the rest of the men get literally caught with their pants down in the abandoned factory they use for their practice, causing one of the more unconventional chase scenes in modern film, involving most of the main characters running from their pursuers wearing orange leather thongs. Two of the strippers, Guy and Lomper successfully escape, and fall into a homoerotic embrace. The police show the men the surveillance tapes from the factory and soon the secret is out. All seems lost, with the entire city of Sheffield knowing who the members of Hot Metal are and the cast ready to quit, until the owner of the pub the men want to perform in informs Gaz that he already sold 200 tickets for their show. With not much left to lose, and a sold-out show, the men decide to go for it for one night. Dave finds his confidence and joins the rest of the group, stripping to Tom Jones' version of You Can Leave Your Hat On (their hats being the final item removed). LIST OF UNCONFIRMED LOCATIONS 14 Mount Road, Parkwood Springs - Gaz and Dave are jogging up the hill The bus stop outside Carter Knowle Junior School - Gerald and Gary talking Gerald's House 'Full Monty' House 34 Whirlow Park Road Whirlow 'Full Monty' Park Blake Street Sheffield (over the road from the Blake Pub) Supermarket Scene ASDA Supermarket Orgreave Way Sheffield The Canal Scene Bacon Lane Bridge and Canal Bacon Lane Attercliffe Graveyard Scene Crookes Cemetery Crookes Mandys Factory Eversure Textiles Sheffield Langsett Music Centre Pickering Road Sheffield Keep Fit sequence Manor Oaks Road Sheffield Dave's House Meadowbank Road Sheffield Burger Bar Pepes Cambridge Street Sheffield Lompers House Peveril Road Sheffield Ruskin Park Sheffield Sanderson Special Steels Newhall Road Sheffield Boxing Centre 73 Burton Street Hillfoot Ski Village Sheffield Whirlow Park Road Sheffield Released Cinema: 1997 VHS: 02 March 1998 DVD: 12 June 2000 The Full Monty - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119164/ BUY THE DVD - http://www.play.com/DVD/DVD/4-/852379/The_...on/Product.html Do you know the exact locations where the film was shot ? If so - please let us know - post below so we can add to the list and get some pictures of what the area looks like today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheffield History Posted March 3, 2007 Author Share Posted March 3, 2007 The steps This is a scene when the lads are walking down to the club towards the start of the film. The steps are located between Horndean Road and Idsworth Road (location of the club). http://www.sheffieldhistory.co.uk/forums/uploads/monthly_03_2007/post-1-1172951130.jpghttp://www.sheffieldhistory.co.uk/forums/uploads/monthly_03_2007/post-1-1172951137.jpg The Road To The Club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheffield History Posted March 3, 2007 Author Share Posted March 3, 2007 The Club Also located on Idsworth Road - however only the exterior shots were done here. The interior shots including the final strip scene were done at Shiregreen Working Mans Club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickjj Posted March 3, 2007 Share Posted March 3, 2007 The Regency on Idsworth Road where the club exteriors were shot used to be "The Roxy" cinema. It also had a ballroom and dance school underneath. My parents went to dances there when I was a nipper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rachy Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 getting fit with the city behind We think that is in Norfolk Park getting fit on the grass talking on skye edge football on the hill football on the hill They are all on Skye Edge, Near the Hyde Park Terrace and Walk/Manor Oakes Gardens. As you go up Manor Oakes Road and round the bend at the top there is a side road which is actually closed off with bollards, they were all up there. noticeboard That is at winkobank according to Dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheffield History Posted March 4, 2007 Author Share Posted March 4, 2007 Top stuff - thanks Rachy (and dad !) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest howeyz Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 The factory where they get arrested is just under the bridge from Don Valley stadium Attercliffe,can't remember the name of the road.It's on the right in the grounds of Mayflower Technology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheffield History Posted March 4, 2007 Author Share Posted March 4, 2007 EXCELLENT Many thanks - I think I know where you mean Top information Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickjj Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 One thing I could never understand with the movie has to do with the grand finale. Why oh why was Tom Jones singing "You Can Keep Your Hat On" when the song itself was made famous by one of Sheffields own Joe Cocker ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheffield History Posted March 7, 2007 Author Share Posted March 7, 2007 The 'MONTY MANIA' site went live this weekend All the film locations and more are on the site now - check it out by clicking the link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheffield History Posted March 8, 2007 Author Share Posted March 8, 2007 Just a quick one to say a huge thanks to Julie for getting in touch with us via the Monty Mania website ! She's a superstar in her post office - she still works there - and hopefully we can persuade her to be interviewed for the website ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest julie Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 The steps This is a scene when the lads are walking down to the club towards the start of the film. The steps are located between Horndean Road and Idsworth Road (location of the club). http://www.sheffieldhistory.co.uk/forums/uploads/monthly_03_2007/post-1-1172951130.jpghttp://www.sheffieldhistory.co.uk/forums/uploads/monthly_03_2007/post-1-1172951137.jpg The Road To The Club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docmel Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 SCENE: STEELWORKS BRASS BAND WALKING Unless I am very very much mistaken that scene was shot where I walked (with many others) every day of my life for a few years during the 1970's. It is/was the yard at Sanderson Kaysers on Newhall Road, Attercliffe I have seen the movie a few times and each time I am more convinced, unfotunatly I have lost touch with all my old work colleagues, so have no way of confirming it - but I am really sure thats where it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheffield History Posted March 14, 2007 Author Share Posted March 14, 2007 I think that's roughly where I went the other day to get exterior shot of the policeman walking past the factory ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrinderBloke Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 The shot of the telephone box with a weird domed building is taken from the junction of Heeley Bank Road / Olive Grove Road... Very roughly as I have not lived in Sheffield for 20 years and memory isn't as good as it was. That is the council road grid storage / loading place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheffield History Posted March 14, 2007 Author Share Posted March 14, 2007 Bang on - this has been confirmed by others too I can't wait to get all the shots done and on the montymania website - it's been a huge project (I only thought it would take a few hours) and I can't wait to see it all done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zoro Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 Hi new to this but i understand ...being a local ....that the nude over the garden wall shots were actualy done in back gardens of Ford street ..with camra sited on Dobbin hill looking down over row of back gardens ...then swiches to Peveril Road as they climb in window as it had staircase / decor they wanted ...i belief ..(to be confirmed ) that the back gardens were not suitable at Peveril Road...but i stand to be corrected . Also just a bit of info ... Burton Street Old school was used for film ...they thought they were going to get a paint job done for them ...but to cut costs ....the main Hall was painted to different colours to shoot 2 parts of film .1/2 the hall for the dancing scean ...the other for the heart to heart in classroom ...i believe ..i ...it was literaly split in half and camra would be in middle of hall just showing which bit they wanted ... actualy went to a meeting there and was told ...very bizar Zoro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheffield History Posted March 15, 2007 Author Share Posted March 15, 2007 Very true about Burton Street and it's only recently that they repainted the room (damn - should have got there earlier with my camera !) into one colour Interesting about the bit about the lads jumping over the hedges and climbing into the house - we'd not known that one.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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