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  1. Other than one small book of mainly photos I realise I have very little information on the building of the canal and the people who worked on it. Any songs or poems or stories? Any stories of the Navvies? Where did Navvies live? Any info will be gratefully received.   
  2. Good question. Have no real data but have hearsay from a number of projects who had similar aims and objectives to places elsewhere and they were turned down. Excuses given for turning down their applications are very inconsistent. I also have seen letter from Arts Council that said Sheffield lacked a structure and a strategy. I have heard from Major National funder (not Lottery) that Sheffield was deemed as "risky" because it lacked strategy. Many fairly successful projects in Sheffield would have been better if they had started with more substantial grant as it is many projects teeter on the brink all the time, lacking sufficient funding to put in a self-sustaining infrastructure, that is to generate enough income to keep buildings in good state of repair.    
  3.  A few facts about Heritage and culture funding and old buildings. Central Government spending per head on culture in London was nearly fifteen times greater than in the rest of England in 2012/13 90% of grants from Department of Culture Media and Sport goes to London institutions. Industrial areas receive only 60% of national average re Lottery funding (20% drop in last 5 years) Over 20 years the average funding from Heritage Lottery funding for all projects  in Sheffield was around £3 million a year. This year Nottingham received £11.09 million for one project Leeds received over £8 million for 5 projects    It was estimated that 138,000 businesses were located in an historic building in 2011 providing 1.4 million jobs in the UK This represented 5% of all employment.  Overall, businesses based in historic buildings contributed over £47 billion in GVA in 2011. This is 3.5% of the UK total GVA Refurbishing an existing house gave off 15 tonnes of embodied C02 emissions compared to the 50 tonnes given off from a newly constructed building   Eating and drinking businesses are 79% more likely to be found in a listed building than in a non-listed. A listed building is three times more likely to be used as a fashion retail outlet than a non-listed building.  
  4. Slave Compensation Act, 1837

    This would back the  assertion that there was always strong anti-slavery feeling within Sheffield.  
  5. What it does, looking at other budgets, is prove to the Council that other cities despite the cuts are doing more. The excuse is always we haven't the money, but it doesn't take money to add a few more details to their website. Nor does it take money to have a councillor be lead person for tourism and Heritage, or write Heritage into their planning documents. They really don't think it is important. Yet if they looked at cities that put heritage at the front of their planning they would see their economy is on the up despite the present economic climate. I am talking to a lot of small businesses and traders that are set to lose their businesses due to Council's lack of understanding re old buildings and urban planning. The more you look at Heritage and economics the more frustrated you get with Sheffield Council. Sporting events are all very well but they are not permanent, nor are the Festivals regards employment either. You may get money coming into the economy but it isn't producing new permanent jobs. Nor will High Speed Rail produce all the jobs they claim. Does 20 minutes quicker journey really mean loads of Londoners will come up to Sheffield? Wouldn't we be better spending money on improving Sheffield's public transport system and better links to Manchester and Leeds?   Doncaster airport is no further away than Heathrow is from most of London. In fact it is quicker from Sheffield to Manchester airport than it is from a lot of places in London to Heathrow.  
  6. Problem with both Leeds and Sheffield is only seeing Heritage as cultural and not part of the economy of the city. When you start counting small businesses and even some larger companies that use older buildings in the city, you see it is more than just a load of old buildings, which Councils and the Government seem to think they are. There are several research papers that show old buildings are extremely important to the economy. Add the visitor attractions such as Lyceum, Manor Lodge, Abbeydale Hamlet and you start realising our whole economy is linked in with heritage and could also help bring in even more with a bit more imagination from the Council. Seems to me they are hell bent on shooting themselves in the foot while they are going for grandiose expensive schemes and demolishing the heart of the city.  Trouble is its also our foot they are shooting. Anyway have arranged a networking event at Union Street building. That's the one across from Howden House.   A lot of different people talk to me about why they feel heritage is important I thought it would be good to get them talking to each other face to face.   
  7. Yes please that would be helpful. I have by word of mouth the suggestion that Leeds is not getting the support from the Council they would like, but heresay is not as good as facts and figures. Manchester has had a strong heritage and culture climate since the 1970s but whether that is still the case I don't know. I have heard mixed reports from Birmingham. Until recently they had a very strong museum complex but have finally succumbed to cutbacks. There has been mutterings about changes in the city centre. Nottingham who had been doing badly despite their fame are now working hard on auditing their heritage buildings and have produced some glossy documents. Generally outside London funding is low. There is a small pot for a lot of Northern cities especially re Arts funding.
  8. There are indeed a lot of hoops prospective groups have to jump through to get funding. I had a friend who worked for a council who helped groups do just that. Many small groups just don't know where to start. Arts funding even for theatres and museums is quite small compared to other northern cities. Lyceum grant was unusual and they did also find alternative funding to match it. £1 million sounds a lot but is actually quite a small grant given the age and size of the building to be refurbished and the fact that government has added 20% VAT on to all work on listed and older buildings. I know of applications that were well presented though that were turned down because they were told they lacked "local support" and according to my source from one of the major funders that "local support" meant Council and they weren't talking financial. In Leeds where they apparently have had similar problems they have founded a citywide Civic Heritage trust which includes Indy traders, small businesses as well as all the community groups. This is something we could do too. It would give us a louder voice & help organisations looking for external funding.   
  9. I beg to differ about no funding was lost due to lack of interest. I have a copy of a letter that my MP gave to me from the Arts Council citing lack of structure and interest in Sheffield in Culture and Heritage as a reason to reduce funding. I also have had conversations with various funders who have told me as much. I have also had various conversations with various heritage groups that have told me the same thing. I can't site individual cases as that would be breach of confidentiality. It is a fact that Sheffield receives much lower levels in Heritage and Arts funding than other Northern Cities. If it was not for Sheffield University engagement and funding we would be much worse off. Tourism used to be funded by the regional development funds. When the government closed these down the budget for English tourism dropped to £1 million for whole of England. Both Scotland and Wales have several times larger budgets. It is now down to individual businesses advertising through Yorkshire Tourism. As vast majority of Sheffield's heritage attractions are on low budgets and often reliant on one off charitable funding they can't afford the cost of advertising. I have pointed out to the Council that simply listing attractions on their website as do other councils would help and would cost them nothing.
  10. John Harrison 1794

    Interesting, I shall have to do some background reading to find out about the incidents he was complaining about.
  11. Thanks Thylacine that really shows the House clearly. So surprising that someone didn't take a photo for the paper at a Garden party or similar.
  12. Around 1860s Joshua Tyzack either built or moved into Wood Lodge. Address seems to be either Abbey Lane or Abbeydale Road. Joshua built a chapel within the grounds of his house for non-conformists and Anglicans. The house was bought by the Ibbitsons in 1939 when Joshua Tyzack junior died and was still in their possession in 1950. I can't find where the buildings were or any photos or traces of them. Anyone help?  
  13. Rustlings Farm and Hunter House Farm

      Reference:   YWD 2284/1-3 Description: Agreement. Alfred Wilson of Westbrook, Sheffield, esquire, to Joseph Waterhouse Goodwin of Sheffield, estate agent. Land in Sheffield part of the Hunter House estate [fronting Psalter Lane from Hunter House Road to what is now the Roslyn Court Hotel] on building lease, confirming an agreement made by his late father Henry Wilson, but taking back into his own possession certain portions of the land, the necessary rents etc. being paid up. 20 May, 1886. Plan.   Copies of two agreements concerning individual plots, 1875 and 1885 Sign of one of the Snuff mills involvement but imagine that is when they were building houses up Hunter's House Road and possibly Sharrow Lane. Can't find my Mary Walton's history of Sharrow to see if she has any references.
  14. Rustlings Farm and Hunter House Farm

      Found this in archive catalogues    Title: Deed to bar the entail Reference: YWD 2128/2 Description: Jemima Nodder of Marsh Green in the parish of Ashover, the Rev. Joseph Nodder of the Rectory of Ashover, clerk, and Jane Nodder of Marsh Green, spinster, the children of John and Jemima Nodder, to John Charge of Chesterfield, Derbyshire esquire. Rustling Parks and the other lands in their mother's marriage settlement, in trust to uses, the entail thereby being barred Date: 11 May, 1841
  15. I am trying to untangle the two histories of these farms and the history of Endcliffe park. Its not helped by the fact that according to Trade directories & census records one man seemed to have farmed both. His name was William Roberts and was son in law to the Plant family who were in turn linked by marriage to Thomas Newbould who had a works at Lescar wheel. There is a suggestion that Newbould had Hunters House and Plant had Rustlings Farm. Certainly there is a mention of a Benjamin Plant renting off land adjoining land to Rustlings to a James Beal in 1802. James Beal is down in a trade directory in 1828 as being a scissor manufacturer at Rustling Park.  "Benjamin Plant, and his presumed brother John, had been awarded small allotments in the 1788 Ecclesall Act,  Benjamin’s allotment was only around 439 square yards but its location holds some interest. Its location is shown on a map in a book by Carolus Paulus and it appears in a later, more detailed 1850 map to be near a few trees called ‘Rustling Place’ where a track led from Greystones Road about 500 yards northwards to ‘Rustling Farm’ past a few buildings called the ‘Rustlings’" Rustlings Farm seems to be also called Rustling Park.  Robert Younge of Greystones appears to have bought the land adjoining Rustlings Farm ie the woodland which he later sold to city for £5'232 in 1885. Part of Rustlings Farm was already the Tennis club as it was founded in 1883. Rustlings Farm was bought in 1887 as an extention to Endcliffe Park (Hence the jubilee stone near the Tennis Court.) Earliest documentary reference I can get to Rustlings Farm is when called Rustling Parke in 1738 when the heir of John Stone formerly of little Sheffield sold the land to George Marriot cutler and Christopher Cowley.      "whereby certain closes called Rustling Parkes, containing 5a 2r 32phs, situate in Ecclesall, between Porter Water northwards and a certain common or waste called Brencliffe Edge Common southwards ; formerly  divided into four or five parts, with a cottage built thereon, then long since demolished ; which premises were then late in the occupation of Henry Young, and were then in the possession of the said Abell (sic) Heurtelen and Dinah or their tenant Jonathan Woollen ; which closes were formerly the estate and inheritance of John Stones late of Little Sheffield in the parish of Sheffield deceased, great uncle of the above said John Stones deceased, father of the said Dinah, and were given and devised, by the will of the said John Stones the uncle, unto the said John Stones his nephew, the said father of the said Dinah ; were released unto the said George Marriott his heirs and assigns for ever. Witnesses : Jno Greaves, Isaac Nodder" I seem unable to get back earlier or any detail of neighbouring Hunter's House Farm. I know there is remains of quarrying behind Hunters's house and Hunter's house is said to be built in 1700 with earlier history than that but the only reference I have found is in 1880 a Thomas Daniel has lost a pig in Endcliffe woods and says he is from Hunters Farm.   So any more info on origins of Hunters House and Rustlings Farm? Any earlier references maps you know of?