Guest bus man Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 Apologies for those of you who were expecting to see a B1 unfortunatley this was today the name plate is however a replica of the origional but with out the raised football . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bus man Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 Both these links are from the sheffield wednesday website History of origional loco http://www.swfc.co.uk/page/News/0,,10304~1793484,00.html Press Release for naming http://www.swfc.co.uk/page/News/0,,10304~1793483,00.html Intrestingly this was on the website before the afternoon tour took place ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveH Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 Apologies for those of you who were expecting to see a B1 unfortunatley this was today the name plate is however a replica of the origional but with out the raised football . When it was on the local news about this it said that the "Sheffield Wednesday" was only the second locomotive in the rail network to be named after a football team, but they never said what the other one (the first locomotive named after a football team) was. I know from my interest in traction engines that there is crane engine in the west midlands called the "Wolverhampton Wanderer" which is a good name for an engine but I can't think what they other rail loco would be,- the "Arsenal"? the "Accrington Stanley"? the "Everton"? the "Manchester United"? the "West Ham"? they all sound rubbish as names of a loco, not as good as the "Sheffield Wednesday" Anyone know what the other one is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart0742 Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 When it was on the local news about this it said that the "Sheffield Wednesday" was only the second locomotive in the rail network to be named after a football team, but they never said what the other one (the first locomotive named after a football team) was. I know from my interest in traction engines that there is crane engine in the west midlands called the "Wolverhampton Wanderer" which is a good name for an engine but I can't think what they other rail loco would be,- the "Arsenal"? the "Accrington Stanley"? the "Everton"? the "Manchester United"? the "West Ham"? they all sound rubbish as names of a loco, not as good as the "Sheffield Wednesday" Anyone know what the other one is? I believe it is Sunderland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveH Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 I believe it is Sunderland SUNDERLAND!!! A train called the Sunderland sounds more rubbish than some of my suggestions in my previous post, - even the Arsenal sounds better. Oh Well, I'm sure RichardB and a lot of north eastern Geordie types who support Sunderland FC will think its a brilliant name for a train. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart0742 Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 SUNDERLAND!!! A train called the Sunderland sounds more rubbish than some of my suggestions in my previous post, - even the Arsenal sounds better. Oh Well, I'm sure RichardB and a lot of north eastern Geordie types who support Sunderland FC will think its a brilliant name for a train. 10/08/09 I believe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveH Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 10/08/09 I believe Sunderland it is then! Followed by Sheffield Wednesday Which football team will be next to have its name on a train? { I've already given my suggestions, but this is clearly the "in thing" at the moment with football and trains} Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart0742 Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 Sunderland it is then! Followed by Sheffield Wednesday Which football team will be next to have its name on a train? { I've already given my suggestions, but this is clearly the "in thing" at the moment with football and trains} If they keep to the original list it could be:- Arsenal, Barnsley, Bradford, Bradford City, Darlington, Derby County, Doncaster Rovers, Everton, Grimsby Town, Huddersfield Town, Hull City, Leeds United, Leicester City, Liverpool, Manchester City, Manchester City, Manchester United, Middlesbrough, Newcastle United, Norwich City, Nottingham Forest, Sheffield United, Sheffield Wednesday, Sunderland, Tottenham Hotspur, West Ham United This was the original List Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveH Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 If they keep to the original list it could be:- Arsenal, Barnsley, Bradford, Bradford City, Darlington, Derby County, Doncaster Rovers, Everton, Grimsby Town, Huddersfield Town, Hull City, Leeds United, Leicester City, Liverpool, Manchester City, Manchester City, Manchester United, Middlesbrough, Newcastle United, Norwich City, Nottingham Forest, Sheffield United, Sheffield Wednesday, Sunderland, Tottenham Hotspur, West Ham United This was the original List I had most of those in my suggestions list including Arsenal, Everton, Manchester United and West Ham I'm a bit dissapointed that there's no "Accrington Stanley" though :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest transit Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 ....so it just begs the question - when is the Blades one being "adorned" ?.... :unsure: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveH Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 ....so it just begs the question - when is the Blades one being "adorned" ?.... Good question transit, - I had noticed that Sheffield United were on Stuarts list of chosen teams but the list is in alphabetical order rather than the order in which the trains are going to be rolled out after them. So a better list would be Sunderland (10/8/09), Sheffield Wednesday (11/9/09), ? (?/?/??), ???????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgmetcalf Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 It's on a GBRF shed (Class 66 loco) Not seen it yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bloodknock Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 It may have been posted previously, please forgive me if so. Does anyone identify the station by any chance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bloodknock Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 LNER Class B17 Power type Steam Build date 1928-1937 Configuration 4-6-0 Gauge 4' 8½" Driver diameter 6' 8" Locomotive weight 77 Tons 5 cwt to 80 tons 10 cwt Fuel type coal Boiler pressure B17/1 to B17/5: 180 psi B17/6: 225 psi Cylinders three Cylinder size 17½" x 26" Tractive effort B17/1 to B17/5: 22,485 lbf B17/6: 28,555 lbf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart0742 Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 It may have been posted previously, please forgive me if so. Does anyone identify the station by any chance? Hi Bloodknock, welcome to the site. There was a previous topic about a modern Class 66 named Sheffield Wednesday, I have merged the 2 together. As to the station, it could be the eastern end of Sheffield Victoria, unfortunately I have little memory of that station, sure somebody will know. On 2nd look I am not sure at all about it being Victoria, no wires Never the less a great photo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hilldweller Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 Hi Bloodknock, welcome to the site. There was a previous topic about a modern Class 66 named Sheffield Wednesday, I have merged the 2 together. As to the station, it could be the eastern end of Sheffield Victoria, unfortunately I have little memory of that station, sure somebody will know. On 2nd look I am not sure at all about it being Victoria, no wires Never the less a great photo I'm not a transport expert at all ( I'm not any sort of expert ) but I did do a lot of trainspotting in the late 50's, early 60's, and it looks very like the Victoria to me. British Railways came into being in 1948 and the electrification into Victoria wasn't completed until 1954, I watched the gantries going up. My guess is that the photo was taken some time between these dates. hilldweller P S Looking again at the B R ensignia I would take a guess at very early in the period because the words are spaced apart but there's no sign of the "ferret & dartboard" in the gap between. Perhaps they'd convened a committee to decide what to paint in the gap ? HD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 This kind of comment would raise a few eyebrows/fists up here. Geordie = Toon Makem = Sunderland inbetween the two are The Sanddancers of South Shields. ... north eastern Geordie types who support Sunderland FC ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unitedite Returns Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Hi, I believe that the LNER B17 locomotives were generally named after FA Cup winning teams, which is why so many, of what are now, lower league football clubs are listed. I believe that when these locomotives were consigned to the cutter's tourch, that each football club represented was presented with one of the two name plates. I think that the second plates went into the National Collection, where perhaps they reside still. Can anyone clarify? I also think that most of the original name plates still remain in the possession of their respective football clubs. Sheffield United retain their's and it originally resided in the Board Room until relocated in the tunnel down to the pitch. West Ham United retain theirs and the last time that I saw it, it was mounted within the main reception area. The most commonly seen name plate however, although most people do not realise it, is the one that is held in the possession of Norwich City, where it sits, pitchside, over the tunnel entrance and therefore, can be clearly seen during televised games, when the teams enter and leave the playing field. Incidentally, I think that these B17 locomotives were designated as the "Sandringham" Class and I also seem to recall that a few were stream lined, for a short time, in the fashion of the more famously known A4 Class of locomotives, [when they were classified B17/4], although I do not know as to whether any of the football engines were ever so endowed. But, I am sure that someone on here will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madannie77 Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Probably everything most people would need to know about the B17s can be found on the LNER Encyclopaedia. Two were streamlined, numbers 2859 and 2870: these were classified as B17/5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunsbyowl1867 Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 This nameplate is at Hillsborough! (November 2012) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RichardT Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 It may have been posted previously, please forgive me if so. Does anyone identify the station by any chance?No 61661 Sheffield Wednesday.jpg Liverpool Street I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickjj Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Just to clear things up the "Footballer Class" B17's were named after football clubs that were on the LNER line not for winning any competition. When each engine was taken out of service each club was give one of the nameplates, as already stated some are on prominent display but it would be interesting to know where they all are. I do happen to know that Huddersfield is in storage at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart0742 Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athy Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Hilldweller, this was the first style of BR tender markings, circa 1948 to 1950. When the coat of arms was introduced, I think they removed the large British Railways lettering from tenders and tank sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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