Biggin / Brammer / Haywood Line

[Guest biggij]

Hi all,

Have been reading through the posts, and must say I have been very impressed by the knowldege and detail, hence my maiden post for help!!.

I am attempting to research the Biggin (Norton) and Brammer (Sheffield) connections.

There is an Elizabeth Brammer, born c 1791 in Sheffield, who married a Henry Biggin b c 1786 in Norton, Yorkshire. They were married on 14 August 1808 at Rotherham, Yorkshire, and I believe they

had just the 6 children, but I believe there may be more.

Mary b 11 05 1809 bapt 04 06 1809 Cathedral of St Peter, Sheffield

Thomas b 07 06 1811 bapt 12 07 1811 " " m Ellenora Haywood (f John Haywood, m Ellizabeth ? ) (In Norton, on 14 May 1787 John Haywood, of Sheffield, married Elizabeth Biggin, lic?)

Anne b 13 03 1814

Elizabeth b 09 08 1816

Aaron b 15 06 1828

Isaac b 15 06 1828

Thomas is my direct line, and he emigrated to Australia in 1852 after marrying Ellenora Haywood in Rotherham in 18 Dec 1833. I have not yet traced Henry 's siblings (or Thomas' for that matter) or to trace back further than Henry.

The below link provides the details on the family once they arrived in Australia. The website may be of general interest to some members as it traces many of the founding families who migrated to Victoria from UK/Ire.

http://www.ballaratgenealogy.org.au/digby/family/biggin.htm

From reading through some of the census records, I believe I have located the family in 1851 - Henry is a cutler living at 20 Crop Lane in Eccles Bierlow with wife and youngest son Isaac. I haven't been able to locate Henry in the 1841 census. By 1871, Isaac was listed as a spring-knife cutler, with his 14 year old son, Albert. following the trade, living at 29 Brown? Square, St George, Sheffield.

In 1841, Thomas Biggin was living in Coal Aston with family as a farmer. I can not locate him in the 1851 census. He migrated to Australia in 1852.

Specific Questions

Anyone else researching the Biggin line?

Anyone else researching Brammer / Haywood lines and any crossover?

How do I find out if Henry had more than the 6 children. In 1851 census, there was another Biggin family living behind Henry (rear of property) on parish relief. (Henry Biggin aged 33, Elizabeth, 34, E Hy, aged 7, Ann B, aged 6). If not his son, how could I determine his relationship to Henry?

General questions

In the early and mid 1800's what was the differences in obtaining qualification in trades and the status levels between the trades - cutler (and different types) / scythesmiths. Oral history was that Thomas migrated due to the constant pressure (from the wife's family) for Ellenora marrying beneath her rank?

If you live in Norton, what Premier League team should you be supporting?

Any help much appreciated.

[Guest Elizabeth Spies]

They had a another boy named Henry b 1818 d 1855

[Meersbrook]

There are about 130 Biggin people buried in Norton Cemetery, Derbyshire Ln, Norton Woodseats.

Info from sheffieldindexers.com