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  1. 107? Kent Road Heeley

    That's great. That gives me the story of the building even if it isn't what I thought it would be. I shall see if any stories through the newspapers too.
  2. 107? Kent Road Heeley

    Difficult to say. Can't find any particular place name nearby that would match.
  3. Anyone know the history of the House? It seems to have fairly substantial grounds and looks like the old woodland remains there a bit. I think the area would be Kent Storth which gave the road its name.  Its not far from the chapel and near Heeley Green.
  4. Kate Dover poisoner Highfield

    One witness said that after the Jones left (previous housekeeper) that a niece came and tried it for a  few months before she left and Kate Dover took over. 
  5. Trying to find where Miss Dover had her shop if possible. It says she had a shop on the London Road. Not sure what kind but possibly a dress shop. She was tried for poisoning her employer (after she left her shop) in February 1882. The crime happened on 6th Dec 1881. Evidence would seem to suggest she left the shop in June 1881. She lived with her parents in Thirwell Terrace, and Oak Street so would suppose shop was near there.   Also if anyone knows about her father Charles Dover wood carver. Wondered what pieces he would carve. Furniture perhaps?
  6. The demolition notice has gone up unfortunately. Can anyone take photos of the works and the demolition for record please? 
  7. W. GREAVES & CO

    They made a lot of glass fairly locally. Mostly in Rotherham. Not sure if there were glassworks in Sheffield. I know they made spectacles in Sheffield and other kinds of lens.  
  8. Sheffield Canal boatmen & stories?

    Also found this on my searches.
  9. Sheffield Canal boatmen & stories?

    Extract from Mexborough & Swinton Times Issue Saturday March 26th 1910 Groping his way along the canal bank at Swinton, a “Times” man, the other evening, stumbled upon the most interesting old couple it has been his good fortune to meet of late.  Their names are George Scholey and Elizabeth Scholey, and they live in a place called Kemp’s Yard, down by the water side.  As they have lived on and near the water the greatest part of their lives there is nothing strikingly peculiar about this.  George is 76 years old and his good lady will be eighty on Good Friday.  George, therefore is hopelessly the junior, and the missus calls him “my lad”. George Scholey was born at Bolton on Dearne into a water-side family, and at the age of a few weeks he was taken on board one of the canal boats plying between Sheffield and Goole.  He has been connected with the water ever since, and a fine fresh healthy life it is.  His wife was born at Bramham, a little village near Tadcaster, and she went into service at Sheffield, where she met George Scholey and married him 58 years ago, going to assist him in the management of his boat. There are hardships in the canal service if, as you lie on your back under the trees some warm, hazy summer afternoon, and watch the keels floating lazily down the water-way, you form the impression that the bargee’s life is the life for you, just put a question or two to George Scholey before you allow the impression to take root.  He will tell you that it is a constant round of tugging, loading, unloading, cleaning, and sleeping.  It is health, and the old men it produces are not old men before their time, because it is the fresh-air life, and whatever dissipation the boatman may go in for, is counteracted by the hard work he has to do.  George Scholey worked in a boat as soon as ever he had the strength to do anything useful at all.  At the age of nine his father set him to unload a boat along with a man.  That was at Lincoln, and it was a cargo of coals they were getting shut of, and he did his share. The benefits of education never came his way.  He simply had to work until he could work no longer.  He retired from the water last August, but to-day he can be seen pottering about the locks at Swinton, helping through captains who were toddling infants when he himself was a captain of ripe experience. And in return they gave him a bit of coal.  That is a great concession to George, for, as he explained to our man.  “You can’t get a deal of coal out of the Old Age Pension; it isn’t much to live on”. “So you do get the Pension?”  our man enquired.  “Oh, yes, we get five shillings each”.  “It’s a grand thing is the pension,” broke in the old lady.  “The man that brought it out ought to gain Heaven, I’m sure.  It’s saved lots of decent old folks from having to go to the Workhouse”. George Scholey is the last survivor of a large and well known canal boat family.  His brother, who kept the ferry at Mexbro’, died last year.  Mr. and Mrs. Scholey have also suffered bereavement in their own immediate family.  They have outlived eleven sons and daughters.  There are two daughters and a son remaining.  The son is a schoolmaster.  The father cannot read his own name.  At one time George Scholey was in fairly comfortable circumstances.  His wages as captain of a keel only amounted to a pound a week, but that was reckoned fairly good pay at the time, and by industry and perseverance, he acquired a boat of his own, which he called the “Industry”.  That was just about the time of his marriage.  But trade was not too good, and the Sheffield Flood settled his financial hash. It carried away the big bulk of his moveable property.  He was lying on the canal on the night of the Sheffield Flood, that night of horror in March of 1864.  Curiously enough Mr. Scholey never knew anything about the flood at all until it was over.  He slept peacefully through it all.  The canal lay well away from the track of the terrible torrent.  The first he knew of anything untoward was a rude awakening from a mate of his.  “Come, get up, George,” said the man.  “You’ll lie abed while all Sheffield’s flooded out”. George went and explored.  “I shall never forget the sight while ever I live,” he said. “It was fearful.  I saw dead bodies floating down the roads.  I saw dead bodies in the houses, just as they had been drowned.  It was terrible.  I did not stay very long, you can bet.  I came away with the vessel on the Monday morning”.  What food for gossip for the old cronies of the canal that Sheffield Flood must have been! Scholey has been principally engaged in carrying coal, though he can remember the time when there was no coal around this district to carry.  The first pit he remembers being sunk around here was Charlesworth’s Warren Vale pit, the coal for which is now drawn out of Thrybergh Hall pit, while the old Hemingfield pit started shortly after.  Prior to that he used to do a good trade in limestone from Sprotboro’ to Sheffield, and he carried an occasional cargo for old Mr. John Lewis of the Swinton Potteries, which was then a prosperous concern under that management.  He also used to “run” over to Elsecar for hard coals in the Potteries.  It was in this direction that the old man met with the only accident of his career at Aldham Mills near Wombwell.  He was jumping ashore when he caught the mooring rope with his foot, and, falling full length, broke his wrist and he stood the excruciating setting operation without a murmur.  Unfortunately the bone was not properly set, and resulted in the partial disablement of the old boatman.  For he was an old man at the time, the accident occurring during the time he was working for Mr. James Beevers, of Mexboro’, which was his last period of service. Mr. and Mrs. Scholey are, we believe, the oldest couple in Swinton.  They are an intelligent and happy pair, and are well content to spend the evening of their lives watching the boats go by.  Old George is neither a teetotaller nor a non smoker, and he has a grounds for thinking that his moderate indulgence in the luxuries of beer and bacca does him no harm.  An occasional gill of beer, a weekly ounce of tobacco – that is all.  But no doubt he would miss it if it were not there.
  10. Sheffield Canal boatmen & stories?

    My ancestors were boat people on the Liverpool Leeds canal. Two things I noticed with them was that some actually went off and joined the navy, and that families gradually found somewhere residential which I think was probably because of the education act & needing somewhere stable for the children to go to school.   
  11. Sheffield Canal boatmen & stories?

    From the newspapers they seemed to stay in canal basin in Tinsley or near by, when not travelling. No indication that they ever lived in Croft area. 
  12. Sheffield Canal boatmen & stories?

    Sorry so slow to reply but do please continue I found a newspaper article that these drawings were taken from courtesy of a friend. Originally in Sheffield Daily Telegraph March 1st 1889.
  13. . Fill in The Sheffield Plan consultation on   There has been some concern about exactly where heritage fits in with the consultation on the Sheffield Plan. It is restricted in what it asking for and that is because the council knows that what the government is interested in is economic results and more housing so its trying to fit in with that. I suggest you make reference to specific areas of Challenge and Opportunity in the Citywide Options for Growth in Consultation Questions 2a and b and 3a and b.    In 2.2 Stimulating Economic Growth and Job Creation: there is much talk about the Advanced Manufacturing Park, but heritage buildings including old industrial one provide better economic value for money. The Heritage Lottery Fund report New Ideas Need Old Buildings from 2013 shows that commercial businesses based in the historic buildings of our major cities are more productive and create more wealth than is the average for all commercial business across the whole economy. See the stats on page 33. In other words economic growth flourishes best in cities possessing a good stock of historic, distinctive buildings. In responding to the consultation we ought to mention the characterful nature of our historic sites as a major plus for business start-ups and for creating ‘distinctive leisure quarters of a city and an atmosphere that fosters creativity.’ There are plenty of examples and stats in here that we could use and Abbeydale Road, Crookes, Portland Works, Devonshire Green etc from inside the city.     On 2.4 its a fact that the greenest building is the one already built. See Timewalk project blogs  and Youtube    On 2.5 Promoting Health and Wellbeing - getting involved with heritage projects is known to be a MASSIVE boost to mental, physical and emotional health and wellbeing. Plus our surroundings are improved and that makes living in a city better for all.    On 2.6 digital start-ups love old buildings as they are generally cheaper and full of character - witness the £3.5 investment in the B&C Co-op as a digital hub. Lots more examples in   On 2.7 Retail Patterns there are lots of examples in   On 2.8 Making Sheffield a Fairer Place its obvious that a number of places in the city would be improved through heritage-led regeneration. I can think of the excellent housing stock slowly deteriorating in Darnall and Firth Park and the old industrial quarters such as round John Street and Neepsend that investment in would boost the area no end, plus the great work at Wincobank Flower estate and at Manor Lodge/green estate.    Its not all about growth either. Its about lifestyle and the quality of our living and working environment, the streetscape, buildings and landscape around us. That type of qualitative data is not specifically in there but could be part of the Consultation Questions 2b and 3b.   Note that you can fill it in as a business with heritage interests, as a heritage organisation or someone with an interest in the sector, or all three if you are all three.   Note also that there will be A City Policies and Sites Consultation July to September 2016.   My thanks to Brian Holmshaw for helping compile this guide.  
  14. Other than one small book of mainly photos I realise I have very little information on the building of the canal and the people who worked on it. Any songs or poems or stories? Any stories of the Navvies? Where did Navvies live? Any info will be gratefully received.   
  15. Good question. Have no real data but have hearsay from a number of projects who had similar aims and objectives to places elsewhere and they were turned down. Excuses given for turning down their applications are very inconsistent. I also have seen letter from Arts Council that said Sheffield lacked a structure and a strategy. I have heard from Major National funder (not Lottery) that Sheffield was deemed as "risky" because it lacked strategy. Many fairly successful projects in Sheffield would have been better if they had started with more substantial grant as it is many projects teeter on the brink all the time, lacking sufficient funding to put in a self-sustaining infrastructure, that is to generate enough income to keep buildings in good state of repair.