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  1. Hope this helps: At St Silas church on 28th January 1911 Leonard Lawrence Lobb aged 22 and living at 7 Aberdeen Street, the son of Henry (“Harry”) Richard Lobb, married Nellie Ryalls aged 21, of 20 Egerton Street, daughter of James Ryalls. When they completed the 1911 census they were living at the Aberdeen Street address (3 rooms) and Leonard was a warehouseman and packer of engineers tools. At the 1901 census Harry Lobb (42, Iron turner born in Manchester) and his wife Jane (35, a Sheffield lass), were living at 12 house 2 Egerton Street with their offspring Harry junior (16 also an Iron Turner born in Manchester), Albert (14 an errand boy, though girl is written), Leonard (12), John (7),and Fred (4). In the 3rd quarter of 1907 Leonard’s younger brother Albert Edwin Lobb (dob 26th July 1886) married Edith Ryalls, and in 1939 he was a knife packer living with Edith at 35 Wath Road. Albert Edwin died aged 78 at Winter Street Hospital and was buried on 4th January 1965, in the same grave as his brother Leonard. The grave was used for Albert's wife Edith, who died at the Royal. aged 88 and was buried on 18th February 1976. On 8th February 1916 at the Sheffield Munitions Tribunal "Henry Richard Lobb, 51 Crookesmoor Road, a machinist, lost 298 1/2 hours while employed at Hadfields. Defendant said he had been ill, and had sent in several doctor's certificates. His foreman denied receiving any certificates. Sir William Clegg said it was a very bad case, and imposed a penalty of £3" Leonard Lobb, a grocer, died aged 37 and was buried on 5th August 1926 at Abbey Lane. His widow Nellie Lobb (dob 27 May 1889) was re-married to Ted Davy (dob 1 Nov 1888), in the 1st quarter of 1929. Ten years later they were living at 7 Sheldon Lane, Stannington. Ted worked as a motor engineer. Ronald Lobb ("mother maiden name Ryalls") was born in the 2nd quarter of 1920 in Sheffield. His brother Lawrence was born on 8th September 1912 and baptised at the Sheffield Parish church on the 22nd, the family were living at 30 Allerton Road and his father Leonard was a warehouseman. Lawrence married Gladys M Crownshaw in 1934. Ronald's sister Nellie was born in the 3rd quarter of 1915, and married Cyril Crownshall on 2nd March 1935 at St Philips. A Ronald Lobb joined the Royal Artillery in 1937 (service number 876571) though it's not certain that this was the Ronald we are discussing - however he is not found on the 1939 census so could well have been on military duty. A Ronald Lobb married Edith Harrison in Sheffield in the 2nd quarter of 1945. A Henry R Lobb married Alice Longley in Sheffield in the 2nd quarter of 1934. On 5th April 1939 Mr & Mrs Ronald Lobb atttended the funeral of John Robert Watts, governing director of John Watts cutlery manufacturers, at Fulwood church. They were listed as family mourners, John Watts died aged 80 at 8 Oakholme Road.
  2. I'd suggest you contact the Royal Humane Society and ask them for details of his award. Contact details are: http://www.royalhumanesociety.org.uk/html/research_request.html
  3. After an outbreak of scarlet fever in Crookes in 1887 the Council decided that the existing arrangements for disinfecting clothing, bedding etc were inadequate (a hospital porter did it). A contract was awarded in 1888 to build a disinfecting station at Plum lane.
  4. The Finance of Manufacturing Industry in the Sheffield Area c 1850 - 1885 Here is a link to a thesis submitted for the degree of Doctor of Philosophy by Lucy Newton of the Department of Economic and Social History, University of Leicester September 1993 in pdf format. From the introduction: “A study concerning industrial finance and business structure in Sheffield is of importance because of very particular local developments from the mid-nineteenth century. Between 1850 and 1880 an almost uniquely large number of companies emerged, financed and organised locally through the adoption of limited liability in the city, contrary to the general national pattern.” The thesis is naturally very academic, but it does include very detailed information in case studies about firms such as Yorkshire Engine, Samuel Fox, Steel, Peech and Tozer and the large steel firms generally.
  5. Up for debate: At 1m27s H.G Williams, Chemist 118 South Street Moor At 4m04s Great Northern Railway Booking Office 58 Fargate At 5m21s Sheffield Goldsmith 11 Fargate
  6. In August 1834, the death of John, 19 years old, the youngest son of Thomas Mottram, merchant of Arundel street, was reported. In February 1844, six dozen "half-thick three-inch spear pocket knives, the property of Mr Mottram, Arundel-street, were stolen from Turner's Wheel". In April 1858, a meeting of the creditors of Messrs. Mottram, Taylor and Co. was held at the warehouse of the firm in Arundel Street. Their balance sheet showed liabilities of £8,200 and it was expected that after paying £4,200 of the secured debts (mortgages etc) that between 10s and 12s 6d in the pound would be paid to the smaller creditors. In the year up to 1846 the firm had turned over upwards of £100,000 a year, but the failure of the Sheffield and Retford Bank that year had affected their credit, and trade had continued to diminish. In May 1861 the Burton Brewery Company Limited were using 92 Arundel Street as a temporary office and stores. In January 1885 the Sheffield Trade Board were based at 92 Arundel Street, Mr Uttley being Secretary. In October 1909 patent SYP (Simple Yet Perfect) Teapots ("giving perfect control over the infusion of the Tea") were being sold wholesale from 92 Arundel Street. In 1911 scrap trader Ernest Horton, working from 92 Arundel Street was in court, charged with receiving 34lb of stolen German silver fork blanks. The case was not proven. In June 1919 Harry James Allen, a cutler trading as Janes Allen & Co , at 92 Arundel Street since 1906, was fined 40s, for having knives with a false trade description for sale, They were made with a fake rivetted head, which made them appear to have a through tang. In September 1936 the Chief Registrar of Friendly Societies struck off the Arundel Social Club, based at 92 Arundel Street, as they had failed to submit their annual return for 1935. In March 1950 Harry Richardson "the REAL TYRE MAN for REAL TYRE SERVICE" was based there. (tel 26092) In 2010 a planning application was made to convert the building to student apartments with cafe.
  7. Here's a map from 1890, not the best resolution , but shows Court 6 backing towards Granville Lane
  8. Have you seen the photos on picturesheffield.com? There are 4 of them - the nearest house to 71 shown is 67 Thistle Street.
  9. The "Little Mesters Shop" photographed is on Eldon Street (no through section), but the sign has now been removed. Cutlers Hall is relevant, but maybe a bit too grand. John Watts works on Lambert Street is very photogenic.
  10. I presume for Wandsworth read Handsworth? The Sheffield Archives and the Local Studies Library have copies of "Sheffield Trades and Labour Council 1858 - 1958" (published 1958 ref MEN/LOCAL) which Google only shows a brief extract:
  11. From Wikipedia - there's much more if you want to delve: Boards of Guardians were created by the Poor Law Amendment Act 1834, replacing the parish Overseers of the Poor established under the old poor law, following the recommendations of the Poor Law Commission. Boards administered workhouses
  12. Bad news I'm afraid. The Liberals just pipped the Conservatives, and Mr O'Brien was some way behind. He did however stand in the Guardians Elections the following March
  13. Here's a link to a free ebook - The Songs of Joseph Mather, published in 1862. Mather died in 1804 and the book includes a biography of the man and many of his songs which are often based on historical events in Sheffield, such as the Norfolk Street Riot. There are explanatory notes for the songs, giving details of what the basis was. The Songs of Joseph Mather 1862 An example is his song "The Black Resurrection" about the widening of Church Lane in 1785 which took part of the graveyard and diisturbed many graves - the song being sung from the point of view of an occupant of one of the graves, and refers to Vicar Wilkinson, who agreed to the encroachment, as the "old serpent" I lived for a series of years Not far from the toll of the bell, My house they pull'd over my ears And I was consign'd to my cell. Before my remains were dissolved The BLACK RESURRECTION took place My troubles upon me revolved Much to the old serpent's disgrace. etc
  14. I can't explain why the search facility doesn't find him, but here's his entry for the DCM in the Edinburgh Gazette. You'll find it by selecting the date and page.
  15. Back in the good old days, the links to pubs and maps were excellent, but they've all been trashed now, though the data is still there. The site search facility has never been very good, so use google with "sheffield history" as the first search term. The link to the page with the Horse and Jockey on is below. http://www.sheffieldhistory.co.uk/forums/index.php?/topic/3530-pubs-f-to-m-keepers-picture-links/&page=16 In January 1861 Vickers was the successful defendant in a forged £10 case (Dr Flory of Myrtle road was the plaintiff). Flory tried for a retrial in February but was turned down. In July 1861, Vickers' gig was in an accident at the juction of High street and Market street. Vickers was a Hay Dealer &c. He ran into the carriage of Mrs Jeffcock and her daughter, on their way to Castle street. One of the injured carriage horses was taken to the Angel Inn stables and attended by a vet, At the Brewster Sessions in August 1864, it was stated that in July Vickers had been fined 40s for a brutal attack on a boy (Henry Heathcote), who he claimed had attacked his own son, and that Vickers had "threatened and annoyed" Councillor Staniforth who was one of the witnesses against him. Vickers denied misconduct, but did apologise and on the intervention of Cllr. Staniforth his licence was renewed with a caution. Vickers died in the second quarter of 1865. His wife Elizabeth continued at the Horse and Jockey and was fined in November 1865 for short measures. In May 1866 there was an auction sale of Horses, Drays and Gearing connected with the Hay Trade, on the instructions of the trustees of the late Mr Vickers, his widow having given up the trade and sold the stock.