Guest OLD No.12 Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 Duncan Gilmour was born in Scotland on the 21st of October 1816. At the age of 16 he moved to Ireland and learnt the trade of wines and spirits. In 1854 he moved to Sheffield where he set up buisness as Duncan & Gilmour and Co. wine & spirit merchants at 56-58 Queen Street which was known as the Murrays Arms. In 1860 he bought premises in Dixon Lane and started brewing in 1884. In 1891 it was registered as a limited company. In 1883 Duncan Gilmour retired and passed the company to one of his son's who was also named Duncan Gilmour. On the 11th of January 1889 he died at Sandygate and was buried at christ church, Fulwood in Sheffield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 Great stuff. How many Gilmour Pubs can we identify ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hjdary Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 On London Road down near Albert road there is a bit of a gable end that still has a 'sign' for Gilmours on it I think......is it the same Gilmour? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveHB Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 On London Road down near Albert road there is a bit of a gable end that still has a 'sign' for Gilmours on it I think......is it the same Gilmour? That would be the White Lion Hotel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest OLD No.12 Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 i believe they was 15 pubs located around sheffield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveHB Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 i believe they was 15 pubs located around sheffield. Here are some of them, can anyone add the rest? Dog & Partridge, 56 Trippet Lane. Hillsborough Hotel, 54 Langsett Road. New Barrack Tavern, Penistone Road. Norfolk Arms*, Carlisle Street East. North Pole*, Sussex Street. Old Crown, 137 London Road. Red Deer, Pitt Street. *Riverside Court Hotel (Brown Cow/Riverside, Mowbray Street) Nursery Street? Rutland Arms, 86 Brown Street. The Pheasant, (Stumble Inn) 436 Attercliffe Common. The Bull & Mouth (Tap & Barrel), Waingate. White Lion, 615 London Road. Rivelin Hotel, Tofts Lane. ps. I have *'Riverside Court Hotel' Nursery Street, before it became the 'Brown Cow' ... needs checking out please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POPPYCHRISTINA Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 Here are some of them, can anyone add the rest? Dog & Partridge, 56 Trippet Lane. Hillsborough Hotel, 54 Langsett Road. New Barrack Tavern, Penistone Road. Norfolk Arms*, Carlisle Street East. North Pole*, Sussex Street. Old Crown, 137 London Road. Red Deer, Pitt Street. *Riverside Court Hotel (Brown Cow/Riverside, Mowbray Street) Nursery Street? Rutland Arms, 86 Brown Street. The Pheasant, (Stumble Inn) 436 Attercliffe Common. The Bull & Mouth (Tap & Barrel), Waingate. White Lion, 615 London Road. Rivelin Hotel, Tofts Lane. ps. I have *'Riverside Court Hotel' Nursery Street, before it became the 'Brown Cow' ... needs checking out please Steve, You are getting two pubs mixed up here. The Riverside Court Hotel was the Lion Hotel,2 Nursery St. The Riverside was The Brown Cow Mowbray St. Also ,if you look at my photo of The Lodge Inn on Spital Hill you can just make out the Duncan Gilmour sign.All three are in the members gallery. George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveHB Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 Steve, You are getting two pubs mixed up here. The Riverside Court Hotel was the Lion Hotel,2 Nursery St. The Riverside was The Brown Cow Mowbray St. Also ,if you look at my photo of The Lodge Inn on Spital Hill you can just make out the Duncan Gilmour sign.All three are in the members gallery. George Thank you for putting the facts right POPPYCHRISTINA, think my knowledge of pubs compares to Richards photo editing capabilities And I was just thinking ... I worked across from the Lion Hotel when It's name changed So thanks to POPPYCHRISTINA we now have 14 ... Dog & Partridge, 56 Trippet Lane. Hillsborough Hotel, 54 Langsett Road. New Barrack Tavern, Penistone Road. Norfolk Arms*, Carlisle Street East. North Pole*, Sussex Street. Old Crown, 137 London Road. Red Deer, Pitt Street. Lion Hotel, (Riverside Court Hotel) 2 Nursery Street. The Lodge Inn, Spital Hill. Rutland Arms, 86 Brown Street. The Pheasant, (Stumble Inn) 436 Attercliffe Common. The Bull & Mouth (Tap & Barrel), Waingate. White Lion, 615 London Road. Rivelin Hotel, Tofts Lane. Can anyone add anymore ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest OLD No.12 Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 would these help the list tap & barrel 42 waingate, sheffield and the broughton inn 343 attercliffe common Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveHB Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 would these help the list tap & barrel 42 waingate, sheffield and the broughton inn 343 attercliffe common They most certainly will! I will add the Broughton Inn to the list, but we already seem to have 'Tap & Barrel' Waingate under its former name 'Bull & Mouth' Thank you, OLD No.12 and thanks for starting this Topic. Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveHB Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 Gilmour Pubs in the Sheffield area. Broughton Inn, 343 Attercliffe Common . Dog & Partridge, 56 Trippet Lane. Hillsborough Hotel, 54 Langsett Road. New Barrack Tavern, Penistone Road. Norfolk Arms*, Carlisle Street East. North Pole*, Sussex Street. Old Crown, 137 London Road. Red Deer, Pitt Street. Lion Hotel, (Riverside Court Hotel) 2 Nursery Street. The Lodge Inn, Spital Hill. Rutland Arms, 86 Brown Street. The Pheasant, (Stumble Inn) 436 Attercliffe Common. The Bull & Mouth (Tap & Barrel), Waingate. White Lion, 615 London Road. Woodseats Hotel, (The Woodseats) 743 Chesterfield Road. Rivelin Hotel, Tofts Lane. Anymore out there ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POPPYCHRISTINA Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 Gilmour Pubs in the Sheffield area. Broughton Inn, 343 Attercliffe Common . Dog & Partridge, 56 Trippet Lane. Hillsborough Hotel, 54 Langsett Road. New Barrack Tavern, Penistone Road. Norfolk Arms*, Carlisle Street East. North Pole*, Sussex Street. Old Crown, 137 London Road. Red Deer, Pitt Street. Lion Hotel, (Riverside Court Hotel) 2 Nursery Street. The Lodge Inn, Spital Hill. Rutland Arms, 86 Brown Street. The Pheasant, (Stumble Inn) 436 Attercliffe Common. The Bull & Mouth (Tap & Barrel), Waingate. White Lion, 615 London Road. Rivelin Hotel, Tofts Lane. I was sat outside The Dog and Partridge on Trippet Lane last night, quaffing a Vimto,when someone happened to see that the green paint was peeling off and that yellow tiles were hidden beneath the paint per The Ship Inn Shalesmoor.Wouldnt the pub look a million times better with its original livery on view? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POPPYCHRISTINA Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 I was sat outside The Dog and Partridge on Trippet Lane last night, quaffing a Vimto,when someone happened to see that the green paint was peeling off and that yellow tiles were hidden beneath the paint per The Ship Inn Shalesmoor.Wouldnt the pub look a million times better with its original livery on view? End view of Riverside Court Hotel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceegee Posted September 1, 2008 Share Posted September 1, 2008 In March this year, I went to the Churchyard In Fulwood in order to locate the grave of Robert Colver (one part of Jonas & Colver, the Sheffield Steel firm). More or less adjacent to the Colver family grave is that of Duncan Gilmour and his family. If anyone is interested a descendent of Duncan Gilmour, Mark Bone, has posted some detailed information about the family http://www.tamarvalley.org/bone/nos/11557738.htm is for the Sheffield branch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveHB Posted September 1, 2008 Share Posted September 1, 2008 In March this year, I went to the Churchyard In Fulwood in order to locate the grave of Robert Colver (one part of Jonas & Colver, the Sheffield Steel firm). More or less adjacent to the Colver family grave is that of Duncan Gilmour and his family. If anyone is interested a descendent of Duncan Gilmour, Mark Bone, has posted some detailed information about the family http://www.tamarvalley.org/bone/nos/11557738.htm is for the Sheffield branch Well found ceegee, you're addition makes this topic even more interesting. Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveHB Posted September 1, 2008 Share Posted September 1, 2008 Found another one what was once the 'Woodseats Hotel' 743 Chesterfield Road (now The Woodseats) I will add to our list of finds above, (see post 11) sooner than keep repeating it . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Falls Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 Bit better Ref: this picture but nothing to do with the tram. On the gable end of one of the buildings on the left - part way up the Moor - is an inclined sign. The top word on the sign would be "Gilmours" and the middle word would be "Windsor". As for the bottom word(s), this would be "Stouts" although its possible something like "Beers &" preceded it. Regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gramps Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 Would that be Duncan Gilmours Windsor Ales and Oatmeal Stout (made with the finest Scotch oats) ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Falls Posted April 11, 2009 Share Posted April 11, 2009 Would that be Duncan Gilmours Windsor Ales and Oatmeal Stout (made with the finest Scotch oats) ? Could be. I never knew about the Oatmeal Stout. I knew a bit more about Rawson's, who were taken over by Gilmour's sometime in the 1940's. I can't remember when Gilmour's were taken over by Tetley's. 1954-55 perhaps. Regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gramps Posted April 11, 2009 Share Posted April 11, 2009 Could be. I never knew about the Oatmeal Stout. I knew a bit more about Rawson's, who were taken over by Gilmour's sometime in the 1940's. I can't remember when Gilmour's were taken over by Tetley's. 1954-55 perhaps. Regards I remember the Oatmeal Stout from when I ran errands for the old lady across the road. Two bottles of this stuff was usually on the list and I was always puzzled that they could make booze from what in our house we used to make porridge. Rawsons were effectively finished when the Luftwaffe flattened their Pond street brewery, but the council had already been after the site for the new Technical College. The Germans did the council a favour that night and Duncan Gilmours bought up all their trade outlets. It was 1964 that Tetley's gobbled up Gilmours....according to my source, - at least that was when the company was formally wound up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunsbyowl1867 Posted April 11, 2009 Share Posted April 11, 2009 I remember the Oatmeal Stout from when I ran errands for the old lady across the road. Two bottles of this stuff was usually on the list and I was always puzzled that they could make booze from what in our house we used to make porridge. Rawsons were effectively finished when the Luftwaffe flattened their Pond street brewery, but the council had already been after the site for the new Technical College. The Germans did the council a favour that night and Duncan Gilmours bought up all their trade outlets. It was 1964 that Tetley's gobbled up Gilmours....according to my source, - at least that was when the company was formally wound up. Bad case of thread drift here, - apologies to the tram buffs ! One of my Grandads locals - a very ornate frontage for the back end of beyond! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gramps Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 One of my Grandads locals - a very ornate frontage for the back end of beyond! What's it called and where is the 'back of beyond' ? Gilmours owned pubs as far afield as Doncaster, Chesterfield and even Caistor in Lincs. Interesting your grandad's local had separate doors for the tap room and smoke-room/lounge so close together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunsbyowl1867 Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 What's it called and where is the 'back of beyond' ? Gilmours owned pubs as far afield as Doncaster, Chesterfield and even Caistor in Lincs. Interesting your grandad's local had separate doors for the tap room and smoke-room/lounge so close together. It is called the Sportsman. It's on a road parallel with the M1 I think it may be called Blackburn Road - my Grandad worked at Arthur Lees and live on Shiregreen - obviously far too tempting on the long walk home. It runs down from Wincobank to the old Grange Lane Irailway station below Lower Shiregreen. remember going in to 'retrieve' him one day back in the 1970's the rooms on the right had at least a couple of snooker tables in. We knew things were ove when he 'brought his cue home'. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveHB Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 It is called the Sportsman. It's on a road parallel with the M1 I think it may be called Blackburn Road - my Grandad worked at Arthur Lees and live on Shiregreen - obviously far too tempting on the long walk home. It runs down from Wincobank to the old Grange Lane Irailway station below Lower Shiregreen. remember going in to 'retrieve' him one day back in the 1970's the rooms on the right had at least a couple of snooker tables in. We knew things were ove when he 'brought his cue home'. Dunsbyowl, you forgot to mention the 'date stone' above the doors. 1919 ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunsbyowl1867 Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 Dunsbyowl, you forgot to mention the 'date stone' above the doors. 1919 Thanks Steve! Us men - never good at Multi - Tasking!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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