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  1. P.S.Wainwright's drapery store at 491-495 London Road had a Fire Salvage Sale starting on 9th January 1892. In March 1893 the lease on their premises in Broad Street expired ( they had been there for 40 years). Possibly due to these premises problems they had the shop at 30 London Road built? In February 1893 they advertised "HOSIERY - Wanted about March 1st, good WINDOW DRESSER and SALESMAN; also Assistant for the Manchester. P.S.Wainwright London road and Broad street"
  2. Was this the man? HARRISON Henry, of Rivelin-Lodge Sheffield, yeoman, died 9 January 1899 Probate WAKEFIELD 29 June to Matilda Harrison widow Effects £2768 17s 10d. (The full will is available at a cost of £10) If it was the correct HH, then he obviously didn't lose all his wealth, just a few bob.
  3. Sheffield Archive have a Deed to make a tenant (lease and release) document ref OD/29,3 dated 1-2 Nov 1785: “John Bagshawe of Oakes, third son of Richard Bagshaw late of Oakes, deceased, to Francis Gregg of Skinners Hall, London. Messuages, etc., in Norton, the Herdings Farm and other property in Norton and Dronfield. To suffer a recovery in favour of John Lingard, yeoman, of Astley, parish of Leigh, co. Lancaster.” Also documents OD/28, 704, 705, 706 dated 5-6 Dec 1732 which includes a prenuptial settlement (lease and release and counterpart):“Richard Bagshaw the elder of Castleton, esquire and Richard Bagshaw the younger his eldest son and heir, to John Simpson of Stoke (co. Derby), clerk, and William Drake of Cotes (Yorks.), esquire. In consideration of the marriage to be had between Richard Bagshaw the younger and Mary Simpson of Renishaw, spinster and £2,500 her dowry; all the messuages, lands etc., in Norton, lately purchased by Richard Bagshaw the elder from Thomas Stones of Mosbrough, esquire, the messuage called Herdings farm in the occupation of Robert and Thomas Bagshaw (except certain timber rights), a third part of messuages and lands in Norton and Dronfield lately purchased of Thomas Bagshaw of Middleton by Wirksworth and formerly the inheritance of Samuel Wood, and all their property in Tideswell, to certain uses: from the date of the intended marriage to the use of Richard Bagshaw the younger, and a rent charge of £200 to Mary if she survive her husband; and other stated uses.” In 1843 the furniture and farming stock of the farm was being sold: In the Independent dated 28th November 1846 there was a report that “ a valuable ewe-sheep, the property of Mr Thos. Staniforth of the Herdings Farm, Norton, was feloniously slaughtered in a field in the owner’s occupation adjoining Swing Lee wood”, Mr Staniforth offered a £10 reward for apprehension of the vagabonds. In 1851 the census showed both Thomas Staniforth and Thomas Oldfield Hazard as farming at Herdings. At the 1861 census collection the following were farming at Herdings Farm: Thomas Staniforth aged 56 farming 170 acres also Thomas Hazard aged 76 farming 55 acres and employing 2 men and a boy. At the 1871 census Hazard and Staniforth were still at the farm. By 1881 Elijah Wragg had replaced Staniforth, but Mr Hazard was still there, the arrangement was still in place in 1891. Wragg had been farming in the area for many years.In 1901 Wragg was farming at The Herdings with a host of support workers and a miner Rufus Rhodes, Thomas Staniforth now retired and just lodging. By 1905 Joseph Rhodes was list in Whites Directory as co-farming with Wragg (now 86 years of age). In 1911 Joseph Rhodes was farming at The Herdings, together with Agnes Marsh (farmers wife). In 1896 Elijah Wragg was retiring from farming and the following advertisement was placed, presumably he changed his mind and continued:
  4. On 1st September 1896 following the decease of landlord M.G Burgoyne, Messrs Nicholson, Greaves, Barber and Hastings sold the "fully-licensed public-house 'The Old Crown Inn' 710 Penistone Road, with the shoeing forge and yard attached" for £32,000" at the Cutlers Hall. The current building doesn't look much like a forge. In March 1901 the council bought part of the Old Crown from Henry Tomlinson Ltd (Anchor Brewery) for road widening, perhaps that was was the forge area? The main footprint of the building(s) appears unchanged since 1854 though the bay fronted section is later.
  5. Sheffield Local Studies Library, Surrey Street have a copy, ref 331.8 SQ. If you're not local, give them a ring they may be able to help with a copy (tel 0114 2734753)
  6. So where was the Birley Wheel relative to the Phoenix Works, presumably they took work there for grinding?
  7. Just out of devilment... heres an extract from Taylers map of 1832:
  8. I hope this series of maps help. In 1823 Radford Place doesn't exist, but it shows the steep bank which it will ascend. The 1838 map shows Radford Place and the layout of the houses at the top of the bank in the gardens. The "To Let" advert from 1857 gives details of a house next door to Radford House, being let by William Hancock - one of yours? - if so that may pinpoint it. There was a William Hancock 2 years younger than your Thomas, possibly a brother?, living at Daisy Bank in 1851 1823 1838 1890 To Let 1857
  9. Yes!! I think No 16 is just the other side of the archway, behind the car
  10. Try here: http://www.picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;u03925&pos=2&action=zoom edited - Link doesn't seem to work, Ref No for the photo is u03925, use google and search on picturesheffield u03925
  11. Picture/thousand words etc - is this the place? http://www.picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;u01628&pos=2&action=zoom&id=36971 The Crossbeats (Bootle Christian pop group) played at the Mustard Seed on Saturday 25th June 1966, as a follow up to the Billy Graham crusade, and then at least another eight times. But the first gig was at a previous version of the Mustard Seed at the ex-Athol Hotel (later to become Sexy Rexy's) on Charles Street. They were booked by Brian Hollocks, who attached an explanatory note to the following website: http://www.crossbeats.co.uk/y68mustard.htm
  12. Here's a link to a Photo of No 84 Langsett Road (right hand side, 5th property back from the corner, with upper floor sign), opposite the Methodist Church http://www.picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?action=zoomWindow&keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;s17580&prevUrl=
  13. Thomas Leslie was baptised by his own father at the chapel in the Barracks. He was baptised by his father again in August 1864 at the Sheffield Parish church (now cathedral) (see baptism records below) The parish of St John the Baptist, Owlerton, was formed out of St Philip's (Infirmary Road, Sheffield) and became a separate parish in 1876 The Sheffield Barracks on Langsett Road, Hillsborough, fell within the parish, hence their records include a register of baptisms performed in the Military Chapel of the barracks. Both this Military Chapel register and the general series of registers for St John include entries for soldiers and their families. The church of St John the Baptist, Owlerton, is situated on Penistone Road and is in the Deanery of Hallam. From Wikipedia’s entry on the Barracks: “There was also a Fives Court, a Riding School, a school for 80 children and accommodation for the schoolmistress, married quarters flats for 50 families provided outside the walls…” So where Thomas Leslie went to school relies on when the family left Sheffield – if still there when he was school age he probably attended the Barracks school. However his father did appear to move around as would be expected, but his mother may have remained in Sheffield? In June 1870 Milward was promoted from Chaplain 3rd class to Chaplain 2nd class. In June 1874 “His Excellency the Duke of Abercorn has been pleased to appoint the Rev. Milward Crooke M.A., Senior Chaplain to the Forces in Ireland, one of his Excellency’s Chaplains”. As at August 1878 Milward was Chaplian 1st Class, based in Cork. Rev Milward Crooke was placed on retired pay on 23rd June 1887. His retired pay record (from 1st Lancers Regiment, administered by the Royal Hospital Chelsea is below: His probate record is next to that of his son also named Milward, somewhat tragically for his wife Emily. The death notice of one of Thomas’s brother’s sheds a little light – Milward served in the Crimea. He was in the Eastern Campaign, serving in 1854-55, was present at the siege of Sebastopol, and was awarded a Medal with clasp and the Turkish Medal.
  14. Hope this helps: At St Silas church on 28th January 1911 Leonard Lawrence Lobb aged 22 and living at 7 Aberdeen Street, the son of Henry (“Harry”) Richard Lobb, married Nellie Ryalls aged 21, of 20 Egerton Street, daughter of James Ryalls. When they completed the 1911 census they were living at the Aberdeen Street address (3 rooms) and Leonard was a warehouseman and packer of engineers tools. At the 1901 census Harry Lobb (42, Iron turner born in Manchester) and his wife Jane (35, a Sheffield lass), were living at 12 house 2 Egerton Street with their offspring Harry junior (16 also an Iron Turner born in Manchester), Albert (14 an errand boy, though girl is written), Leonard (12), John (7),and Fred (4). In the 3rd quarter of 1907 Leonard’s younger brother Albert Edwin Lobb (dob 26th July 1886) married Edith Ryalls, and in 1939 he was a knife packer living with Edith at 35 Wath Road. Albert Edwin died aged 78 at Winter Street Hospital and was buried on 4th January 1965, in the same grave as his brother Leonard. The grave was used for Albert's wife Edith, who died at the Royal. aged 88 and was buried on 18th February 1976. On 8th February 1916 at the Sheffield Munitions Tribunal "Henry Richard Lobb, 51 Crookesmoor Road, a machinist, lost 298 1/2 hours while employed at Hadfields. Defendant said he had been ill, and had sent in several doctor's certificates. His foreman denied receiving any certificates. Sir William Clegg said it was a very bad case, and imposed a penalty of £3" Leonard Lobb, a grocer, died aged 37 and was buried on 5th August 1926 at Abbey Lane. His widow Nellie Lobb (dob 27 May 1889) was re-married to Ted Davy (dob 1 Nov 1888), in the 1st quarter of 1929. Ten years later they were living at 7 Sheldon Lane, Stannington. Ted worked as a motor engineer. Ronald Lobb ("mother maiden name Ryalls") was born in the 2nd quarter of 1920 in Sheffield. His brother Lawrence was born on 8th September 1912 and baptised at the Sheffield Parish church on the 22nd, the family were living at 30 Allerton Road and his father Leonard was a warehouseman. Lawrence married Gladys M Crownshaw in 1934. Ronald's sister Nellie was born in the 3rd quarter of 1915, and married Cyril Crownshall on 2nd March 1935 at St Philips. A Ronald Lobb joined the Royal Artillery in 1937 (service number 876571) though it's not certain that this was the Ronald we are discussing - however he is not found on the 1939 census so could well have been on military duty. A Ronald Lobb married Edith Harrison in Sheffield in the 2nd quarter of 1945. A Henry R Lobb married Alice Longley in Sheffield in the 2nd quarter of 1934. On 5th April 1939 Mr & Mrs Ronald Lobb atttended the funeral of John Robert Watts, governing director of John Watts cutlery manufacturers, at Fulwood church. They were listed as family mourners, John Watts died aged 80 at 8 Oakholme Road.